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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
yeah none of those guys are with the team
- dmnted

And they’re all tried, proven, busts.


You guys for some reason think it’ll make any difference tinkering around the edges, when what they really need is to make a massive splash on defence. Get a superstar d man. Why not? I’d rather have Makar over anyone not named McDavid at this time. That’s what they need. Since Dubas is an idiot the Leafs haven’t tried to grab a Dman in the draft. Ghule and Scheider left on the board 🤢

Use Nylander and whoever else to get a legit #1RHD
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
Arden on the latest ATL suggesting that the Blue Jays player development complex could give them a bit of a competitive advantage during the recruitment process given Ohtani's obsession with health & fitness



Not sure who Arden is but sweet.


The best part about these tweets are the big market USA teams fans tweeting back at them saying it will never happen.

If Ohtani signs here I’m going to spend a good 22 mins reading Yankee/dodger/Redsocks fans heads exploding.

It would be like CGY fans and a lot of Canadian fanbases reacting to Gaudreau going to CBJ but 100X better.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 30 @ 1:08 PM ET
Arden on the latest ATL suggesting that the Blue Jays player development complex could give them a bit of a competitive advantage during the recruitment process given Ohtani's obsession with health & fitness



Not sure who Arden is but sweet.


The best part about these tweets are the big market USA teams fans tweeting back at them saying it will never happen.

If Ohtani signs here I’m going to spend a good 22 mins reading Yankee/dodger/Redsocks fans heads exploding.

It would be like CGY fans and a lot of Canadian fanbases reacting to Gaudreau going to CBJ but 100X better.

- Santo_44

Nothing would be as sweet as watching Oilers fans implode when McDavid goes to TOR
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 1:08 PM ET
Arden on the latest ATL suggesting that the Blue Jays player development complex could give them a bit of a competitive advantage during the recruitment process given Ohtani's obsession with health & fitness

Not sure who Arden is but sweet.


The best part about these tweets are the big market USA teams fans tweeting back at them saying it will never happen.

If Ohtani signs here I’m going to spend a good 22 mins reading Yankee/dodger/Redsocks fans heads exploding.

It would be like CGY fans and a lot of Canadian fanbases reacting to Gaudreau going to CBJ but 100X better.

- Santo_44


Arden Zwelling.
fun speculation but id be surprised if that had any impact at all
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:10 PM ET
Do we like Hanifin enough to lose Minten, ++ and commit to $7.5 x 8 to another LHD?

I'm not sure he's that good?

- The Law

Not sure that fit and price make sense. He’d make the 2nd pairing better.

Rielly-Brodie
Hanifin-McCabe
Gio-Liljegren
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:11 PM ET
Arden Zwelling.
fun speculation but id be surprised if that had any impact at all

- senstroll

Dodgers shower in a homeless shelter
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Nov 30 @ 1:11 PM ET
Nothing will be as sweet as watching Oilers fans implode when McDavid goes to TOR
- Arctic_AARDVARK

FTFY
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 1:12 PM ET
Dodgers shower in a homeless shelter
- Canada Cup


maybe thats the secret why they win a lot of games
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 30 @ 1:20 PM ET
yeah none of those guys are with the team
- dmnted


Yeah, Hollowell signed with the Rangers, Mete went to the Flyers, and Benn is unofficially retired.

I don't know why they recalled Lajoie. He played 1 game under Keefe and Keefe had so much faith him in him that he played less than 5 minutes - against Buffalo. Under contract right now - and available with the Marlies - we're drawing from:

Benoit
Lagesson
Lajoie
Niemela
Kokkonen
Villeneueve
Rifai

That's the depth after the original top-7 - so with Klingberg likely gone for the year, one of those guys is now the 7D - and with Gio gone for probably a few weeks, one of those guys is the 6D, and with Liljegren out for at least another week if not two, one of those guys is the 5D, another is the 6D, and another is the 7D.

It looks crappy but in honesty not many teams are going to take the 8-10 depth D spots, move them up to the 4-6 spots and look fabulous doing it.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 30 @ 1:20 PM ET
And they’re all tried, proven, busts.


You guys for some reason think it’ll make any difference tinkering around the edges, when what they really need is to make a massive splash on defence. Get a superstar d man. Why not? I’d rather have Makar over anyone not named McDavid at this time. That’s what they need. Since Dubas is an idiot the Leafs haven’t tried to grab a Dman in the draft. Ghule and Scheider left on the board 🤢

Use Nylander and whoever else to get a legit #1RHD

- Arctic_AARDVARK

I'd rather not work anymore and $$ to spare - make it happen.

Jeez. you are not getting a Makar type dman via a trade PERIOD. You need to draft one like Scheider but it did not happen.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 1:21 PM ET
Nothing would be as sweet as watching Oilers fans implode when McDavid goes to TOR
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Oh im taking the week off work to read those comments
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 1:22 PM ET
Arden Zwelling.
fun speculation but id be surprised if that had any impact at all

- senstroll


It all adds to the pie.

If he chooses the Jays it’s chance to win, money and mayhe most importantly to have his brand in Canada.

Kikuchi maybe helps a bit.

There was someone legit who said a while ago that Ohtani is impressed with Jays player development.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 30 @ 1:28 PM ET
And they’re all tried, proven, busts.


You guys for some reason think it’ll make any difference tinkering around the edges, when what they really need is to make a massive splash on defence. Get a superstar d man. Why not? I’d rather have Makar over anyone not named McDavid at this time. That’s what they need. Since Dubas is an idiot the Leafs haven’t tried to grab a Dman in the draft. Ghule and Scheider left on the board 🤢

Use Nylander and whoever else to get a legit #1RHD

- Arctic_AARDVARK


What are you trading to get Makar? Why would anyone who has one of these guys give them up? There are maybe 5 #1 defensemen in the entire league. There are probably 20 top-tier 1st ling wingers. Nylander is exceptionally talented but you're dealing from a diluted pool and trying to pry someone out of a very shallow pool. There's no value proposition there. At all.

The teams that have these #1 guys have no interest in trading them. Heiskanen, Makar, Fox . . . the other elite guys - Josi, Hedman, Doughty are all 33.

A team on the downswing doesn't want a winger in his prime - they want prospects.

A team on the upswing wants a winger in their prime, but they aren't dealing away a young stud defenseman for him.

A team contending wants a winger in their prime, but they aren't trading off of their contending roster to get one.

Those are facts.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Nov 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Shane MacGowan has passed away.
- shack67

I saw that. Sucks. I drank a lot of Bushmills while listening to the Pogues in my youth.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Nov 30 @ 1:32 PM ET
I saw that. Sucks. I drank a lot of Bushmills while listening to the Pogues in my youth.
- GalacticStone

They were great. They did the all time greatest Christmas song too.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Nov 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
Just had to drop $130 for a new truck battery. Over the last couple of days I could tell the battery was getting weaker. It was manufactured in 2018, so five years is pretty good down here. Florida heat is murder on vehicle batteries.

This kind of poop always happens around Xmas though. Xmas is already one big extra expense, but it seems like some kind of unexpected bill will rear it's ugly head during the holidays. Last year it was vet bills.

If the extra phuckery is limited to $130, I will have gotten off light this year. Last year cost us thousands.


GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Nov 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
They were great. They did the all time greatest Christmas song too.
- shack67

He gave me hope that ugly-AF Irish guys could find success in the world.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
I'd rather not work anymore and $$ to spare - make it happen.

Jeez. you are not getting a Makar type dman via a trade PERIOD. You need to draft one like Scheider but it did not happen.

- dmnted


I do not get the obsession with Schneider. He's large and he hits people. He is out of position, slower and still struggles with decisions. He adds borderline value by most value-add metrics. He's good at the things he does but he struggles at overall defense. He is just 22 so he could absolutely bloom into a superstar but so far he's more Luke Schenn than Chris Pronger. Schneider, for the record, is looking better this year - but he's still -3 at 5v5 on a team that's 16-4-1 (albeit this is largely from the success of their special teams).

Guhle has been pretty good this year. I'd like to crap all over him, but he has arguably been Montreal's most valuable player to date.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 1:41 PM ET
It all adds to the pie.

If he chooses the Jays it’s chance to win, money and mayhe most importantly to have his brand in Canada.

Kikuchi maybe helps a bit.

There was someone legit who said a while ago that Ohtani is impressed with Jays player development.

- Santo_44


If Kikuchu helps...thats a pretty slick move signing him for 3 seasons


drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
Momento… pretty far out ahead of the Nolan pack of movies…
- dozerD10

is that the prequel to Memento?
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
Dodgers shower in a homeless shelter
- Canada Cup

so California
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
If Kikuchu helps...thats a pretty slick move signing him for 3 seasons
- senstroll

Could they sign Yamamoto too? Trade a pitcher.

Toronto would be Canadas and Japans team at that point with the 3 of them.

Bring in Kawasaki to be Jay the mascot and we are set.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Nov 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
He gave me hope that ugly-AF Irish guys could find success in the world.
- GalacticStone

drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
He gave me hope that ugly-AF Irish guys could find success in the world.
- GalacticStone

they can. just no longer in Ireland
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
Could they sign Yamamoto too? Trade a pitcher.

Toronto would be Canadas and Japans team at that point with the 3 of them.

Bring in Kawasaki to be Jay the mascot and we are set.

- Santo_44


sure, i think Manoah is the likeliest trade option.
and yes he has trade value
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