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Nov 30 @ 1:26 PM ET
The Bruins have had discussions with Calgary regarding Noah Hanifin…According to my sources, the price is a little steep for the Bruins, so there has also been some discussion surrounding Brandon Tanev.-EK
Since Marchand has been demoted to the third line maybe Sweeney really is trying to make a deal for Brandon Tanev to shore up his forward crew? This post could be like one of those old big city newspaper gossip columns where the real rumor is encoded in the story.
Between Monty calling a TO in the first period in New York so he could yell at everyone for 30 seconds and demoting Marchand all the way to the third line things are getting kind of weird in Beantown.
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA Joined: 04.27.2011
Nov 30 @ 4:28 PM ET
Since Marchand has been demoted to the third line maybe Sweeney really is trying to make a deal for Brandon Tanev to shore up his forward crew? This post could be like one of those old big city newspaper gossip columns where the real rumor is encoded in the story.
Between Monty calling a TO in the first period in New York so he could yell at everyone for 30 seconds and demoting Marchand all the way to the third line things are getting kind of weird in Beantown. - FoppaForever
There's almost no chance the Flames are trading Hanifin this early. The return would have to be insane like multiple firsts and a solid NHL-ready prospect. The Flames are better off resigning Hanifin. It doesn't matter if they're rebuilding or trying to win.
Even if it's a rebuild, he's only 26. He's a player that'll be impossible to replace if the Flames want to be competitive again within 3-5 years, and the rumoured extension was pretty much in line with market value. If the vibes stay good here, they'll likely extend him sometime early in the new year.
Tanev on the other hand. Get what you can get and get it quickly. Every game could be his last.
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Nov 30 @ 6:39 PM ET
There's almost no chance the Flames are trading Hanifin this early. The return would have to be insane like multiple firsts and a solid NHL-ready prospect. The Flames are better off resigning Hanifin. It doesn't matter if they're rebuilding or trying to win.
Even if it's a rebuild, he's only 26. He's a player that'll be impossible to replace if the Flames want to be competitive again within 3-5 years, and the rumoured extension was pretty much in line with market value. If the vibes stay good here, they'll likely extend him sometime early in the new year.
Tanev on the other hand. Get what you can get and get it quickly. Every game could be his last. - Squeaky
Well, obviously. But they basically had an extension agreed on when he nixed it after the Heritage Classic. That was also after pretty much the worst month in the history of the team. Vibes were bad. November was a whole lot better. If December and January continue on like that and things don't revert back to how they were in October, there's a pretty good chance he'd be willing to extend here.
It's why there's almost no chance they'll trade him anytime soon.
There's almost no chance the Flames are trading Hanifin this early. The return would have to be insane like multiple firsts and a solid NHL-ready prospect. The Flames are better off resigning Hanifin. It doesn't matter if they're rebuilding or trying to win.
Even if it's a rebuild, he's only 26. He's a player that'll be impossible to replace if the Flames want to be competitive again within 3-5 years, and the rumoured extension was pretty much in line with market value. If the vibes stay good here, they'll likely extend him sometime early in the new year.
Tanev on the other hand. Get what you can get and get it quickly. Every game could be his last. - Squeaky
When is the last time a rental went for that return? Also you realize Hanafin is on record stating he wants an American market?
When is the last time a rental went for that return? Also you realize Hanafin is on record stating he wants an American market? - jfkst1
That's the point.
He's not on record saying he wanted to go to an American market. That was an assumption. They had finished negotiating a contract earlier this year. All he had to do was sign it, but he backed out because of how awful things were in October. Why go through the process of negotiating an extension if only wanted to play in the States?
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Nov 30 @ 7:21 PM ET
Well, obviously. But they basically had an extension agreed on when he nixed it after the Heritage Classic. That was also after pretty much the worst month in the history of the team. Vibes were bad. November was a whole lot better. If December and January continue on like that and things don't revert back to how they were in October, there's a pretty good chance he'd be willing to extend here.
It's why there's almost no chance they'll trade him anytime soon. - Squeaky
He's going to hit the UFA market at 27 1/2. He can only get a 7 year deal on the market instead of the 8 Calgary can offer. So advantage Calgary on term. But given the tax situation, he's an American, and the direction of the team, Calgary's going to have to overpay. I get his value, believe me, but would it not be better to just go for rebuild and get some assets from a contender? I guess this comes down to what Calgary is doing long term. I have zero idea, but the team certainly doesn't seem close to contention.
He's not on record saying he wanted to go to an American market. That was an assumption. They had finished negotiating a contract earlier this year. All he had to do was sign it, but he backed out because of how awful things were in October. Why go through the process of negotiating an extension if only wanted to play in the States? - Squeaky
So he can sign and trade. If he is that hesitant on re-signing a long term deal based on the start to a season, then he is very clearly not committed at all. The outlook still isn't great for Calgary either. They could easily miss the playoffs again.
He's going to hit the UFA market at 27 1/2. He can only get a 7 year deal on the market instead of the 8 Calgary can offer. So advantage Calgary on term. But given the tax situation, he's an American, and the direction of the team, Calgary's going to have to overpay. I get his value, believe me, but would it not be better to just go for rebuild and get some assets from a contender? I guess this comes down to what Calgary is doing long term. I have zero idea, but the team certainly doesn't seem close to contention. - Only_A_Ladd
They're never going to get assets back for Hanifin that will be better than Hanifin. He's a solid, not spectacular, 2-3 defenceman. Unless the plan is to tear it down to the studs and start over from scratch, they're going to want to be competitive again in 2-3 years. What are the chances that the bottom ten pick and mediocre prospect they get back for Hanifin are going to be top-pairing defencemen or top-six forwards in three years?
Tanev and Zadorov are like 95% gone, and there are not really any exciting prospects in the system. They'd need another top-pairing, top-four defenceman minimum before they can be competitive again. What are the chances the Flames will be able to sign a top-four defenceman in three years for less than 7.5 million? How many Hanifin calibre players are available for trade every year?
Trading away everyone for a rebuild doesn't work if you just leave your team with massive holes that you don't really have any way to fill. He should also still be a top-four guy for all eight years.
They're never going to get assets back for Hanifin that will be better than Hanifin. He's a solid, not spectacular, 2-3 defenceman. Unless the plan is to tear it down to the studs and start over from scratch, they're going to want to be competitive again in 2-3 years. What are the chances that the bottom ten pick and mediocre prospect they get back for Hanifin are going to be top-pairing defencemen or top-six forwards in three years?
Tanev and Zadorov are like 95% gone, and there are not really any exciting prospects in the system. They'd need another top-pairing, top-four defenceman minimum before they can be competitive again. What are the chances the Flames will be able to sign a top-four defenceman in three years for less than 7.5 million? How many Hanifin calibre players are available for trade every year?
Trading away everyone for a rebuild doesn't work if you just leave your team with massive holes that you don't really have any way to fill. He should also still be a top-four guy for all eight years. - Squeaky
I mean he’s a former 5th overall minute munching top pairing defenceman who is very responsible defensively and has 30 - 40pt / season production, while boasting an above average skating ability…..just saying
I mean he’s a former 5th overall minute munching top pairing defenceman who is very responsible defensively and has 30 - 40pt / season production, while boasting an above average skating ability…..just saying - kresco
