Forget about any free agents to play for this guy either.
- ClaudeFather

unless severe overpay or GH types

players talk to each other more than ever now

2 secs is barely enough time for Bee to say "(frank) off"
- Tomahawk

I reluctantly clicked on the recent interview that Ashley Sullivan had with Keith Jones. He said the team was playing as they wanted with hard work, honesty and some toughness. I just laughed and turned it off. Old school cave man cliches. They keep trying to sell the same crap! What the city identifies with. It's all bullpoop! Will this team ever change.

I reluctantly clicked on the recent interview that Ashley Sullivan had with Keith Jones. He said the team was playing as they wanted with hard work, honesty and some toughness. I just laughed and turned it off. Old school cave man cliches. They keep trying to sell the same crap! What the city identifies with. It's all bullpoop! Will this team ever change.
- MJL

The problem as I see it is that after being on twitter, facebook, other websites, discussion boards, comment sections in articles etc etc etc. I think the majority of the fan base agree with Jonesy and love Torts. I think we are a minority here in Hockeybuzzland.

The problem as I see it is that after being on twitter, facebook, other websites, discussion boards, comment sections in articles etc etc etc. I think the majority of the fan base agree with Jonesy and love Torts. I think we are a minority here in Hockeybuzzland.
- MBFlyerfan

Not the first person to have that opinion. If that is true, we're screwed. Of course they'll eventually turn when inevitably the results aren't there. How long will that take though because the same fans are easily satisfied just by the team making the playoffs.

The problem as I see it is that after being on twitter, facebook, other websites, discussion boards, comment sections in articles etc etc etc. I think the majority of the fan base agree with Jonesy and love Torts. I think we are a minority here in Hockeybuzzland.
- MBFlyerfan

Agree but you can also see when they lose, the boards start to turn. A good bit of fans turn pretty quick on wins and loses.

The problem as I see it is that after being on twitter, facebook, other websites, discussion boards, comment sections in articles etc etc etc. I think the majority of the fan base agree with Jonesy and love Torts. I think we are a minority here in Hockeybuzzland.
- MBFlyerfan

Very much so.

Scott/Hilferty are shrewd. They are only giving the fans what they really want.

So…You guys think Farabee is still picking up the pieces of his fragile ego after his benching last night? I’m sure the public shaming was hard on him. I often hate when my boss pays me to do literally nothing at work.

In all seriousness, I don’t agree with the benching but it really is nothing. It seems to me Konency used his benching last season as a motivational tool and I wouldn’t doubt Konency passed on a little advice. As a fan, I’ll be more concerned if this benching reaches a Frost like level.

Very much so.

Scott/Hilferty are shrewd. They are only giving the fans what they really want.
- Tomahawk

This baffles me. Why don't Scott/Hilferty want a championship? Would winning a championship hurt their business? Would Flyers fans stop supporting the team if the Flyers became a really good, talented skilled team built on speed and offense versus the "honest, hardworking, physical" team?

This baffles me. Why don't Scott/Hilferty want a championship? Would winning a championship hurt their business? Would Flyers fans stop supporting the team if the Flyers became a really good, talented skilled team built on speed and offense versus the "honest, hardworking, physical" team?
- MJL

Because they think, and so do most of the typical old head Flyer fans, that the way to do it is to fight, check, and intimidate your way to winning.

Hit sumbuddy!

Sharks first road win 6-3 over devils.

Send lose to CBJ

It is a weird season

Because they think, and so do most of the typical old head Flyer fans, that the way to do it is to fight, check, and intimidate your way to winning.

Hit sumbuddy!
- MBFlyerfan

That's just being oblivious to reality. If they really think that's still the way, they're tone deaf and incompetent. It's a shame. I've always been a fan of Keith Jones but he has disappointed me.

Sharks first road win 6-3 over devils.

Send lose to CBJ

It is a weird season
- wcorvette

No doubt.

Because they think, and so do most of the typical old head Flyer fans, that the way to do it is to fight, check, and intimidate your way to winning.

Hit sumbuddy!
- MBFlyerfan

I'm sorry, but I can't really agree with this sentiment. I think most educated typical old head Flyers fans realize that the game has changed. The reality is that the Giroux/Voracek lead Flyers teams were too easy to play against. You aren't going to win by fighting and intimidating anymore, but you damn well better be hard to play against come playoff time. Just look at the two teams left standing last year. Florida out physicaled the Laffs in their playoff series last year to the point that they went out and got Reaves and a few other sandpaper type players. Vegas was probably the most physical team in last year's playoff and their big defense shut down the Panthers forecheck in the Finals. Point being, yes, you need speed and skill, but you damn well bring the physical element come playoff time or you're going nowhere fast.

No chance they sell high on an asset.
- StepfordSam

No chance but not because they are incompetent (unless you see this next part as incompetence). Because they still believe they can make the POs and winning is a good thing. Until they can’t make it, 0% chance they make a trade unless it is a hockey trade where they get something back that can help right now. Since that won’t happen in this scenario because their biggest weakness is D, this trade will not happen. Period. End of story, but great click bait EK.

Additionally, on a potential Walker trade. It currently looks like a buyers market. For Zadorov, Calgary received a third-round pick in the 2026 NHL Draft and a fifth-round selection in the 2024 NHL Draft that Vancouver initially acquired from the Chicago Blackhawks. Assuming he would have similar value, is this even worth it for Walker right now? Even if the Flyers were offered a 2024 second, is it worth it right now?

At this price, I'd keep him and trade him at the deadline. Yes he might get injured, and it would be 100% Philly for that to happen, but at the expected market value, I’d hold onto him.

Now if the offer was a first, or a quality D prospect, then you have to seriously consider it. But that is far fetched IMHO based on the Zadorov trade.

I'm sorry, but I can't really agree with this sentiment. I think most educated typical old head Flyers fans realize that the game has changed. The reality is that the Giroux/Voracek lead Flyers teams were too easy to play against. You aren't going to win by fighting and intimidating anymore, but you damn well better be hard to play against come playoff time. Just look at the two teams left standing last year. Florida out physicaled the Laffs in their playoff series last year to the point that they went out and got Reaves and a few other sandpaper type players. Vegas was probably the most physical team in last year's playoff and their big defense shut down the Panthers forecheck in the Finals. Point being, yes, you need speed and skill, but you damn well bring the physical element come playoff time or you're going nowhere fast.
- Phillywhiteout

Giroux/Voracek era lost because they had no talent on defense once Pronger got hurt not because they didn’t have grit. B Schenn and Simmonds are the very definition of hard to play against players. Toronto lost to Florida for the same reason because they have no talent on defense. Talent is everything. Until the Flyers get elite talent on the back end and more of it coming for the forwards, grit, fighting, size, coaching, cliches, pretty much everything every fan is currently happy or mad about doesn’t matter.

So…You guys think Farabee is still picking up the pieces of his fragile ego after his benching last night? I’m sure the public shaming was hard on him. I often hate when my boss pays me to do literally nothing at work.

In all seriousness, I don’t agree with the benching but it really is nothing. It seems to me Konency used his benching last season as a motivational tool and I wouldn’t doubt Konency passed on a little advice. As a fan, I’ll be more concerned if this benching reaches a Frost like level.
- roenick97

Accountability is important. I think the issue most of us have with Bees benching is two-fold:
1-It hurt the team once Hathaway was ejected
2-The inconsistency of who gets punished and who doesn’t

This baffles me. Why don't Scott/Hilferty want a championship? Would winning a championship hurt their business? Would Flyers fans stop supporting the team if the Flyers became a really good, talented skilled team built on speed and offense versus the "honest, hardworking, physical" team?
- MJL

And yet they also seem too closed-minded to realize they can have all of that if they do it right.

Rather than continue to coach and use it as a teaching moment. Bench the player who has arguably been the teams best forward this season. For one mistake. Is that what a quality modern day NHL coach does. I'll echo what Tomahawk posted last night. When all you have is a hammer, you see everything as a nail.
- MJL

Firstly, you have ZERO clue what a modern day NHL coach is or what he does! Do you honestly think this is the first time Farabee has made this mistake, or any Flyers forward for that matter? It's NOT one mistake, it's a series of mistakes that has culminated in Torts benching the player; that's what REAL coaches do when a player is just not playing the way he is supposed to. Your here Montgomery the other night benched Swayman after only two goals against while the game before he left Ullmark in for 7 goals against. After he said Swayman's head was in the game and his team needed a boost. So this is exactly what coaches do.

Now, with that said, if it were me, I would have benched Farabee for the remainder of the period. Then seeing what happened with Hathaway, pulled Farabee aside between periods, explained to him again what I want from him and let him know I am putting him back in the game only because of the circumstance with Hathaway. Finally I would tell Farabee, your play in 2nd and 3rd periods of this game will determine whether you are in the lineup this weekend against Pittsburgh.

The Flyers played with basically 9 forwards the rest of the game against a really good division rival and played their butts off. I don't think the entire team should have been made to suffer because of the mistake of one player and a bad call by the refs.

Tough loss for CC and the Sens. Still bringing up the rear in the division.

Sharks first road win 6-3 over devils.

Send lose to CBJ

It is a weird season
- wcorvette

Sens are a dumpster fire. Last in the conf although they have games in hand. I can see that coach being canned soon. They were supposed to take the next step to the playoffs this year.

Tough loss for CC and the Sens. Still bringing up the rear in the division.
- hello it's me 2050

It's amazing isn't it? No matter where he goes, Philly, Florida and Ottawa, Suck follows

Tough loss for CC and the Sens. Still bringing up the rear in the division.
- hello it's me 2050

.. in the conference. I thought they would be better. Didn’t help that pinto decided to channel his inner Pete rose.

Sharks first road win 6-3 over devils.

Send lose to CBJ

It is a weird season
- wcorvette

The Sharks can thank the Flyers for this win ... that was a grueling game for the Devils against the Flyers, they were due for a let down.

A legitimate second guess on Tort's decision of the players he put out there against the Hughes boys in OT the other night. I understand TK and Sanheim, but Couts is just too slow to play against the Hughes boys. I understand putting Couts out there for the opening faceoff to gain control, but once control was established, he should have skated to the bench and Frost should have been out. If ever there was a game tailor made for Morgan Frost, its 3 on 3. In fact if it were me , seeing the Jack and Luke Hughes were starting the OT, I would have started Frost, TK and Atkinson. Match speed and skill with speed and skill. On the bright side, at least Torts didn't start two defenseman out there.