Sens are a dumpster fire. Last in the conf although they have games in hand. I can see that coach being canned soon. They were supposed to take the next step to the playoffs this year.
- Hextall271

shocked that coach has survived this long. On paper they are much better. Made a huge mistake with the free gent goalie they signed.

It's amazing isn't it? No matter where he goes, Philly, Florida and Ottawa, Suck follows
- jd250

it is interesting. he is still producing so.....But hey he has a family and wanted to go home.

it is interesting. he is still producing so.....But hey he has a family and wanted to go home.
- hello it's me 2050

Sure he did, just like he would only play for Florida the year before. He is a fraud!

Heard form Anthony DiMarco that teams have reached out the Flyers about Frost, but there really isn't a market for him right now. The Flyers would rather keep him than trade him for a 4th round pick. I'm glad Frost scored on the PP the other night so I hope he stays in the lineup and gets good PP time. Frost also needs 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 time, the more open ice he has the better he is. What he absolutely has to get out of his game is the dumb penalties, 2 more against Jersey the other night.

Firstly, you have ZERO clue what a modern day NHL coach is or what he does! Do you honestly think this is the first time Farabee has made this mistake, or any Flyers forward for that matter? It's NOT one mistake, it's a series of mistakes that has culminated in Torts benching the player; that's what REAL coaches do when a player is just not playing the way he is supposed to. Your here Montgomery the other night benched Swayman after only two goals against while the game before he left Ullmark in for 7 goals against. After he said Swayman's head was in the game and his team needed a boost. So this is exactly what coaches do.

Now, with that said, if it were me, I would have benched Farabee for the remainder of the period. Then seeing what happened with Hathaway, pulled Farabee aside between periods, explained to him again what I want from him and let him know I am putting him back in the game only because of the circumstance with Hathaway. Finally I would tell Farabee, your play in 2nd and 3rd periods of this game will determine whether you are in the lineup this weekend against Pittsburgh.

The Flyers played with basically 9 forwards the rest of the game against a really good division rival and played their butts off. I don't think the entire team should have been made to suffer because of the mistake of one player and a bad call by the refs.
- jd250

You're stepping in it again. You're literally comparing a coach pulling a goalie versus benching a forward. Do you realize how stupid you look when you tell someone they don't know something and then make an absurd comment? You don't do you? If you did, you stop making absurd comments on a daily basis.
What is also missing is any documentation or examples of Farabee repeatedly making mistakes. You don't offer that because, one, you are completely incapable of it and secondly, because it doesn't exist. Tortorella used Farabee as an example because he saw something leaking into the teams game, not Farabee specifically. That F3 has been too aggressive leading to odd man rushes and goals against. Quality coaches don't bench a player for a game, who has been arguably the teams best forward and has played as he had, for one mistake. Tortorella did so because he is a jackass.
Then you go on to post that Farabee has to play a "prove it" game to stay in the lineup for the next game. Laughable with the way that Farabee has played this season. Based on recent comments you made such as you don't see Farabee as a top 6 player and is better suited for the 3rd line. It's clear that you have zero ability to asses a player or a situation accurately. You reinforced all of that with your post above. You continue to make a fool of yourself.

A legitimate second guess on Tort's decision of the players he put out there against the Hughes boys in OT the other night. I understand TK and Sanheim, but Couts is just too slow to play against the Hughes boys. I understand putting Couts out there for the opening faceoff to gain control, but once control was established, he should have skated to the bench and Frost should have been out. If ever there was a game tailor made for Morgan Frost, its 3 on 3. In fact if it were me , seeing the Jack and Luke Hughes were starting the OT, I would have started Frost, TK and Atkinson. Match speed and skill with speed and skill. On the bright side, at least Torts didn't start two defenseman out there.
- jd250

That's not correct. Couturier was open going to the net for a potential high quality scoring chance to win the game if Sanheim could have gotten him the puck. It has nothing to do with Couturier's skating speed. Couturier has been defending at a high level against players like Hughes his entire career.

Sure he did, just like he would only play for Florida the year before. He is a fraud!
- jd250

By all means, keep embarrassing yourself.

Heard form Anthony DiMarco that teams have reached out the Flyers about Frost, but there really isn't a market for him right now. The Flyers would rather keep him than trade him for a 4th round pick. I'm glad Frost scored on the PP the other night so I hope he stays in the lineup and gets good PP time. Frost also needs 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 time, the more open ice he has the better he is. What he absolutely has to get out of his game is the dumb penalties, 2 more against Jersey the other night.
- jd250

If teams are reaching out for him, how isn't there a market? Teams interested in trading for him, means there is a market.

Giroux/Voracek era lost because they had no talent on defense once Pronger got hurt not because they didn’t have grit. B Schenn and Simmonds are the very definition of hard to play against players. Toronto lost to Florida for the same reason because they have no talent on defense. Talent is everything. Until the Flyers get elite talent on the back end and more of it coming for the forwards, grit, fighting, size, coaching, cliches, pretty much everything every fan is currently happy or mad about doesn’t matter.
- psuhockey

Disagree once again. If that's the case with the Laffs then why did they pick up Reaves and a couple of other sand paper players in the off season? It's a known fact that they thought that they were outplayed physically. I'm not making this stuff up. Pronger was the definition of grit, and Simmonds and Schenn are a total of TWO forwards. Other than the 2012 series against the Pens they were handled physically.

Disagree once again. If that's the case with the Laffs then why did they pick up Reaves and a couple of other sand paper players in the off season? It's a known fact that they thought that they were outplayed physically. I'm not making this stuff up. Pronger was the definition of grit, and Simmonds and Schenn are a total of TWO forwards. Other than the 2012 series against the Pens they were handled physically.
- Phillywhiteout

Obviously you're not making it up that they signed Reaves. What you're making up is the importance of a player like Reaves. He's averaging 7.39 TOI per game. Not much for a player that is so important. Physicality is important. Being competitive on the puck is important but it is secondary to speed, skill and talent.

Sure he did, just like he would only play for Florida the year before. He is a fraud!
- jd250

Obviously you're not making it up that they signed Reaves. What you're making up is the importance of a player like Reaves. He's averaging 7.39 TOI per game. Not much for a player that is so important. Physicality is important. Being competitive on the puck is important but it is secondary to speed, skill and talent.
- MJL

I don't think you understand my point. I'm not saying that Reaves is an important player in today's game. I'm saying that the Laffs went out and got him in the off season because they felt like Florida got the better of them physically in last season's playoff series (they also picked up a couple of other physical players). Physicality ramps up big time come playoff time, so you better have some serious grit to your game to compete come playoff time.

By all means, keep embarrassing yourself.
- MJL

i do not see any hockey related content. stop trolling.

I don't think you understand my point. I'm not saying that Reaves is an important player in today's game. I'm saying that the Laffs went out and got him in the off season because they felt like Florida got the better of them physically in last season's playoff series (they also picked up a couple of other physical players). Physicality ramps up big time come playoff time, so you better have some serious grit to your game to compete come playoff time.
- Phillywhiteout

No, I'm not failing to understand your point. I think you're incorrectly using Reaves as an example. As if Reaves could possibly make a difference in a playoff series such as that. Again, they are playing him 7 minutes a game and he's not playing every game. How important do they think he is? You certainly have to compete on the puck in the playoffs and checking certainly gets tighter. However, skill and playmaking is what wins. The Leafs issue is and has always been balance and depth in the lineup and they don't have enough two way defenseman. Reaves is irrelevant.

Accountability is important. I think the issue most of us have with Bees benching is two-fold:
1-It hurt the team once Hathaway was ejected
2-The inconsistency of who gets punished and who doesn’t
- mikeyo27

I have the same problem with the benching. I’m just not gonna allow it to ruin my mood until the next game. It’s not that huge an issue.

No, I'm not failing to understand your point. I think you're incorrectly using Reaves as an example. As if Reaves could possibly make a difference in a playoff series such as that. Again, they are playing him 7 minutes a game and he's not playing every game. How important do they think he is? You certainly have to compete on the puck in the playoffs and checking certainly gets tighter. However, skill and playmaking is what wins. The Leafs issue is and has always been balance and depth in the lineup and they don't have enough two way defenseman. Reaves is irrelevant.
- MJL

leafs have had plenty of balance and depth. Their main issue is the d corp isnt very good. coaching also an issue.

for whatever reason that core can't win.

That's not correct. Couturier was open going to the net for a potential high quality scoring chance to win the game if Sanheim could have gotten him the puck. It has nothing to do with Couturier's skating speed. Couturier has been defending at a high level against players like Hughes his entire career.
- MJL

Your lack of knowledge comes through once again. In OT its not 5 on 5 hockey! There is a ton more space 3 on 3 and thus Couts should have won the faceoff and got off the ice, period! That play was ill-advised by Sanheim, he should have held back and let TK take the puck deeper in the zone. That play had no chance in hell in working and it was obvious it was going to lead to an odd man rush the other way with only TK back, since Couts and Sanheim had no chance catching the Hughes boys once they headed back up ice. So please, stop embarrassing yourself by trying to attack me. Torts IMO had the wrong players on the ice to match up against Luke and Jack, and the Flyers paid for it.

i do not see any hockey related content. stop trolling.
- hello it's me 2050

That is all he knows how to do.

No, I'm not failing to understand your point. I think you're incorrectly using Reaves as an example. As if Reaves could possibly make a difference in a playoff series such as that. Again, they are playing him 7 minutes a game and he's not playing every game. How important do they think he is? You certainly have to compete on the puck in the playoffs and checking certainly gets tighter. However, skill and playmaking is what wins. The Leafs issue is and has always been balance and depth in the lineup and they don't have enough two way defenseman. Reaves is irrelevant.
- MJL

You are missing my point, but we're done here I guess. I'm not valuing a player such as Reaves. I'm saying that they went out and got him in the off season for the reason of making their team tougher. It was a dumb move by them cause Reaves is cooked. I think they also picked up Bertuzzi and someone else with snarl to their game. I realize that guys like Reaves and ND are irrelevant in today's game. Bottom line, they tried to get tougher in the off season to give themselves a better chance to compete in the playoffs. I mean, their star players aren't exactly gritty players (Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares).

If teams are reaching out for him, how isn't there a market? Teams interested in trading for him, means there is a market.
- MJL

I should have said poor market for Frost right now, and thus it is reported that the Flyers would rather keep Frost than take a 4th round pick which has, what, a 5% chance of being an NHL player? I think this makes total sense right now. The Flyers need to play Frost 3 on 3, 4 on 4 and on the PP as much as possible, then he'll have score some points and have a better market for himself.

You're stepping in it again. You're literally comparing a coach pulling a goalie versus benching a forward. Do you realize how stupid you look when you tell someone they don't know something and then make an absurd comment? You don't do you? If you did, you stop making absurd comments on a daily basis.
What is also missing is any documentation or examples of Farabee repeatedly making mistakes. You don't offer that because, one, you are completely incapable of it and secondly, because it doesn't exist. Tortorella used Farabee as an example because he saw something leaking into the teams game, not Farabee specifically. That F3 has been too aggressive leading to odd man rushes and goals against. Quality coaches don't bench a player for a game, who has been arguably the teams best forward and has played as he had, for one mistake. Tortorella did so because he is a jackass.
Then you go on to post that Farabee has to play a "prove it" game to stay in the lineup for the next game. Laughable with the way that Farabee has played this season. Based on recent comments you made such as you don't see Farabee as a top 6 player and is better suited for the 3rd line. It's clear that you have zero ability to asses a player or a situation accurately. You reinforced all of that with your post above. You continue to make a fool of yourself.
- MJL

There is one jackass here, and it's not me, and it's certainly not Torts! I think Farabee is a decent middle six forward, nothing more. He is not consistent. He had a good start to the season and has tapered off since. BTW, he is not the only one. Tippet had a great game against Anaheim, and looked great against New Jersey. Where has he been in all the other games?? The Flyers right now have a serious issue with their younger players, they just don't show up every game or even every shift. Contrast that with Sanheim this year, or TK or Hathaway .. noticeable each and every shift of each and every game. This to me is the biggest problem the Flyers have to overcome and if benching Farabee for a game sends that message, then so be it.

And BTW, since you have a clear reading disorder or perhaps English is not your first language, I said IF I WHERE TORTS and GIVEN THE SITUATION IN THE GAME, I would reinsert Farabee after the 1st period, tell him why I benched him and why I am inserting him back in the game, and tell him his play the rest of the game will determine whether he gets benched further. I would only do this because the team needed him with Deslauriers only playing 8 minutes and Hathaway ejected.

I should have said poor market for Frost right now, and thus it is reported that the Flyers would rather keep Frost than take a 4th round pick which has, what, a 5% chance of being an NHL player? I think this makes total sense right now. The Flyers need to play Frost 3 on 3, 4 on 4 and on the PP as much as possible, then he'll have score some points and have a better market for himself.
- jd250

That's pretty disappointing if he would only fetch a 4th rounder. I mean, he's supposed to be a first rounder. Let him play as everyone but the bone headed coach knows! If that's the best you can get for him later in the season than just keep him. No rush to trade anyone right now unless they are bowled over by an offer.

Your lack of knowledge comes through once again. In OT its not 5 on 5 hockey! There is a ton more space 3 on 3 and thus Couts should have won the faceoff and got off the ice, period! That play was ill-advised by Sanheim, he should have held back and let TK take the puck deeper in the zone. That play had no chance in hell in working and it was obvious it was going to lead to an odd man rush the other way with only TK back, since Couts and Sanheim had no chance catching the Hughes boys once they headed back up ice. So please, stop embarrassing yourself by trying to attack me. Torts IMO had the wrong players on the ice to match up against Luke and Jack, and the Flyers paid for it.
- jd250

Oh brother! LMAO. Couturier has been matching up with top players in 3 on 3 in OT his entire career. Hey, A for effort though.

There is one jackass here, and it's not me, and it's certainly not Torts! I think Farabee is a decent middle six forward, nothing more. He is not consistent. He had a good start to the season and has tapered off since. BTW, he is not the only one. Tippet had a great game against Anaheim, and looked great against New Jersey. Where has he been in all the other games?? The Flyers right now have a serious issue with their younger players, they just don't show up every game or even every shift. Contrast that with Sanheim this year, or TK or Hathaway .. noticeable each and every shift of each and every game. This to me is the biggest problem the Flyers have to overcome and if benching Farabee for a game sends that message, then so be it.

And BTW, since you have a clear reading disorder or perhaps English is not your first language, I said IF I WHERE TORTS and GIVEN THE SITUATION IN THE GAME, I would reinsert Farabee after the 1st period, tell him why I benched him and why I am inserting him back in the game, and tell him his play the rest of the game will determine whether he gets benched further. I would only do this because the team needed him with Deslauriers only playing 8 minutes and Hathaway ejected.
- jd250

No way ND should be dressed against a fast team like the Devils. Another Torts blunder. Young players are going to be inconsistent. That comes with the territory. As good as Bedard is I'm guessing that he has had games where he was invisible. TK and Sanheim aren't really young anymore, and Sanheim has not been good lately (-7 in the last 2 games).

You are missing my point, but we're done here I guess. I'm not valuing a player such as Reaves. I'm saying that they went out and got him in the off season for the reason of making their team tougher. It was a dumb move by them cause Reaves is cooked. I think they also picked up Bertuzzi and someone else with snarl to their game. I realize that guys like Reaves and ND are irrelevant in today's game. Bottom line, they tried to get tougher in the off season to give themselves a better chance to compete in the playoffs. I mean, their star players aren't exactly gritty players (Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares).
- Phillywhiteout

Matthews and Marner are two of the best two way forwards in the league. Both Matthews and Marner are both Selke level defenders as forwards.