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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
Well so far in this game I think he has Sucked with a capital 'S', and I am getting tired of the numerous turnovers and missed scoring chances. The kid needs to start playing much better.
- jd250


Okay, so how can he start playing much better if he is benched? Young players are going to have struggles. It's part of the maturation process of a player. You coach him through it and keep sending him out there. Stop with the benching crap! It's horsepoop!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:37 PM ET
Nope, that came from Boucher
- jd250



I have the same feed. Boucher didn't say that.


You live in your own fantasy world.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:37 PM ET
Okay, so how can he start playing much better if he is benched? Young players are going to have struggles. It's part of the maturation process of a player. You coach him through it and keep sending him out there. Stop with the benching crap! It's horsepoop!
- MJL

I wish Torts would bench you!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
I have the same feed. Boucher didn't say that.


You live in your own fantasy world.

- MJL

Ok, so rewind and watch it again ..
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
Kid can f@cking rip it!
- Pelle31Forever


Loving foresters game right now. Bill was correct. He predicted that when he started scoring that it’d come in bunches. Let’s win the 3rd and send these guys back to their igloo.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:39 PM ET
Ok, so rewind and watch it again ..
- jd250


Why would I need to do that? I can tell you what Boucher actually said.

You need to watch the game!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
Sadheim looks like he needs a phucking vacation...NOW! Thanks! People blaming Farabee for that goal by Crysby need to watch Sadheim. What the hell is he doing hanging out on the half wall on that play? Ummm...you're a defenseman and you had no play to make there. GTF back!! Thanks again!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
Why would I need to do that? I can tell you what Boucher actually said.

You need to watch the game!

- MJL

Because then you can see that you are wrong and then apologize. That's Ok, I'll wait.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
Why would I need to do that? I can tell you what Boucher actually said.

You need to watch the game!

- MJL

Correction, Boucher asked "who accepted that pass?" and Jim Jackson answered: "Morgan Frost, who is now having to answer for it" as Torts was yelling in his direction. The 4th line was on the ice, and Frost jumped on too quickly and accepted a pass before Poehling could get off the ice. It was a bonehead play that I would not expect a pro like Frost to make.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
Because then you can see that you are wrong and then apologize. That's Ok, I'll wait.
- jd250


I know I'm not wrong. Boucher said that Tortorella asked the assistant coach who received the pass and he said Frost. The part about Tortorella yelled at Frost, you completely made up!

Watch the game!

By the way, the kid you want to bench. Is part of a line that has a CF% of 66.67%. Has a scoring chance advantage of 5-0 and 2-0 high danger chance advantage. The line if Tippett/Frost/Brink has not given up a single scoring chance all game. With the Pens having a 15-6 scoring chance advantage in the second period.

You need to watch the game!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:49 PM ET
Correction, Boucher asked "who accepted that pass?" and Jim Jackson answered: "Morgan Frost, who is now having to answer for it" as Torts was yelling in his direction. The 4th line was on the ice, and Frost jumped on too quickly and accepted a pass before Poehling could get off the ice. It was a bonehead play that I would not expect a pro like Frost to make.
- jd250


You have it wrong. You also don't know who made the mistake there. It's a miscommunication between two players.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:49 PM ET
Sadheim looks like he needs a phucking vacation...NOW! Thanks! People blaming Farabee for that goal by Crysby need to watch Sadheim. What the hell is he doing hanging out on the half wall on that play? Ummm...you're a defenseman and you had no play to make there. GTF back!! Thanks again!
- Phillywhiteout


It’s a bad pinch….in a normal coverage….but the D on the Flyers seem to be doing that deep pinch an awful lot that I have to think it’s at the behest of the coach. As the winger your supposed to be his protection…I must admit I don’t remember seeing a Flyer team do this quite as much…I mean down a couple of goals in the 3rd period you tell your d do it more…but the Flyers appear to want it all the time.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:49 PM ET
I know I'm not wrong. Boucher said that Tortorella asked the assistant coach who received the pass and he said Frost. The part about Tortorella yelled at Frost, you completely made up!

Watch the game!

By the way, the kid you want to bench. Is part of a line that has a CF% of 66.67%. Has a scoring chance advantage of 5-0 and 2-0 high danger chance advantage. The line if Tippett/Frost/Brink has not given up a single scoring chance all game. With the Pens having a 15-6 scoring chance advantage in the second period.

You need to watch the game!

- MJL

Wow, you really are embarrassing yourself now. Anyone with even a little understanding of hockey can see how bad Tippet is playing right now. Just when I think you can't get any worse, you take it to a new low.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 4 @ 8:50 PM ET
Tippett doesn't need to be benched. You have Tortorella on the brain.
- MJL

Tippett had the worst turnover of the game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:51 PM ET
Wow, you really are embarrassing yourself now. Anyone with even a little understanding of hockey can see how bad Tippet is playing right now. Just when I think you can't get any worse, you take it to a new low.
- jd250


I gave you the facts, which you don't want to accept. You don't know what you're looking at.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:51 PM ET
Sadheim looks like he needs a phucking vacation...NOW! Thanks! People blaming Farabee for that goal by Crysby need to watch Sadheim. What the hell is he doing hanging out on the half wall on that play? Ummm...you're a defenseman and you had no play to make there. GTF back!! Thanks again!
- Phillywhiteout

The issue is when the defenseman pinches, the forward needs to cover for him. It's a complete gaff when the forward that is supposed to be covering for the pinching defenseman also pinches. He should know better.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:54 PM ET
The issue is when the defenseman pinches, the forward needs to cover for him. It's a complete gaff when the forward that is supposed to be covering for the pinching defenseman also pinches. He should know better.
- jd250


The issue is the defenseman needs to make the proper read. In the last handful of games, Sanhiem has made at least 3 pinches where he did not have a legitimate play on the puck. Leading to odd man rushes against. Farabee was again, too aggressive as F3 but the play starts with the bad pinch by Sanheim.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:58 PM ET
I don't want to see the 4th line for the rest of this game!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 9:03 PM ET
The issue is the defenseman needs to make the proper read. In the last handful of games, Sanhiem has made at least 3 pinches where he did not have a legitimate play on the puck. Leading to odd man rushes against. Farabee was again, too aggressive as F3 but the play starts with the bad pinch by Sanheim.
- MJL

I agree it was a bad pinch by Sanheim, I was just explaining why people on here were blaming Farabee.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Dec 4 @ 9:04 PM ET
I don't want to see the 4th line for the rest of this game!
- jd250


If you keep benching everyone Torts is going to have to lace em’ up
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 9:11 PM ET
If you keep benching everyone Torts is going to have to lace em’ up
- funmaster18


He has Tortorella fever. Hangs on every word he says.
AndreLacroix
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NC
Joined: 06.01.2007

Dec 4 @ 9:12 PM ET
I wonder about that too. Since he turns 20 on the 30th of December.


edit: found this. he makes it by 1 day.

https://www.defendthenest...prospect-play-in-the-ahl/

- MBFlyerfan

Thanks!

AndreLacroix
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NC
Joined: 06.01.2007

Dec 4 @ 9:16 PM ET
One of the loopholes in the AHL/CHL Age Rule is that a player who turns 20 by the end of the calendar year (Gendron was born Dec 30, 2003) can play in the AHL. It's weird because NHL Draft has a Sept. 15 birthday cutoff, which is why Gendron wasn't Draft-eligible until 2022. But that's why Gendron is in the AHL despite being draft-plus-two and not 20 yet.
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 4 @ 9:17 PM ET
If you keep benching everyone Torts is going to have to lace em’ up
- funmaster18

That would be great actually ... I bet he gets into a fight within the first 10 seconds.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 4 @ 9:19 PM ET
Peacock 🦚 PP!
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