With Cates injured, currently don't have a 13th forward. Probably will put Cates on IR and call up a player for the road. Don't see Deslauriers sitting. Too valuable in the room.
- MJL

You're not in the room, you can't quantify his value!!!!!1!

As long as they sell at the deadline, you add Cutter, MM and Bonk, if all hit, this is still not a contender.

With 2 firsts and 2 seconds, they can use their draft capital, trade the right players from the roster and the farm to really put the franchise on the right track. Getting stuck on making playoffs and lighting striking will not be good. Where Danny B will have to show he is the man.
- wcorvette

Why not? How can you really know this? If the Flyers injected some elite talent into this lineup, and by that I mean 1 elite forward and 1 elite defenseman, with Hart this team is a contender IMO.

And that would be the worst outcome to this. Holding onto to trade assets in the first year of the rebuild is not a good idea. They just announced less than 6 months ago they are starting a rebuild...it is these first few years that you sell ufa's and older players for picks and prospects and build the proper foundation to be a true contender. The goal is to win the cup, be a long lasting contender with multiple years of having a decent shot of winning it all. Not slipping into the playoffs and losing in the first round, resigning ufas and continuing to do what they have done for the last 15 years. The point the rebuild is in is the beginning point, where you are not pushing to make the playoffs.

I am thrilled for them to be playing well, and that no injuries have really happened yet. But I don't see them making the playoffs over NJ, NYR, Carolina, Toronto, Tampa, Florida, Boston or Detroit. They need to see the bigger picture, and not get giddy like a school girl over their current position.
- TheFreak

hold the rebuild for a chance to make the playoffs 😂 . All you can do is laugh

Giroux was a top 5 Hart trophy finalist under Hakstol. Had a 100 point season under Hakstol. Clearly, you didn't think this through.
- MJL

Points .. stats .. metrics ... when are you going to learn? You can put up all the points you want, but if you don't have heart, guts and a elite desire to win it means nothing. Let's face it, G and Jake are losers .. they have never won anything. In fact, everywhere G goes Suck follows him. Why is that? When you are going to stop blaming the GMs, coaches and other players, and look at the source of it all, G! I believe Torts would have gotten a lot more out of G and turned him into a winner.

This is completely false! I said that is what Torts thinks, not what I think. I would like DB to think big picture and sell at the deadline, however I think it will tougher for him to do so if the Flyers keep winning.
- jd250

I’m fine with the notion that winning is good for young player’s development… you need to be winning with those young guys in the lineup. I already know by playing the vets gives us a greater chance at winning a few more games… you want to impress me Torts? win with the young guys…get some guys from Lehigh up here as the year goes on and win with them…I’m not saying rush anybody, but going young is what a so called rebuilding team does.

Nd had chances prior to getting caught out there to get off, he turned back into the play, just brutal.
- wcorvette

Absolutely .. that pissed me off also. I would have benched him the rest of the game, which basically Torts did in the 3rd.

Points .. stats .. metrics ... when are you going to learn? You can put up all the points you want, but if you don't have heart, guts and an elite desire to win it means nothing. Let's face it, G and Jake are losers .. they have never won anything. In fact, everywhere G goes Suck follows him. Why is that? When you are going to stop blaming the GMs, coaches and other players, and look at the source of it all, G! I believe Torts would have gotten a lot more out of G and turned him into a winner.
- jd250

Giroux is the centerpiece of the Ottawa team?

I’m fine with the notion that winning is good for young player’s development… you need to be winning with those young guys in the lineup. I already know by playing the vets gives us a greater chance at winning a few more games… you want to impress me Torts? win with the young guys…get some guys from Lehigh up here as the year goes on and win with them…I’m not saying rush anybody, but going young is what a so called rebuilding team does.
- landros 2

If DB sells some vets at the deadline, I am sure there will be more call-ups, however lets not get ahead of ourselves. LHV is a middling team right now, and I haven't see enough from any of the defesemen there to believe they are ready for the NHL, except maybe Ginning. As far as forwards, we have seen Lyksell already and we know what Laczinsky is. I would not touch Tuomaala right now, he needs to bulk up a bit more and keep playing this year in LHV. After these 3 forwards there is really no one else ready. Even Desnoyers and Allison are playing below par right now.

Yes, but this has nothing to do with making the playoffs, this is about having a team culture and expectation of winning. If it comes down to Briere deciding between being sellers at the deadline or making the playoffs this year, I still believe the best course is to be sellers at the deadline, again as long as the right deals surface.
- jd250

Playing to win, coaching to win, playing older vets over younger players has nothing to do with making the playoffs? LOL.

Maybe at some point you'll realize that team culture and all that other nonsense is just that, nonsense. The biggest reason this team is playing better this year compared to last year is talent. The addition of a player like Couturier, who you said looks fried just yesterday. Having a player like Walker, who is a pleasant surprise and an upgrade over Ristolainen. Having Farabee healthy and playing well. That's what improves a team. What will boost this franchise even further is adding elite talent and properly developing that talent. Not culture, standards, honesty or any of that other bullpoop.

Giroux is the centerpiece of the Ottawa team?
- ClaudeFather

I don't know what the hell he is. All I know is whether in Philly, Florida or Ottawa, when G comes losing follows! No Flyers team with G on it ever played as well as this Fyers' team is playing this season. Florida last year went to the Cup finals without G, whereas the year before they got bounced in the first round and the coach got fired. This year in Ottawa there was high expectations that the team would take the next step, but instead the team is in last place in the Atlantic division and their coach is about to get fired. You tell me what he is.

genuinely hope they continue winning to become buyers. they owe it to the guys in the room.

Points .. stats .. metrics ... when are you going to learn? You can put up all the points you want, but if you don't have heart, guts and a elite desire to win it means nothing. Let's face it, G and Jake are losers .. they have never won anything. In fact, everywhere G goes Suck follows him. Why is that? When you are going to stop blaming the GMs, coaches and other players, and look at the source of it all, G! I believe Torts would have gotten a lot more out of G and turned him into a winner.
- jd250

LOL. embarrassing yourself again today I see. Giroux single handedly put the Flyers on his back one season and carried the team to the playoffs. Wayne Gretzky in his prime couldn't have turned those teams into winners. Making a fool of yourself again.

Tortorella has not won anything in 20 years!

Playing to win, coaching to win, playing older vets over younger players has nothing to do with making the playoffs? LOL.

Maybe at some point you'll realize that team culture and all that other nonsense is just that, nonsense. The biggest reason this team is playing better this year compared to last year is talent. The addition of a player like Couturier, who you said looks fried just yesterday. Having a player like Walker, who is a pleasant surprise and an upgrade over Ristolainen. Having Farabee healthy and playing well. That's what improves a team. What will boost this franchise even further is adding elite talent and properly developing that talent. Not culture, standards, honesty or any of that other bullpoop.
- MJL

Couturier had a nice game last night but he is still trying to find his game, his words, not mine. Atkinson is mired in a scoring slump right now, and Farabee is hurting this team more than helping it right now. This team is winning because they are bought into the way Torts wants them to play, they have bonded and are getting great goaltending. Torts and the players have all stated they love the locker room now, so whether you like it or not, you cannot discount how important this element is. Torts is getting the most out of this team and its high time you start giving him credit for it.

LOL. embarrassing yourself again today I see. Giroux single handedly put the Flyers on his back one season and carried the team to the playoffs. Wayne Gretzky in his prime couldn't have turned those teams into winners. Making a fool of yourself again.

Tortorella has not won anything in 20 years!

- MJL

Hmmm .. and who was the GM that put a team together that even a prime Gretzky couldn't fix?

If DB sells some vets at the deadline, I am sure there will be more call-ups, however lets not get ahead of ourselves. LHV is a middling team right now, and I haven't see enough from any of the defesemen there to believe they are ready for the NHL, except maybe Ginning. As far as forwards, we have seen Lyksell already and we know what Laczinsky is. I would not touch Tuomaala right now, he needs to bulk up a bit more and keep playing this year in LHV. After these 3 forwards there is really no one else ready. Even Desnoyers and Allison are playing below par right now.
- jd250

I’m sure you said the same things about Brink and Forrster last year…. Every guy you mentioned have improved this year… some are playing well… some of these guys are developing. I’m not saying rush anyone… but rebuilding teams create opportunities by moving out guys who don’t fit the time line…I watched LV while they played up here and thought Laczinsky was the best player on the ice… I’m hoping he gets another shot. At 26 he’s not that young, just relaying what I watched. Let’s see how this plays out… I’m simply saying that to me a flyers team winning with the vets driving the bus, is a wasted year in a rebuild.

I don't know what the hell he is. All I know is whether in Philly, Florida or Ottawa, when G comes losing follows! No Flyers team with G on it ever played as well as this Fyers' team is playing this season. Florida last year went to the Cup finals without G, whereas the year before they got bounced in the first round and the coach got fired. This year in Ottawa there was high expectations that the team would take the next step, but instead the team is in last place in the Atlantic division and their coach is about to get fired. You tell me what he is.
- jd250

He’s done nothing but perform in Ottawa. In Florida he was instrumental in them beating Washington. Did you forget that after that season they made a major trade to shake up the panthers? Or do you always just have tunnel vision?

I don't know what the hell he is. All I know is whether in Philly, Florida or Ottawa, when G comes losing follows! No Flyers team with G on it ever played as well as this Fyers' team is playing this season. Florida last year went to the Cup finals without G, whereas the year before they got bounced in the first round and the coach got fired. This year in Ottawa there was high expectations that the team would take the next step, but instead the team is in last place in the Atlantic division and their coach is about to get fired. You tell me what he is.
- jd250

You do realize the Flyers with Claude Giroux went to the Stanley Cup finals in 2010, right? No, I guess you don't know. LOL

The Flyers made the playoff a number of years under Giroux. The 17/18 team finished 3rd in the Metro and 13th overall in the NHL with 98 points. Giroux finished 4th in Hart trophy voting.

Is this team this season going to get 98 points and finish 3rd in the Metro and make the playoffs.

Making a fool of yourself again today.

genuinely hope they continue winning to become buyers. they owe it to the guys in the room.
- hello it's me 2050

me too! I heard a rumor last night, Draisaitl for Hart straight up. Would you do it right now?

With Cates injured, currently don't have a 13th forward. Probably will put Cates on IR and call up a player for the road. Don't see Deslauriers sitting. Too valuable in the room.
- MJL

I am pretty sure ND would be able to go down to the locker room from the popcorn suite in between periods so he can be good in the room. Maybe that could be a good compromise.

You do realize the Flyers with Claude Giroux went to the Stanley Cup finals in 2010, right? No, I guess you don't know. LOL

The Flyers made the playoff a number of years under Giroux. The 17/18 team finished 3rd in the Metro and 13th overall in the NHL with 98 points. Giroux finished 4th in Hart trophy voting.

Is this team this season going to get 98 points and finish 3rd in the Metro and make the playoffs.

Making a fool of yourself again today.
- MJL

G was a rookie in 2010! That team was about Pronger, Richards and Carter you dote! One of us is making a fool out himself again, and let me give you a hint, it's not me!

Couturier had a nice game last night but he is still trying to find his game, his words, not mine. Atkinson is mired in a scoring slump right now, and Farabee is hurting this team more than helping it right now. This team is winning because they are bought into the way Torts wants them to play, they have bonded and are getting great goaltending. Torts and the players have all stated they love the locker room now, so whether you like it or not, you cannot discount how important this element is. Torts is getting the most out of this team and its high time you start giving him credit for it.
- jd250

Your words were that Couturier is fried and needs to sit out. That he can't keep up with the play from the opening puck drop and can't skate. He's injured and is not right. Just the other day.

My words were that despite still not being 100% back to where he was, supported by Couturier's statement, Couturier has been playing pretty well.

Who statement is more accurate?

As far as Tortorella is concerned. Eventually you'll get hit over the head and wake up. It will take forever but you'll turn eventually. Then act like you knew it all along. It is inevitable.

G was a rookie in 2010! That team was about Pronger, Richards and Carter you dote! One of us is making a fool out himself again, and let me give you a hint, it's not me!
- jd250

Oh wow! LOL

This was your comment

"No Flyers team with G on it ever played as well as this Fyers' team is playing this season"

A rookie is not a part of the team? That rookie played 82 games for that team and was 5th in scoring on the team in the regular season. That rookie was 6th in the NHL in playoff scoring in that season with 21 points in 23 games.

Are you seriously this dense?

me too! I heard a rumor last night, Draisaitl for Hart straight up. Would you do it right now?
- jd250

Don't believe it, but ok..yes I would.

I would then let it be know Draisaitl is available and take a boatload of picks and prospects for him.

But didn't you say that goalies don't get much of a return and a second round pick is the most to expect back? So that would mean that Draisaitl is only worth a second round pick?
Sorry if I am mistaken and it was someone else commenting on Hart's worth

G was a rookie in 2010! That team was about Pronger, Richards and Carter you dote! One of us is making a fool out himself again, and let me give you a hint, it's not me!
- jd250

Did you not watch? Giroux was one of the best players on that team….

Oh wow! LOL

This was your comment

"No Flyers team with G on it ever played as well as this Fyers' team is playing this season"

A rookie is not a part of the team? That rookie was 6th in the NHL in playoff scoring in that season with 21 points in 23 games.

Are you seriously this dense?

- MJL

THEY LOST! Everywhere G goes the team loses. You can put up all the stats you want, the guy is a loser!