Look, as I told you yesterday, I'm sorry you are wrong all the time, and get embarrassed by me daily. It's not my intent to embarrass you, but you kinda bring it on yourself with your monotonous posts about what a bad coach Torts is and how the entire Flyers leadership should be fired after only 20 games into the season. You need a pretty heavy counter weight to stop you from dragging this entire forum into oblivion, and luckily for you and everyone, I'm here to be that counter balance.
- jd250

So..you're like a superhero?



COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So..you're like a superhero?



COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- TheFreak

hmmm .. come to think of it ... maybe I am

I have absolutely no faith the flyers will make the right decision come the deadline
- ClaudeFather

If this team has no intention of tanking, their plan must be to draft and develop elite players later in the draft then when they are normally taken, make player for player hockey trades in a league that almost never does those and or sign elite UFA’s that are seldom available. So basically it’s the luck plan. Making or not making the playoffs is going to have no effect on that, neither is getting a few later draft picks at the deadline.

Did you read the bold before posting?
I have followed Hart, like Sanheim, since they were both in juniors. I know Hart is a top flight goalie. But I don't think, on a proper rebuild in the first year, that he does fit into the age and timeline that the Flyers SHOULD have in front of them, and his salary would be a bit of an issue for them as the rest of the team grows and develops. We also have a strong goalie prospect base, and so we can try to offset the loss of Hart better than in other years. Ersson does not seem like too much of a step down from Hart at this point. He has adjusted well after a tough start to the season for him, including his training habits for a a player who usually plays alot, and now plays as a back up to a work horse who plays 50-60 games a year. He adapted, and is a solid option for the Flyers everytime they take the ice right now.

I just think you put it all together, and it might be the best time to move Hart for a return, especially if that is Draisaitl (doubtful)
- TheFreak

I see your point and I like Ersson, but Ersson has never been the guy yet, so I am reluctant to give up Hart who has been the guy in WJCs and now for the Flyers. If the Flyers were ripping this thing down to the studs then yes, I would agree that the timeline does not fit. But the Flyers have good players and good pieces coming up, thus I think Hart's timeline fits right now.

So..you're like a superhero?



COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- TheFreak

That's in line with the fantasy world that he lives in.

I see your point and I like Ersson, but Ersson has never been the guy yet, so I am reluctant to give up Hart who has been the guy in WJCs and now for the Flyers. If the Flyers were ripping this thing down to the studs then yes, I would agree that the timeline does not fit. But the Flyers have good players and good pieces coming up, thus I think Hart's timeline fits right now.
- jd250

That's the whole point of a rebuild. To draft and develop players who have never been the guy yet. Gauthier and Michkov have never been the guy yet. Should they not rely on them moving forward?

If this team has no intention of tanking, their plan must be to draft and develop elite players later in the draft then when they are normally taken, make player for player hockey trades in a league that almost never does those and or sign elite UFA’s that are seldom available. So basically it’s the luck plan. Making or not making the playoffs is going to have no effect on that, neither is getting a few later draft picks at the deadline.
- psuhockey

I think a lot of has to deal with the perceived strength of the draft in that year. This draft coming up does not have projected elite talent, so perhaps the Flyers brass feels it's not worth tanking for. I mean, lets face it, if the Flyers didn't try to tank for last year's draft, why would they even consider it this year? Instead I think it's quite possible the Flyers feel they can get a similar player picking anywhere in the top 15. And with two first round picks and plenty of younger players, if they wanted to move up in the draft to target a player, they could.

That's the whole point of a rebuild. To draft and develop players who have never been the guy yet. Gauthier and Michkov have never been the guy yet. Should they not rely on them moving forward?
- MJL

Look, the adults are talking! I'm am referring to goalies, not forwards. Try to follow along ...

And just to level set everyone, Gauthier is a nice player and noticeable just about every time he is on the ice. I think he has a good chance to be a good player for the Flyers, but I have not seen anything that makes me think he is or will be elite. I think right now, Michkov has the best chance of achieving eliteness, but even that is a long ways off.

Look, the adults are talking! I'm am referring to goalies, not forwards. Try to follow along ...


- jd250

Oh so when you posted if the Flyers were ripping this down to the studs, that was only referring to goalies? How about when you said they have good players and pieces coming up. That was just about goalies? You pointed out the scope there.

And just to level set everyone, Gauthier is a nice player and noticeable just about every time he is on the ice. I think he has a good chance to be a good player for the Flyers, but I have not seen anything that makes me think he is or will be elite. I think right now, Michkov has the best chance of achieving eliteness, but even that is a long ways off.
- jd250

We have your history and track record of player evaluation. Even with players on BC when you labeled O'Brien as "having the goods". Rendering what is already known. That your post here is completely unreliable and irrelevant.

I see your point and I like Ersson, but Ersson has never been the guy yet, so I am reluctant to give up Hart who has been the guy in WJCs and now for the Flyers. If the Flyers were ripping this thing down to the studs then yes, I would agree that the timeline does not fit. But the Flyers have good players and good pieces coming up, thus I think Hart's timeline fits right now.
- jd250

Ersson played for Sweden at the WJC’s in 2019 and was 4-1.

Ersson played for Sweden at the WJC’s in 2019 and was 4-1.
- psuhockey

You don't say? Spin in 3-2-1.

Ersson played for Sweden at the WJC’s in 2019 and was 4-1.
- psuhockey

Didn't he play as a pro in the Swedish Hockey league for a couple of years as well? He has a very good resume to this point, both as a pro and international play.

3 years in the SHL,parts of 2 seasons in the AHL

so 4 real seasons of pro hockey already.

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/292581/samuel-ersson

I think a lot of has to deal with the perceived strength of the draft in that year. This draft coming up does not have projected elite talent, so perhaps the Flyers brass feels it's not worth tanking for. I mean, let’s face it, if the Flyers didn't try to tank for last year's draft, why would they even consider it this year? Instead I think it's quite possible the Flyers feel they can get a similar player picking anywhere in the top 15. And with two first round picks and plenty of younger players, if they wanted to move up in the draft to target a player, they could.
- jd250

Everyone in management has said they won’t tank period, not just in down draft years.

How many trades have involved moving up into the top 10 in the last ten years? It’s something that doesn’t happen with any regularity just like trading for a in their prime #1 center or #1 defenseman. If that is the plan it’s just as likely to succeed as buying lottery tickets.

Provide one source that claims that Couturier is injured?

Just another fallacy that you can't support. Pure fantasy. All of the available factual information shows that your comments on Couturier are completely unfounded and unsupported.
- MJL

you yourself have said he is not 100% yet have you not? When asked to provide any documentation nothing but crickets.

Everyone in management has said they won’t tank period, not just in down draft years.

How many trades have involved moving up into the top 10 in the last ten years? It’s something that doesn’t happen with any regularity just like trading for a in their prime #1 center or #1 defenseman. If that is the plan it’s just as likely to succeed as buying lottery tickets.
- psuhockey

No doubt about it. Any approach other than a focus on drafting and developing is a pipe dream in reality.

If I was a Pens fan, I'd be concerned about Malkin. He is a shadow of himself. The Pens are a one line team with a shockingly bad PP.
- MJL

averaged over a ppg last season. slightly below this season. yeah a shadow of himself.

He’s done nothing but perform in Ottawa. In Florida he was instrumental in them beating Washington. Did you forget that after that season they made a major trade to shake up the panthers? Or do you always just have tunnel vision?
- ClaudeFather

I don't think you should have used the word tunnel

If this team has no intention of tanking, their plan must be to draft and develop elite players later in the draft then when they are normally taken, make player for player hockey trades in a league that almost never does those and or sign elite UFA’s that are seldom available. So basically it’s the luck plan. Making or not making the playoffs is going to have no effect on that, neither is getting a few later draft picks at the deadline.
- psuhockey

we shall see what type of GM danny boy is in the Next 2 months. Is he a forward thinking one or an in the moment one?

For all the venom we have over how Deslauriers is used maybe look at his mins...
hes averaging 8 mins a night the last four games and played as little as 6:30 two games ago. you really want a young guy brought up to play 8 mins on the 4th line? i think your argument really is what top 9 forward can they bump down to be replaced by a kid. Obvious answer is Laughton, but he produces offense while playing wing. Not really shocked his numbers have suffered while playing center. Should they trade him to make room for a kid? Maybe. This team has more goals from kids 24 and younger. Not buying they are playing vets over kids these days. Also, it's pretty clear Zamula needs to have his hand held right now and still can't play every night. People are always complaining that the Flyers farm and their org in general can't develop players and there is some truth to that. However, dressing all kids would be an example of mismanaging youth. We all agree the Deslauriers contract term was terrible, but thats not DBs fault. He's got a mess to clean up from the last two gms and its gonna take a while.

For all the venom we have over how Deslauriers is used maybe look at his mins...
hes averaging 8 mins a night the last four games and played as little as 6:30 two games ago. you really want a young guy brought up to play 8 mins on the 4th line? i think your argument really is what top 9 forward can they bump down to be replaced by a kid. Obvious answer is Laughton, but he produces offense while playing wing. Not really shocked his numbers have suffered while playing center. Should they trade him to make room for a kid? Maybe. This team has more goals from kids 24 and younger. Not buying they are playing vets over kids these days. Also, it's pretty clear Zamula needs to have his hand held right now and still can't play every night. People are always complaining that the Flyers farm and their org in general can't develop players and there is some truth to that. However, dressing all kids would be an example of mismanaging youth. We all agree the Deslauriers contract term was terrible, but thats not DBs fault. He's got a mess to clean up from the last two gms and its gonna take a while.
- 26912 PP1

Why can’t you call up a kid and give the fourth line more minutes with competent players making up the trio? I’m not even saying it has to be a kid. But call up a real player instead of the goon. That’s all people want. Totally disagree on zamula.

Didn't he play as a pro in the Swedish Hockey league for a couple of years as well? He has a very good resume to this point, both as a pro and international play.

3 years in the SHL,parts of 2 seasons in the AHL

so 4 real seasons of pro hockey already.

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/292581/samuel-ersson
- TheFreak

great goalie prospect, but dont want him backing up. he needs to be 1B goalie.

For all the venom we have over how Deslauriers is used maybe look at his mins...
hes averaging 8 mins a night the last four games and played as little as 6:30 two games ago. you really want a young guy brought up to play 8 mins on the 4th line? i think your argument really is what top 9 forward can they bump down to be replaced by a kid. Obvious answer is Laughton, but he produces offense while playing wing. Not really shocked his numbers have suffered while playing center. Should they trade him to make room for a kid? Maybe. This team has more goals from kids 24 and younger. Not buying they are playing vets over kids these days. Also, it's pretty clear Zamula needs to have his hand held right now and still can't play every night. People are always complaining that the Flyers farm and their org in general can't develop players and there is some truth to that. However, dressing all kids would be an example of mismanaging youth. We all agree the Deslauriers contract term was terrible, but thats not DBs fault. He's got a mess to clean up from the last two gms and its gonna take a while.
- 26912 PP1

It's absolutely false that Zamula needs his hand held and can't play every night. The evidence clearly shows that he is better than Staal. By signing Staal and not playing Zamula. They're adding to the mess. If Cates wasnt injured, which young player would be scratched and yoed-yoed in and out of the lineup?

This roster has enough of a veteran presence to allow all NHL ready young players to play. It would not be mismanaging youth.

For all the venom we have over how Deslauriers is used maybe look at his mins...
hes averaging 8 mins a night the last four games and played as little as 6:30 two games ago. you really want a young guy brought up to play 8 mins on the 4th line? i think your argument really is what top 9 forward can they bump down to be replaced by a kid. Obvious answer is Laughton, but he produces offense while playing wing. Not really shocked his numbers have suffered while playing center. Should they trade him to make room for a kid? Maybe. This team has more goals from kids 24 and younger. Not buying they are playing vets over kids these days. Also, it's pretty clear Zamula needs to have his hand held right now and still can't play every night. People are always complaining that the Flyers farm and their org in general can't develop players and there is some truth to that. However, dressing all kids would be an example of mismanaging youth. We all agree the Deslauriers contract term was terrible, but thats not DBs fault. He's got a mess to clean up from the last two gms and its gonna take a while.
- 26912 PP1

Don't disagree on some of the above but with ND, that line could do better with a younger more skilled player. You ever think the 8 minutes is because ND can't be given more minutes? You could put Allison or Tanner L on that wing. You could have Ryan P, Hathaway and Allison/Tanner L. It is not just about the callup, it is about seeing what Ryan P can do, getting full value from Hathaway, ND limits that idea.

hmmm .. come to think of it ... maybe I am
- jd250

Handi Man, is that you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkQQGsOegv0

Am I the only Flyers fan who needs mood stabilizers and other meds just to keep me off the roller coaster? HI’s to low’s to apathy rinse repeat year in and year out. Aggressive retool yay! WTF, there was no retool? Oh finally a rebuild. Yes this is a rebuild. Wait, this ain’t no rebuild. Yes they’re gonna play the kids. Free Frosty! Free Z! Foerester isn’t scoring. Wow Foerester’s en fuego! Trade Hart! Did Hart just steal another game? Can’t trade Hart! ND sucks, although he leveled Malking last night. Sanheim sucks trade him for nothing. Wait he’s good. Now he’s not because he’s getting too much playing time. Torts sucks. Torts gets the most out of his players. We want to win. We want a better draft pick. Maybe we can make the playoffs. We can’t beat the good teams in a series. My head is spinning.

Regardless. How satisfying is it to win a home and home against the penguins?