26912 PP1
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It's absolutely false that Zamula needs his hand held and can't play every night. The evidence clearly shows that he is better than Staal. By signing Staal and not playing Zamula. They're adding to the mess. If Cates wasnt injured, which young player would be scratched and yoed-yoed in and out of the lineup?
This roster has enough of a veteran presence to allow all NHL ready young players to play. It would not be mismanaging youth. - MJL i would not have signed Staal, but would not play Zamula every night. He can't handle it right now. Rather he platoon w a journeyman dman from LV. Give Z 55 games or whatever. I would not scratch Frost. I would move Cates to the wing for 10 games and then scratch him if no improvement after he returns. The problem is that leaves Laughton at center where he clearly doesnt belong. Also did fans really think no one was going to get hurt? Did you think we were going to go through the fall and winter and no one was going to get hurt. Now we are sore that Frost is seeing pt cause of the injury..? Who effing cares. He now has a chance to perform and he needs to do that. We need him to perform as we have no other playmaker in the middle anywhere, I can say that his first game after Cates got hurt, Frost needed to have a statement game and he stunk up the joint. He needs to show he is taking advantage of this opp. He performed last yr under 0 expectations and played every night. Now hes under the spotlight and needs to perform.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Am I the only Flyers fan who needs mood stabilizers and other meds just to keep me off the roller coaster? HI’s to low’s to apathy rinse repeat year in and year out. Aggressive retool yay! WTF, there was no retool? Oh finally a rebuild. Yes this is a rebuild. Wait, this ain’t no rebuild. Yes they’re gonna play the kids. Free Frosty! Free Z! Foerester isn’t scoring. Wow Foerester’s en fuego! Trade Hart! Did Hart just steal another game? Can’t trade Hart! ND sucks, although he leveled Malking last night. Sanheim sucks trade him for nothing. Wait he’s good. Now he’s not because he’s getting too much playing time. Torts sucks. Torts gets the most out of his players. We want to win. We want a better draft pick. Maybe we can make the playoffs. We can’t beat the good teams in a series. My head is spinning.
Regardless. How satisfying is it to win a home and home against the penguins? - mikeyo27
I hear you. How satisfying is it to win a home and home against the Pens. Not very. I've evolved past that. I'm no longer in a place where "mini cups" cut it. Like when the Eagles sucked and if they beat the Cowboys, plan the parade. No thanks. I want more. I see where this team is headed and what the limitations are going to be and it doesn't cut it for me.
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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Don't disagree on some of the above but with ND, that line could do better with a younger more skilled player. You ever think the 8 minutes is because ND can't be given more minutes? You could put Allison or Tanner L on that wing. You could have Ryan P, Hathaway and Allison/Tanner L. It is not just about the callup, it is about seeing what Ryan P can do, getting full value from Hathaway, ND limits that idea. - wcorvette
I’m sure I’m on an island with my line of thinking but I believe the fourth line is meant for role players. So depending on what your definition of “skill” is, I prefer players who can handle minimal minutes but still serve a purpose. In my mind, the last time the Flyers had a 4th line worth complimenting, Betts, Laperriere and Powe were on it and you could insert Carcillo if one got hurt. I wouldn’t call these guys skilled players but they could grind. They could kill penalties. They could win you faceoffs. In other sports such as basketball for example, you have guys who only block shots. Only rebound. Only steal. I’m not making an argument for Nick D to play on the fourth line. We shouldn’t have offered another Jody Shelley contract to anyone just to fight but I do think Nick D can fill in if someone gets hurt as a warm body. I don’t know how realistic it is to waste a skilled youngster on the fourth line when they can get minutes in the minors. That’s just me. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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i would not have signed Staal, but would not play Zamula every night. He can't handle it right now. Rather he platoon w a journeyman dman from LV. Give Z 55 games or whatever. I would not scratch Frost. I would move Cates to the wing for 10 games and then scratch him if no improvement after he returns. The problem is that leaves Laughton at center where he clearly doesnt belong. Also did fans really think no one was going to get hurt? Did you think we were going to go through the fall and winter and no one was going to get hurt. Now we are sore that Frost is seeing pt cause of the injury..? Who effing cares. He now has a chance to perform and he needs to do that. We need him to perform as we have no other playmaker in the middle anywhere, I can say that his first game after Cates got hurt, Frost needed to have a statement game and he stunk up the joint. He needs to show he is taking advantage of this opp. He performed last yr under 0 expectations and played every night. Now hes under the spotlight and needs to perform. - 26912 PP1
Why can't Zamula handle it right now?
Who cares? Why wasn't Frost given a chance to perform all season? That matters and if it's not Frost and Staal versus Zamula. It would be the same situation with other players. That's what this organization has to get out of.
It is unreasonable to have an expectation with a young player who has been scratched for half the games to have to have a statement game because another player got injured.
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26912 PP1
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Don't disagree on some of the above but with ND, that line could do better with a younger more skilled player. You ever think the 8 minutes is because ND can't be given more minutes? You could put Allison or Tanner L on that wing. You could have Ryan P, Hathaway and Allison/Tanner L. It is not just about the callup, it is about seeing what Ryan P can do, getting full value from Hathaway, ND limits that idea. - wcorvette 100% on Allison in the beg of the year, but he did not exactly handle the demotion all that well and remember no one else in the league wanted him. He was lost for a few weeks after he got sent down. Getting better of late. If he continues to play a little better, then yes, call him up and bench the resident whipping boy. Would love a - playing up to his potential Allison - on that line with with out DL.
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26912 PP1
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Why can't Zamula handle it right now?
Who cares? Why wasn't Frost given a chance to perform all season? That matters and if it's not Frost and Staal versus Zamula. It would be the same situation with other players. That's what this organization has to get out of.
It is unreasonable to have an expectation with a young player who has been scratched for half the games to have to have a statement game because another player got injured. - MJL tell me you have watched him in person and you think hes engaged every night? tell me that?
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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tell me you have watched him in person and you think hes engaged every night? tell me that? - 26912 PP1
You answer the question I asked first. Then we'll look at the facts. Then we'll answer your questions.
You're wrong about Zamula and I'll prove that after you answer. |
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We can talk smack on the Flyers' PP, and rightfully so, but man it's inexcusable how bad the Pens were on their opportunities. |
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The team with most talent doesn’t always win. NJ has to learn how to put it all together. If they do they could be special. - landros 2
Devils need to get healthy. Nicole was out for awhile. Who knows how long Doogie will be out for? |
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Peter Richards
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Joined: 08.24.2019
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averaged over a ppg last season. slightly below this season. yeah a shadow of himself. - hello it's me 2050
Why use facts? |
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mr4tno
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Location: PA Joined: 06.29.2017
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They might be…but if Briere is smart he sell’s high on some assets…this is where it becomes tough for DB….is it a mirage? Personally I think they are what we see but, I still think and hope he sells between this morning and the deadline. Don’t by the BS some spew about there being no market.…there’s always a market when you have teams looking to buy and teams willing to sell. - landros 2
ND was exhausted from extending every one of his shifts.... |
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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ND was exhausted from extending every one of his shifts.... - mr4tno
God forbid they sit him for a game |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Ersson played for Sweden at the WJC’s in 2019 and was 4-1. - psuhockey
good point! I like Ersson, I just like Hart more right now.
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jd250
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We have your history and track record of player evaluation. Even with players on BC when you labeled O'Brien as "having the goods". Rendering what is already known. That your post here is completely unreliable and irrelevant. - MJL
O'Brien got hurt and it derailed his development, that is just a fact. Again, I'm sorry you are wrong all the time. Stop lashing out at me out of your frustration.
Now, speaking of player evaluation, how did your boys Farabee and Frost look last night? Certainly did not look like top line players to me, but .. oh .. that's right, I don't know how to evaluate players. You are such a fraud! |
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jd250
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You don't say? Spin in 3-2-1. - MJL
Its official, MJL is nothing more than a troll. |
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jd250
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Everyone in management has said they won’t tank period, not just in down draft years.
How many trades have involved moving up into the top 10 in the last ten years? It’s something that doesn’t happen with any regularity just like trading for a in their prime #1 center or #1 defenseman. If that is the plan it’s just as likely to succeed as buying lottery tickets. - psuhockey
Certainly was not happening last year. This draft you may see some teams trade down. |
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jd250
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averaged over a ppg last season. slightly below this season. yeah a shadow of himself. - hello it's me 2050
Hey, you cannot argue with MJL, his player evaluation is above reproach! |
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jd250
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It's absolutely false that Zamula needs his hand held and can't play every night. The evidence clearly shows that he is better than Staal. By signing Staal and not playing Zamula. They're adding to the mess. If Cates wasnt injured, which young player would be scratched and yoed-yoed in and out of the lineup?
This roster has enough of a veteran presence to allow all NHL ready young players to play. It would not be mismanaging youth. - MJL
![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) Based on what, you player evaluation form? You make these statements as if they are facts. Show me the evidence that clearly shows Zamula is already a better NHL defenseman than Marc Staal. |
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wcorvette
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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bradster
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Joined: 12.18.2009
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Its official, MJL is nothing more than a troll. - jd250
He proves that everyday
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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TK is playing like an ‘elite’ player.
*Goes and gets popcorn to see incoming slander and name calling. - coffee junkie
Torts is really making these guys increase their trade value |
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Torts is really making these guys increase their trade value - 2Real
agree staal should be in demand. |
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We can talk smack on the Flyers' PP, and rightfully so, but man it's inexcusable how bad the Pens were on their opportunities. - Pelle31Forever
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Angus4444
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I hear you. How satisfying is it to win a home and home against the Pens. Not very. I've evolved past that. I'm no longer in a place where "mini cups" cut it. Like when the Eagles sucked and if they beat the Cowboys, plan the parade. No thanks. I want more. I see where this team is headed and what the limitations are going to be and it doesn't cut it for me. - MJL
This is Torts team now and might well be for a few more years. To come on here and whine 24/7 about who’s sitting, who’s playing etc is getting old . Typing Frost and Zamula need to play, we frickin get it. You even said it yourself, this could take years. Find another team, you might not be so negative and miserable every single day on here. |
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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Bill, any info or insight as to a contract extension for Cahtah Haht? |
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