The Leafs need to add to their defense, not swap out a better player for a lesser player plus give up picks. Brodie I'd a significantly better player than Ristolainen is. Ristolainen at this point is a 3rd pair defenseman that is the 5th best defenseman on a team with a mediocre at best defense corps. If they would take the full contract and give us a 3rd. You say Hallelijiah, say yes as quick as possible and head to church because a miracle just happened.
- MJL

Admittedly I have not watched Brodie almost at all. So I will take your word for it. He just had a similar AAV.

I am not interested in the Flyers retaining on Risto. They need to save those two slots to make moves at the deadline over the next 2-3 seasons.

Jonesy would rather resign than let Danny boy trade Risto with retention.

Any chance the team give Couturier the "A" they stripped off his jersey back as a birthday present?

Jonesy would rather resign than let Danny boy trade Risto with retention.

Any chance the team give Couturier the "A" they stripped off his jersey back as a birthday present?
- Feanor

If TOR does make an ask for Risto, it means that they swung and missed on a few other players. Probably closer to the deadline. That seemingly puts us in the driver's seat. It would be interesting to see how DB plays it. I think you definitely move Risto if given an offer with NO salary retention.

Of course, the company line right now needs to be No, we are not trading Risto. He is a valuable member of the org and under contract. Until Torts screws it up and starts female dogign about his lack of d...

Did he scratch the dinasour Staal? He watched 👀 the Coyotes tape 📼 and found out their youngsters are roadrunners

Did he scratch the dinasour Staal? He watched 👀 the Coyotes tape 📼 and found out their youngsters are roadrunners
- THE EVIL WITHIN

are the coyotes that much faster than NJ or the Canes?

This team tanks by moving out Hart, Konecny, Laughton, Walker, Seeler and now Ristolainen while filling in with AHL level defensemen and prospect forwards. Basically what Chicago did last season.
- psuhockey

I think Ersson is still a pretty good goalie. Like I said though, you tank, you drag down the development of young players you’re trying to make better right now. So which is it? Lose games or drag down the players were trying to develop?

A rebuild prioritizes maximizing value for the future.

The Flyers constantly make excuses to not do it. They can replace Laughton, and Walker anytime. Konecny as well.

It would just mean they maybe lose a few more games, but a higher chance at Connor Bedard isn’t worth it.

I’m just wondering who is still stupid enough to believe the rebuild nonsense. Maybe those who cheer for Tortorella as the face of a franchise in 2023.
- FlyerFan3260

I think a rebuild and tanking are two different things. I wouldn’t trade Morgan Frost, Owen Tippett, Cam York or Joel Farabee unless the return is too good to pass up. I also put Carter Hart on this list. I want a decent team here not only when Michkov is ready but when Cutter Gauthier is ready and he should be here a lot sooner. With this said I would trade Travis Konency and Sean Walker to add to our crop of young players and picks coming up in the 2024 draft. We have two picks in the first round already, yes?

I think Ersson is still a pretty good goalie. Like I said though, you tank, you drag down the development of young players you’re trying to make better right now. So which is it? Lose games or drag down the players were trying to develop?
- roenick97

That’s a fine theory but you aren’t going to find Stanley cup winners in the last 10 years that haven’t been terrible enough to draft in the top 5. Why didn’t their players fall apart because of a losing season or multiple losing seasons?

I think a rebuild and tanking are two different things. I wouldn’t trade Morgan Frost, Owen Tippett, Cam York or Joel Farabee unless the return is too good to pass up. I also put Carter Hart on this list. I want a decent team here not only when Michkov is ready but when Cutter Gauthier is ready and he should be here a lot sooner. With this said I would trade Travis Konency and Sean Walker to add to our crop of young players and picks coming up in the 2024 draft. We have two picks in the first round already, yes?
- roenick97

agree those you look to trade over the next two years.

Seeler, walker, stall, atkinson, laughton, tk, coots, risto, hathaway.

but only think half of the list or less will actually be traded.

I think Ersson is still a pretty good goalie. Like I said though, you tank, you drag down the development of young players you’re trying to make better right now. So which is it? Lose games or drag down the players were trying to develop?
- roenick97

I AM AOK with Torts and the team trying to win, if they are still in the hunt at playoff time, I am ok them trying to get in. What I want to see is for them to play the Zamula's, play the Lycksells, sit the ND's. That way they can trade a roster player like Ryan P or Seeler etc. Even if in the hunt, if an overpay is there for any of the roster players, that will help build a contender for years to come take it. TK is an example, I keep him unless blown away, but if blown away pull the trigger.

It is a small needle to thread, they can't do it by playing aging vets, between now and deadline they need to play the kids as much as they play the vets, not to tank but so they experience and Torsts knows they are NHL players, that is the only way to trade out a Seeler and know you have a comparable replacement, one who the team can still say, we can win, we can make the playoffs.

I don’t know how to respond to these comments outside of this team is not going to actively tank. I can’t remember the last time a team actively tanked outside of Chicago last year but it didn’t matter because they weren’t dead last in their efforts and the league still gifted them the first overall pick, probably because that’s exactly where they wanted Bedard to be.

I’m not a tank guy. I’m a get the best possible return guy and let the chips fall where they may type of guy.

I think the first overall picks with the brightest futures go where they league wants them to go.

I think a rebuild and tanking are two different things. I wouldn’t trade Morgan Frost, Owen Tippett, Cam York or Joel Farabee unless the return is too good to pass up. I also put Carter Hart on this list. I want a decent team here not only when Michkov is ready but when Cutter Gauthier is ready and he should be here a lot sooner. With this said I would trade Travis Konency and Sean Walker to add to our crop of young players and picks coming up in the 2024 draft. We have two picks in the first round already, yes?
- roenick97

Huh? You want a decent team here but then you want to trade TK? TK IMO is the future captain of this team! If a team offers the Flyers a 1st round pick for Walker, which I think some team will, the Flyers will trade Walker, but they might resign him in the off season and why not, he has proven to be a good RHS defenseman.

The Leafs need to add to their defense, not swap out a better player for a lesser player plus give up picks. Brodie I'd a significantly better player than Ristolainen is. Ristolainen at this point is a 3rd pair defenseman that is the 5th best defenseman on a team with a mediocre at best defense corps. If they would take the full contract and give us a 3rd. You say Hallelijiah, say yes as quick as possible and head to church because a miracle just happened.
- MJL

I'm not going here with you today. You know damn well that Risto is the Flyers best defenseman. Toronto does not have enough to pry Risto from the Flyers.

I AM AOK with Torts and the team trying to win, if they are still in the hunt at playoff time, I am ok them trying to get in. What I want to see is for them to play the Zamula's, play the Lycksells, sit the ND's. That way they can trade a roster player like Ryan P or Seeler etc. Even if in the hunt, if an overpay is there for any of the roster players, that will help build a contender for years to come take it. TK is an example, I keep him unless blown away, but if blown away pull the trigger.

It is a small needle to thread, they can't do it by playing aging vets, between now and deadline they need to play the kids as much as they play the vets, not to tank but so they experience and Torsts knows they are NHL players, that is the only way to trade out a Seeler and know you have a comparable replacement, one who the team can still say, we can win, we can make the playoffs.
- wcorvette

As long as they are winning by playing their younger players, and that means keeping Frost in the lineup and getting Zamula a good amount of games also, I am fine with it. I am really enjoying have a hockey season for the first time in 3 years.

Did he scratch the dinasour Staal? He watched 👀 the Coyotes tape 📼 and found out their youngsters are roadrunners
- THE EVIL WITHIN

It was a triumvirate decision

Huh? You want a decent team here but then you want to trade TK? TK IMO is the future captain of this team! If a team offers the Flyers a 1st round pick for Walker, which I think some team will, the Flyers will trade Walker, but they might resign him in the off season and why not, he has proven to be a good RHS defenseman.
- jd250

God it physically hurts explaining things to you. Michkov won’t be here for 3 full years. Konency is the best he’ll ever be probably right now. Hints what…? I’ll allow you to think this over.

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Huh? You want a decent team here but then you want to trade TK? TK IMO is the future captain of this team! If a team offers the Flyers a 1st round pick for Walker, which I think some team will, the Flyers will trade Walker, but they might resign him in the off season and why not, he has proven to be a good RHS defenseman.
- jd250

yeah that happens so often.

another smart move is too sign the future captain for 8 years at 8 million plus. go flyers.

I'm not going here with you today. You know damn well that Risto is the Flyers best defenseman. Toronto does not have enough to pry Risto from the Flyers.
- jd250

lets set the record straight, do yo really believe this to be the case?

lets set the record straight, do yo really believe this to be the case?
- hello it's me 2050

I think he’s half kidding. Risto had a pretty steady year last year, but he’s at best a second pair guy…he as some skill, skates well and is a decent puck mover…he’s big, he plays physical and is a RH, which seems to be more coveted these days. Now as we’ve witnessed he can be prone to some poor defensive play at times.
With the cap going up I’m not sure he’s that over paid. On the Flyers last year I’m not sure anyone other then Provy had a more respectable year…that might not be saying much though.

Huh? You want a decent team here but then you want to trade TK? TK IMO is the future captain of this team! If a team offers the Flyers a 1st round pick for Walker, which I think some team will, the Flyers will trade Walker, but they might resign him in the off season and why not, he has proven to be a good RHS defenseman.
- jd250

I'll readily admit that I didn't have high hopes for Walker. I did not think he was going to be a good player but he has had a strong season. He has shown himself to be a much better player than Ristolainen and is an example of why you don't make trades for players like Ristolainen.

I'm not going here with you today. You know damn well that Risto is the Flyers best defenseman. Toronto does not have enough to pry Risto from the Flyers.
- jd250

I was generous giving him the 5th slot.

I'll readily admit that I didn't have high hopes for Walker. I did not think he was going to be a good player but he has had a strong season. He has shown himself to be a much better player than Ristolainen and is an example of why you don't make trades for players like Ristolainen.
- MJL

you never saw him play is why you had no expectations. Knew nothing about walker

Liam Foudy on waivers. Any interests in a claim?

It was a triumvirate decision
- funmaster18

Great to see zamula back in. Regardless I think we’re going to get schooled tonight if zona comes out with the same effort they did vs wash. They were just flying.

If a team offers the Flyers a 1st round pick for Walker, which I think some team will, the Flyers will trade Walker, but they might resign him in the off season and why not, he has proven to be a good RHS defenseman.
- jd250

Ok, I highly doubt he will get a first rounder back, a second might be too much. If a team gives up a first, are they really letting him walk? A first seems like they plan to resign him, and if you were Walker? sign with the rebuilding Flyers, or with a playoff team that just traded a first for you? I think he would resign with the new team.

The Leafs need to add to their defense, not swap out a better player for a lesser player plus give up picks. Brodie I'd a significantly better player than Ristolainen is. Ristolainen at this point is a 3rd pair defenseman that is the 5th best defenseman on a team with a mediocre at best defense corps. If they would take the full contract and give us a 3rd. You say Hallelijiah, say yes as quick as possible and head to church because a miracle just happened.
- MJL

Ristolainen isn’t our best defenseman but was very steady last season. He played under control and seems to be trending the same way this season, as his season has just began. No credit for this? He’s just bad and will always be bad?