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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 7 @ 11:00 PM ET
As a player that does not know when to pass and when to shoot. On that play, he should have immediately fired that puck lower blocker side knowing the goalie had to come across. I understand Frost is a playmaker, but he needs to shoot the puck there.
- jd250


First of all, he did shoot the puck. I agree I'd rather have seen his shoot it right away on the forehand but I don't know if the puck bounced on him or what as to why he didn't shoot right away. Your opening statement of he doesn't know when to pass or shoot is just more hyperbole.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 7 @ 11:02 PM ET
York, damn! 😳
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 11:04 PM ET
let me explain it to you. You extend TK and give him the 'C'!! Why trade away a proven player that has tons more to give to the team??
- jd250

You move him to get a young prospect top 4 defenseman to accelerate the rebuild and to not tie up capspace on a winger on a team without centers and defense that isn’t competing for a few years.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 7 @ 11:06 PM ET
I just noticed Frost, he carried the puck and tried to cut through two Coyotes and turned the puck over.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 7 @ 11:09 PM ET
I just noticed Frost, he carried the puck and tried to cut through two Coyotes and turned the puck over.
- jd250


Oh my gosh, did he? Bench him!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Dec 7 @ 11:19 PM ET
Oh my gosh, did he? Bench him!
- MJL


The good news is that Frosty still has 1 more point than Belpedio and 2 more points than ND, so I think he's safe in the lineup for now
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 7 @ 11:22 PM ET
Impressive road game. Coyotes totally shut down after they have been unbeatable lately.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Dec 7 @ 11:24 PM ET
I think Zamula has played a very good game- really composed.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 7 @ 11:25 PM ET
Oh my gosh, did he? Bench him!
- MJL

Don't temp Torts
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 7 @ 11:25 PM ET
I think Zamula has played a very good game- really composed.
- Trox88

Yes, I was going to post the same thing, he and Risto make a good pairing.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 7 @ 11:26 PM ET
The good news is that Frosty still has 1 more point than Belpedio and 2 more points than ND, so I think he's safe in the lineup for now
- Don Nachbaur

Yes, but ND just got his 100th point tonight ..
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 7 @ 11:27 PM ET
You move him to get a young prospect top 4 defenseman to accelerate the rebuild and to not tie up capspace on a winger on a team without centers and defense that isn’t competing for a few years.
- psuhockey

You could, or you could extend TK and sign a top 4 defenseman, or trade for one. It does not have to come from the draft.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Dec 7 @ 11:27 PM ET
Yes, I was going to post the same thing, he and Risto make a good pairing.
- jd250


They played Zamula over 17 minutes- well deserved
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Dec 7 @ 11:28 PM ET
I think Zamula has played a very good game- really composed.
- Trox88


Agreed! Great seeing him have a good game! Hopefully Torts will recognize this and play him again on Saturday.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Dec 7 @ 11:31 PM ET
Yes, but ND just got his 100th point tonight ..
- jd250


Yes, that's huge! He will never sit now!
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Dec 7 @ 11:31 PM ET
TK on pace to get 40 after a 30 goal- seems like a dude they may want to extend.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 7 @ 11:33 PM ET
Yes, I was going to post the same thing, he and Risto make a good pairing.
- jd250


Zamula had a solid game. Good win vs what had been a hot team. Idiots have to stop playing well or we’ll have to trade them all.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 7 @ 11:34 PM ET
TK on pace to get 40 after a 30 goal- seems like a dude they may want to extend.
- Trox88


Absolutely not. He has to go so we can start the 10 year rebuild asap.

Seriously though. He’s been fantastic this year. Keep playing all the kids along with our younger vets. I’d be keeping him
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Dec 7 @ 11:35 PM ET
Zamula had a solid game. Good win vs what had been a hot team. Idiots have to stop playing well or we’ll have to trade them all.
- Hextall271


Most of the young guys are turning out not to be stiffs.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 7 @ 11:38 PM ET
You could, or you could extend TK and sign a top 4 defenseman, or trade for one. It does not have to come from the draft.
- jd250


I still can’t see them making the playoffs and if they don’t, try your best to get another first. Draft dmen at the draft and we could also see if we can flip some prospects/ younger players to get a top 4 d although they are rare. Hedge your bet by drafting and trading.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 7 @ 11:39 PM ET
First of all, he did shoot the puck. I agree I'd rather have seen his shoot it right away on the forehand but I don't know if the puck bounced on him or what as to why he didn't shoot right away. Your opening statement of he doesn't know when to pass or shoot is just more hyperbole.
- MJL

See, I like it when you respond like this. We can have a conversation. I don't mean it to be hyperbole, I just mean Frost is a playmaker which means he always seems to be looking to make the pass. He has got to be more selfish, especially when on that play he was the one being set up by Foerster instead of the other way around.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 7 @ 11:40 PM ET
Most of the young guys are turning out not to be stiffs.
- Trox88


That’s a good thing. If mm and gauthier pan out then try to get some d. Looks like we have two solid tenders as well.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 7 @ 11:43 PM ET
I still can’t see them making the playoffs and if they don’t, try your best to get another first. Draft dmen at the draft and we could also see if we can flip some prospects/ younger players to get a top 4 d although they are rare. Hedge your bet by drafting and trading.
- Hextall271

The Flyers have two 1sts and two 2nds this year. I suspect they will get a late 1st round pick for Walker, otherwise they will keep him. So they have plenty of high picks, albeit in a weaker draft, to get some good players. Top 4 defenseman can come anywhere in the 1st or 2nd rounds. If you want a stud I agree with you that you want to be picking ideally in the top 5, but I don't believe there are any projected studs in this draft class. That is why I think the Flyers need to look to FA or trade to get a top pairing defenseman. The Flyers have some really good prospects in their system, I think if they are patient the right deal will come along.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Dec 7 @ 11:45 PM ET
I still can’t see them making the playoffs and if they don’t, try your best to get another first. Draft dmen at the draft and we could also see if we can flip some prospects/ younger players to get a top 4 d although they are rare. Hedge your bet by drafting and trading.
- Hextall271


Dumba will probably be the best UFA Dman in the summer. They would have to move Risto first before adding more salary cap to the blueline thru a trade or free agency. I'm curious how they beef up the blue line and center over the next couple of years.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 7 @ 11:50 PM ET
Frost with 17 minutes of TOI tonight. He had one shot on goal and no hits. He had 3 blocked shots and one giveaway. At least he won 70% of his faceoffs I suppose. His game is just not that inspiring. Looks like Torts got the memo that Sanheim was getting too much ice time. He was 4th on the Flyers defense in ice time tonight. Good job!
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