Now we know what happens when a dino-coach trots his team of misfits into the desert to face a hot new age puck possession fancy metric team

Now we know what happens when a dino-coach trots his team of misfits into the desert to face a hot new age puck possession fancy metric team
- Just5

The desert dogs had won 5 in a row heading into this game. Those victories were against the last 5 Stanley Cup champions! Torts said it was an ugly game for both teams in his post game interview.

One other thing, I think there were more Flyers fans at that game than Coyotes fans. Get them outta the desert! Thanks!

Now we know what happens when a dino-coach trots his team of misfits into the desert to face a hot new age puck possession fancy metric team
- Just5

Settle down.

let me explain it to you. You extend TK and give him the 'C'!! Why trade away a proven player that has tons more to give to the team??
- jd250

Because, as explained to you multiple time already, his age does not fit the rebuild. We are at least 3-4 years away from being a good contender, and so no he doesn't fit the rebuild. You can get a boat load of pieces for him, and help solidify the rebuild with other key pieces.

The Flyers, as well as the season has gone for them, still sit at 16th in the league in PPG. So, even with a healthy roster and things going our way, we are still only good enough to be a borderline playoff team. Now, teams like Jersey are expected to pick it up, and should easily be past us in the standings....so we won't even be top 16, or a playoff team anymore as that happens.....so to put it in plain english for you...as good as this season has gone for the Flyers considering preseason expectations, a lack of injuries and such, we are still not a playoff team.

You sell and get assetts for the future. With your hockey smarts...you should understand that right?

Now we know what happens when a dino-coach trots his team of misfits into the desert to face a hot new age puck possession fancy metric team
- Just5

Convincingly beat a good hot young team on the road and people are still unhappy. This sounds like piling on because you want to fit in.

Good morning and happy Ron Hextall goal vs Boston day. 36 years ago.

Great road win last night. Played very well.

Because, as explained to you multiple time already, his age does not fit the rebuild. We are at least 3-4 years away from being a good contender, and so no he doesn't fit the rebuild. You can get a boat load of pieces for him, and help solidify the rebuild with other key pieces.

The Flyers, as well as the season has gone for them, still sit at 16th in the league in PPG. So, even with a healthy roster and things going our way, we are still only good enough to be a borderline playoff team. Now, teams like Jersey are expected to pick it up, and should easily be past us in the standings....so we won't even be top 16, or a playoff team anymore as that happens.....so to put it in plain english for you...as good as this season has gone for the Flyers considering preseason expectations, a lack of injuries and such, we are still not a playoff team.

You sell and get assetts for the future. With your hockey smarts...you should understand that right?
- TheFreak

16th in power play goals? God were worse than that. Or are you talking points percentage?

Also, you do realize that tk is 26 and not 34 right. Same with hart. If the rebuild is at least 3 or 4 years away, what do you see as the conservative estimate? 5 to 7? If that’s the target horizon and late 20s is over the hill, you might as well trade everyone as they’ll be too old to fit the window.

I think they’re aiming for when mm comes over in 3 more years. Idea would be to have a good team around at that point.

Hart looks really fresh. I thought the workload finally caught up to the Yotes goalie.

That stadium has weird lighting. York and Zamula had especially good games last night.

Let's Go Flyers!

Hart looks really fresh. I thought the workload finally caught up to the Yotes goalie.

That stadium has weird lighting. York and Zamula had especially good games last night.

Let's Go Flyers!
- mickel25

Hart has looked solid. I think ersson playing well helps as he can share the lord a bit.

Weird lighting weird camera angles, very few fans who you could barely hear even when they scored. I’m glad they’re playing well but that team should be in Quebec. They’re playing in a junior rink and Quebec has an nhl arena already built.

Hart has looked solid. I think ersson playing well helps as he can share the lord a bit.

Weird lighting weird camera angles, very few fans who you could barely hear even when they scored. I’m glad they’re playing well but that team should be in Quebec. They’re playing in a junior rink and Quebec has an nhl arena already built.
- Hextall271

The Flyers have two 1sts and two 2nds this year. I suspect they will get a late 1st round pick for Walker, otherwise they will keep him. So they have plenty of high picks, albeit in a weaker draft, to get some good players. Top 4 defenseman can come anywhere in the 1st or 2nd rounds. If you want a stud I agree with you that you want to be picking ideally in the top 5, but I don't believe there are any projected studs in this draft class. That is why I think the Flyers need to look to FA or trade to get a top pairing defenseman. The Flyers have some really good prospects in their system, I think if they are patient the right deal will come along.
- jd250

Ok, I'll play....so what young, top pairing dman is going to available to the Flyers that won't cost them at least a TK if he is established already. You would have to think the price to get a top pairing dman would be super expensive, because Walker, as you have stated multiple times, will get the Flyers a 1st as a 30 year old UFA, so a top pairing, young stud will cost what?

16th in power play goals? God were worse than that. Or are you talking points percentage?

Also, you do realize that tk is 26 and not 34 right. Same with hart. If the rebuild is at least 3 or 4 years away, what do you see as the conservative estimate? 5 to 7? If that’s the target horizon and late 20s is over the hill, you might as well trade everyone as they’ll be too old to fit the window.

I think they’re aiming for when mm comes over in 3 more years. Idea would be to have a good team around at that point.
- Hextall271

Points per game in the standings

TK turns 27 before the end of the season, and we are still 3+ years out...that puts him in his 30's

Seeler and Walker solid again. Great see the coach balancing out the ice time with the top pair. Seeler deserves to be resigned, I would like too keep both however Walker may be harder to resign.

You could, or you could extend TK and sign a top 4 defenseman, or trade for one. It does not have to come from the draft.
- jd250

The Flyers don't just need a top 4 defenseman. They have that. They need a top pairing defenseman and more than one. What are they going to trade to get that player? If you sign one, if that level of player even becomes available, that increases your cap and the player is generally already an older player. You were repeatedly harping and beating the drum that the Flyers need to get a top 5 player. That they need elite players and the best way to get that is to pick top 5. Now here you are railing against trading a player to try and do that. Mesmerized by some regular season wins.

Points per game in the standings

TK turns 27 before the end of the season, and we are still 3+ years out...that puts him in his 30's
- TheFreak

So points percentage then ok.

It puts him just at 30. Not 35. I don’t think they NEED to trade him but can if it’s an overpay. If a team comes and says I’ll give you a first pick and a stud d prospect or current young nhl player. Definitely consider it but I’m not looking to dump him and hart for 5th rounders because they need contracts soon. Just don’t give them full ntc and you’re fine. Tk is a very solid first line winger.

The Flyers have two 1sts and two 2nds this year. I suspect they will get a late 1st round pick for Walker, otherwise they will keep him. So they have plenty of high picks, albeit in a weaker draft, to get some good players. Top 4 defenseman can come anywhere in the 1st or 2nd rounds. If you want a stud I agree with you that you want to be picking ideally in the top 5, but I don't believe there are any projected studs in this draft class. That is why I think the Flyers need to look to FA or trade to get a top pairing defenseman. The Flyers have some really good prospects in their system, I think if they are patient the right deal will come along.
- jd250

Are they abolishing the draft after the next upcoming draft or something that I didn't hear about? There won't be any other future drafts?

Frost with 17 minutes of TOI tonight. He had one shot on goal and no hits. He had 3 blocked shots and one giveaway. At least he won 70% of his faceoffs I suppose. His game is just not that inspiring. Looks like Torts got the memo that Sanheim was getting too much ice time. He was 4th on the Flyers defense in ice time tonight. Good job!
- Phillywhiteout

You forgot a 57.58CF%. 64.19 xGF%, 62.50 SCF% and a 66.67 HDSCF%

You forgot a 57.58CF%. 64.19 xGF%, 62.50 SCF% and a 66.67 HDSCF%
- MJL

Lol, suck a troll
Good morning everyone, good win last night. I like them winning even though id rather a rebuild. But lets hear what negativity mjl has after these recent wins. Let me guess torts? Frost ? ND ? Lol
Anyone want to spew some positive thoughts ? Have a great friday everyone

Because, as explained to you multiple time already, his age does not fit the rebuild. We are at least 3-4 years away from being a good contender, and so no he doesn't fit the rebuild. You can get a boat load of pieces for him, and help solidify the rebuild with other key pieces.

The Flyers, as well as the season has gone for them, still sit at 16th in the league in PPG. So, even with a healthy roster and things going our way, we are still only good enough to be a borderline playoff team. Now, teams like Jersey are expected to pick it up, and should easily be past us in the standings....so we won't even be top 16, or a playoff team anymore as that happens.....so to put it in plain english for you...as good as this season has gone for the Flyers considering preseason expectations, a lack of injuries and such, we are still not a playoff team.

You sell and get assetts for the future. With your hockey smarts...you should understand that right?
- TheFreak

If they're a playoff team at Christmas, chances are they're making the playoffs. With my hockey smarts i understand this.

Frost with 17 minutes of TOI tonight. He had one shot on goal and no hits. He had 3 blocked shots and one giveaway. At least he won 70% of his faceoffs I suppose. His game is just not that inspiring. Looks like Torts got the memo that Sanheim was getting too much ice time. He was 4th on the Flyers defense in ice time tonight. Good job!
- Phillywhiteout

Honestly it was a low event game overall, from both sides. Torts called it an ugly game. However I thought the Flyers best line was the Couts, TK and Foerster line.

You forgot a 57.58CF%. 64.19 xGF%, 62.50 SCF% and a 66.67 HDSCF%
- MJL

when do you sleep cliff?

Torts has the boys on a roll. Playing a structured game that will bode well come playoff time. Good to see Ollie with 6 + minutes. Great way to incorporate your leading phantoms scorer.

Just think how much better the team will be once torts figures out who he needs to add before the trade deadline.

Because, as explained to you multiple time already, his age does not fit the rebuild. We are at least 3-4 years away from being a good contender, and so no he doesn't fit the rebuild. You can get a boat load of pieces for him, and help solidify the rebuild with other key pieces.

The Flyers, as well as the season has gone for them, still sit at 16th in the league in PPG. So, even with a healthy roster and things going our way, we are still only good enough to be a borderline playoff team. Now, teams like Jersey are expected to pick it up, and should easily be past us in the standings....so we won't even be top 16, or a playoff team anymore as that happens.....so to put it in plain english for you...as good as this season has gone for the Flyers considering preseason expectations, a lack of injuries and such, we are still not a playoff team.

You sell and get assetts for the future. With your hockey smarts...you should understand that right?
- TheFreak

I understand that TK is 25 freak'n years old! If he were 29 or 30+ years old I could agree with you, but the kid is just coming into his prime. Who better to lead the new era of Orange and teach by example the younger players how to play the game? It would absolutely stupid for the Flyers to trade TK. You just don't trade one of the best all around forwards in the game for a bunch of draft picks that may or not develop. The Flyers have plenty of assets. They need to continue to move out older veterans like Staal, Atkinson and Laughton as their younger players are ready to take over.

when do you sleep cliff?

Torts has the boys on a roll. Playing a structured game that will bode well come playoff time. Good to see Ollie with 6 + minutes. Great way to incorporate your leading phantoms scorer.

Just think how much better the team will be once torts figures out who he needs to add before the trade deadline.
- hello it's me 2050

So you would have preferred Ollie playing on the first or second lines? At least he played and got some minutes, versus sitting in the stands (I don't this mullet arena has a press box).

So points percentage then ok.

It puts him just at 30. Not 35. I don’t think they NEED to trade him but can if it’s an overpay. If a team comes and says I’ll give you a first pick and a stud d prospect or current young nhl player. Definitely consider it but I’m not looking to dump him and hart for 5th rounders because they need contracts soon. Just don’t give them full ntc and you’re fine. Tk is a very solid first line winger.
- Hextall271

You know the Flyers will give them max term, max $$$ and a NMC. Just like rebuilding is NOT in their DNA, it is in their DNA to get fleeced in every contract negotiation. They just can't help themselves. I personally would rather trade TK (not for a 5th rounder), than pay another player big dollars well into his 30's.

Ok, I'll play....so what young, top pairing dman is going to available to the Flyers that won't cost them at least a TK if he is established already. You would have to think the price to get a top pairing dman would be super expensive, because Walker, as you have stated multiple times, will get the Flyers a 1st as a 30 year old UFA, so a top pairing, young stud will cost what?
- TheFreak

I don't know, you have to see who becomes available. The Bruins drafted McAvoy with the 14th pick in what was considered a weaker draft. The Bruins also got Hampus Lindholm, who arguably had a better season last year than McAvoy, for a 1st round pick and a prospect, and then signed the player to a long term deal. All I am saying is there are multiple ways the Flyers can get a top pairing defenseman other than trading your best player that I believe is the future face of the team.