I’ll say it again and again and again. I don’t have as much of a problem with Morgan Frost as I do with those who won’t allow you to say one critical word about him. Frost is a responsible game is great but 5 points in 16 games is cause for concern. Last season was last season. You heard Torts, for Frost to play in the top 6 he’s gotta produce and I’m starting to really agree. I’ll never agree with scratching him an insane amount of games in a row but he needs to put up points.

I'll add to this. I believe he should be in every offensive situation but people have been upset Frost hasn’t been included in OT. I being one….but maybe he didn’t earn it. Why is he a no show for the first 60 minutes but expected to be rewarded with OT time?
- roenick97

I want Frost to play as well, and I'm disappointed with this play so far because he is not building a good trade market for himself. His underlying numbers are not bad by any means, and he is playing with good players, but for whatever reason he is just not clicking so far this season.

But to be fair, if Tippet would bury more of his chances, maybe Frost would have better numbers!

Pastrnak is an elite scorer, but I watch him all the time and IMO if I had a choice between the two players, I am picking TK. I hate the Bruins yes, but that has nothing to do with evaluating their players. For example, I always had the highest respect for Bergeron as one of the best two-way forwards in the game, and always thought Krejci was a great playoff performer and the lynchpin of that team.
- jd250

Yes, it does, it is absolutely a factor. It's why you make dumb statements like you would take Konecny over Pasternak and why you don't think McAvoy is one of the best defenseman in the league. It shows you're incapable of proper evaluations of players.

Zero chance. They're not rebuilding. May as well ask Torts to start wearing a dress on the bench.
- Feanor

It’s what they should do, time will tell.

He also has 5 points in his last 10 games, while Brink has 3 in his last 9, Laughton has 5 in his last 13, and Atkinson & Farabee both have 6 in their last 13. So in the last month he's produced more points than they have per game, and yet you don't hear too many people saying they should be benched.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...ssists&page=0&pageSize=50
- Feanor

There's actually been a lot of conversation about scott and cam being benched and even some saying farabee should. i didn't say i would bench him, the comment was there as we know torts is not a fan.

frost should be producing more than scott. cam isn't going to produce the way he did before the injury and is aging. overall in 10 more games farabee has 11 more points. scott has 8 more points, cam has 10 more points. no frost hasn't played every game.

all of frost points have been from 4 games.

edit- all i'm saying is i want the kid to start producing. otherwise i feel they will just have a reason to sit him again.

I agree, Frost getting jerked in and out of the lineup was a bad move by Torts. We saw last season what happens if you play him every game with decent wingers.

All of Brink's points came in 8 of his 21 games, so he's blanked in 62% of his games. It's not unusual.

Zero chance. They're not rebuilding. May as well ask Torts to start wearing a dress on the bench.
- Feanor

They are rebuilding exactly like Hextall did except repackaging it with Jones as the figurehead and hoping he’s more likable. It has a very very low chance of working but it is what it is.

I don't know where to start. You continue to post as if this years upcoming draft is the only draft. LOL. You also contradict every past position you have had. You're doing so because you are being fooled by the current team. Again with hyperbole. Konecny is not a special player. He's a very good player but not a special player. Not a player that you build a franchise around. Yes, for the right return, as a rebuilding team. You absolutely give up that player. You're wrong. No, Konecny is not one of the best overall forwards in the game. More hyperbole.
- MJL

You see, this is where you often become a complete a-hole! Did it ever occur to you that people's opinions might evolve over time as they see how things are playing out? I don't see the game now the same as I did 5 years ago or even 2 years ago. Likewise I don't see the Flyers now as I did 5 years ago or even 2 years ago. Just because I may have had an opinion about a topic even last year does not mean I cannot evolve from that opinion over time.

But in this case, it's killing you that the Flyers are a good team and may even make the playoffs, because if that happens you look like a complete ass with your takes about Torts, or my all time favorite jackass take from you, that Hefferty, Jones and Torts should be fired after only 20 games this season; or that Briere is being manipulated and bullied by Jones and Torts. And if the Flyers make the playoffs, it will absolutely kill you when Torts gets his 3rd Jack Adams award. It's also killing you to see a player like TK or Foerster thriving under Torts, because again it kills your narrative that Torts is nothing more than a dinosaur that is killing players like your boy Frost.

This is what you are afraid of the most after all, finally for all to see that your opinions are completely skewed by your hatred of Torts.

And there’s a very strong chance that cutter and Michkov are going to be wingers. It’s time to move TK at the deadline, we will get a haul
- ClaudeFather

The move is to absolutely eat salary and move TK for a monstrous return. But Flyers gonna Flyer.

What are we supposed to be listening to? Get better defensively and make smarter decisions?
- roenick97

just his response to how Coots holds him accountable, and TK is always fun to listen too.

Based on recent comments from Jones, if the Flyers are in the playoff hunt come deadline time, they will not be buying but they also most likely will not be sellers. If the team is not realistically a playoff team I can see Walker moved for the 1st round pick, and maybe Staal for a late round pick. Not likely but maybe Laughton is traded if a team offers a 1st round pick for him. In the off season I can see Laughton, Risto and Atkinson potentially being traded. I looked it up and the Flyers don't really save a lot of money by buying out Atkinson's contract so if there is not a deal for him in the off season I can see Atkinson sticking with the Flyers until the next deadline.
- jd250

His comments mean jack schitt. Actions will define what they do. When torts gets in "jonesy" ear about adding that Thomson type "Jonesy" eyes will light up.

Walker being trade is 50/50.
Staal is shot and they already said it will be left up to him. He ain't going anywhere.
Laughtom they missed the boat on. He is also someone they will not trade.

Not buying the RR potential trade. He makes too much with too much term. Unless taking back a bad contract he stays. Plus I think the flyers think he is important come playoff time. Which is funny as hell.

Cam maybe next deadline. At best. No buyout you ride it out.

Yes, it does, it is absolutely a factor. It's why you make dumb statements like you would take Konecny over Pasternak and why you don't think McAvoy is one of the best defenseman in the league. It shows you're incapable of proper evaluations of players.
- MJL

McAvoy is not even the best defenseman on his team! Let that sink in for a moment. McAvoy is a very good offensive defenseman, but he is poor defensively and was exposed in last year's playoffs by the Florida Panthers. The reason why so many Bruins have high +/- numbers is because of Swayman and Ullmark, the latter having a career year last season. These are just facts that if you were an honest person you could not dispute.

His comments mean jack schitt. Actions will define what they do. When torts gets in "jonesy" ear about adding that Thomson type "Jonesy" eyes will light up.

Walker being trade is 50/50.
Staal is shot and they already said it will be left up to him. He ain't going anywhere.
Laughtom they missed the boat on. He is also someone they will not trade.

Not buying the RR potential trade. He makes too much with too much term. Unless taking back a bad contract he stays. Plus I think the flyers think he is important come playoff time. Which is funny as hell.

Cam maybe next deadline. At best. No buyout you ride it out.
- hello it's me 2050

I don't think Risto will be traded this season, but after this season he is basically 3 years at $15M and thus I can see him having a strong trade market, especially with the cap going up.

You see, this is where you often become a complete a-hole! Did it ever occur to you that people's opinions might evolve over time as they see how things are playing out? I don't see the game now the same as I did 5 years ago or even 2 years ago. Likewise I don't see the Flyers now as I did 5 years ago or even 2 years ago. Just because I may have had an opinion about a topic even last year does not mean I cannot evolve from that opinion over time.

But in this case, it's killing you that the Flyers are a good team and may even make the playoffs, because if that happens you look like a complete ass with your takes about Torts, or my all time favorite jackass take from you, that Hefferty, Jones and Torts should be fired after only 20 games this season; or that Briere is being manipulated and bullied by Jones and Torts. And if the Flyers make the playoffs, it will absolutely kill you when Torts gets his 3rd Jack Adams award. It's also killing you to see a player like TK or Foerster thriving under Torts, because again it kills your narrative that Torts is nothing more than a dinosaur that is killing players like your boy Frost.

This is what you are afraid of the most after all, finally for all to see that your opinions are completely skewed by your hatred of Torts.
- jd250

Normally, sure. For you who flip flops daily. Often depending on who you've been manipulated by no. Combined with your daily absurd opinions. No benefit of the doubt from me. That's not being an bumhole. That's being realistic based on your history.

Didn't read the rest

There's actually been a lot of conversation about scott and cam being benched and even some saying farabee should. i didn't say i would bench him, the comment was there as we know torts is not a fan.

frost should be producing more than scott. cam isn't going to produce the way he did before the injury and is aging. overall in 10 more games farabee has 11 more points. scott has 8 more points, cam has 10 more points. no frost hasn't played every game.

all of frost points have been from 4 games.

edit- all i'm saying is i want the kid to start producing. otherwise i feel they will just have a reason to sit him again.
- Peter Richards

I think now is the right time to say Frost needs points, the benching surely stunted his season but this is the point he needs to break out. Tip needs to be better and Frost, it should come.

McAvoy is not even the best defenseman on his team! Let that sink in for a moment. McAvoy is a very good offensive defenseman, but he is poor defensively and was exposed in last year's playoffs by the Florida Panthers. The reason why so many Bruins have high +/- numbers is because of Swayman and Ullmark, the latter having a career year last season. These are just facts that if you were an honest person you could not dispute.
- jd250

McAvoy is generally considered a very strong defender who is considered in all rankings to be a top 10 NHL defenseman. He is the best defenseman on his team. Your post is full of inaccuracies and conjecture. You're uninformed.

I don't think Risto will be traded this season, but after this season he is basically 3 years at $15M and thus I can see him having a strong trade market, especially with the cap going up.
- jd250

why would a team waste any cap increase on an overpaid dman who is suited to play the 3rd pair? If he was at 2.5 million he would have a market more than likely.

strong trade market? come on man.

I don't think Risto will be traded this season, but after this season he is basically 3 years at $15M and thus I can see him having a strong trade market, especially with the cap going up.
- jd250

The cap is only going up about 3.2M for next season. That is not a lot. I pray that a team is willing to trade for Ristolainen without the Flyers taking it in the chin. That would be fantastic for the Flyers moving forward to eliminate that huge mistake.

Lots of negativity on here for a team that is in a pretty good place. Personally. I'd love to see the Flyers make the playoffs! Could you imagine a certain someone on here if that happened and Torts won the Jack Adams? However, I don't think it's reality and would still be absolutely flabbergasted if they did make it! They don't have to trade anyone right now, so they are in a position of power. They already have 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks in this upcoming draft. As I have been saying, TK and Hart are tough decisions going forward. They probably need to be moved if the right package is offered. I want this team to be a true contender in 3 to 5 years! whatever it takes boys! Thanks!

why would a team waste any cap increase on an overpaid dman who is suited to play the 3rd pair?.
- hello it's me 2050

The cap increase will be going to the stars not the bottom half of the roster players. There will always be teams that overspend on the middle of the roster though. Are there still GMs who view Ristolainen as a 2nd pair guy?

Lots of negativity on here for a team that is in a pretty good place. Personally. I'd love to see the Flyers make the playoffs! Could you imagine a certain someone on here if that happened and Torts won the Jack Adams? However, I don't think it's reality and would still be absolutely flabbergasted if they did make it! They don't have to trade anyone right now, so they are in a position of power. They already have 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks in this upcoming draft. As I have been saying, TK and Hart are tough decisions going forward. They probably need to be moved if the right package is offered. I want this team to be a true contender in 3 to 5 years! whatever it takes boys! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

What is going to satisfy you and what do you want? Are you satisfied with just a playoff team and a competitive team? Tortorella has shown he can coach a team to that level. He has not shown in close to 20 years that he can coach a team close to being a legit Cup contender. Not in the modern day NHL. There are limitations to his coaching ability. Are the Flyers going to take the necessary steps to be more than just a playoff team, or are they going to continue to be satisfied with that level? These are the questions to ask and answer.

What is going to satisfy you and what do you want? Are you satisfied with just a playoff team and a competitive team? Tortorella has shown he can coach a team to that level. He has not shown in close to 20 years that he can coach a team close to being a legit Cup contender. Not in the modern day NHL. There are limitations to his coaching ability. Are the Flyers going to take the necessary steps to be more than just a playoff team, or are they going to continue to be satisfied with that level? These are the questions to ask and answer.
- MJL

depends on your definition. NYR. took them to the conference finals

then for years had columbus over perform. they were not contenders, but also didn't have the talent. he did his job as the coach.

i've posted it before (of how many and who). how many coaches have coached to a stanley cup victory. those who have repeated as champs, also look at the team/players they have had.

you keep repeating the same crap everyday.

There is a new blob up gents. I suggest you all make like a tree and leaf here.

So points percentage then ok.

It puts him just at 30. Not 35. I don’t think they NEED to trade him but can if it’s an overpay. If a team comes and says I’ll give you a first pick and a stud d prospect or current young nhl player. Definitely consider it but I’m not looking to dump him and hart for 5th rounders because they need contracts soon. Just don’t give them full ntc and you’re fine. Tk is a very solid first line winger.
- Hextall271

Never said he was 35, but would be in his 30's by the time MM and Cutter are making impacts in the NHL. It is unrealistic to think MM will come over and be an instant superstar.....so a year or 2 to acclimate...Tk would now be in his early 30's.

I just think his worth is more to the Flyers as a trade chip and the return he gets in his prime, than what he will be bringing to the Flyers in his early to mid 30's, once this thing starts rocking.

I want Frost to play as well, and I'm disappointed with this play so far because he is not building a good trade market for himself. His underlying numbers are not bad by any means, and he is playing with good players, but for whatever reason he is just not clicking so far this season.

But to be fair, if Tippet would bury more of his chances, maybe Frost would have better numbers!
- jd250

He is not trying to build a trade market for himself, you dillusional idiot...he is trying to become a regular NHL contributing to the team he is on.

The cap increase will be going to the stars not the bottom half of the roster players. There will always be teams that overspend on the middle of the roster though. Are there still GMs who view Ristolainen as a 2nd pair guy?
- psuhockey

correct about the stars. There maybe a GM or 2. I have a hard time believing it.

also he ha splayed zero fn playoff games. Be diff he he had a strong payoff track rceord.