"After trading Eichel and Sam we really didn't need to be using the only first round draft pick we acquired in trade that year cause support is needed in the 2023-2024 season."

You are all over the place man, a young group put together by the GM, needed support back then as it does now. That's the point here, you are arguing hindsight, I don't know why.

Rosen didn't help back then and isn't helping now, trading that pick to bring in support was and remains the move.
- washedup20

You are using hindsight as well. Cause your assuming those things were bound to happen.

Like what


Using the 1st for a centreman was what was needed back then.

The only complaint anyone had was that the Rosen pick was a slight reach. No one wanted a support piece.

"After trading Eichel and Sam we really didn't need to be using the only first round draft pick we acquired in trade that year cause support is needed in the 2023-2024 season."



- DirtyDan

You do realize Rosen has provided 0 value. I am honestly in disbelief at how much of a reaction this brought out of you. He was a terrible pick, Adams might get a 3rd or 4th if he is lucky for him.

You do realize Rosen has provided 0 value. I am honestly in disbelief at how much of a reaction this brought out of you. He was a terrible pick, Adams might get a 3rd or 4th if he is lucky for him.
- washedup20

You could argue Wallstedt but other than that the pick was being used on a Centerman. and they went with their guy.

Their drafting has been pretay good so im fine they didnt waste it to bring in I don't even know who.

You are using hindsight as well. Cause your assuming those things were bound to happen.

Like what


Using the 1st for a centreman was what was needed back then.

The only complaint anyone had was that the Rosen pick was a slight reach. No one wanted a support piece.
- DirtyDan

It was dumb then and remains dumb, believe what you want, it's a meaningless conversation.

ftfy
- jochfr

- DirtyDan

Agreed, even that might be a tough get.

Would be a great story, if he was drafted in the 7th round as it will take 5+ years for him to even grow into NHL size, let alone allow the organization to see what he is capable of.

If he turns out to be a good player in 26/27, great, still a waste of a 14OA pick.
- washedup20

Only four players in the entire draft (one in the first round) have played more games than him. Only ten players total, drafted after him, have played a single NHL game. It was a lackluster draft class and he's developing well. He won't take until 26-27 to produce and he's not falling behind his peers.

I know you wanted to spend the pick, and that's a valid argument to have, but I don't think we can say he was a horrible pick. He'd be a 1st rounder, in the teens or early twenties, in any redraft given his production in the AHL.

tuch skating but not on lines tonight.

and don't worry, the good johnson isn't playing tonight

I was dumb then and remain dumb now, believe what you want, but I am truly stoopid.
- washedup20

We know Washed... We know

Only four players in the entire draft (one in the first round) have played more games than him. Only ten players total, drafted after him, have played a single NHL game. It was a lackluster draft class and he's developing well. He won't take until 26-27 to produce and he's not falling behind his peers.

I know you wanted to spend the pick, and that's a valid argument to have, but I don't think we can say he was a horrible pick. He'd be a 1st rounder, in the teens or early twenties, in any redraft given his production in the AHL.
- QuinnFan

Just more evidence of incompetency at the GM position

Just more evidence of incompetency at the GM position
- washedup20

Fair enough, but also more evidence that our scouting department is doing pretty well.

Since 11/26, Erik Johnson

60.06% xGF%
61.67 CF%
50% HDCF

Would be a great story, if he was drafted in the 7th round as it will take 5+ years for him to even grow into NHL size, let alone allow the organization to see what he is capable of.

If he turns out to be a good player in 26/27, great, still a waste of a 14OA pick.
- washedup20

He's closer than that, alot closer.

We know Washed... We know

- DirtyDan

You haven't proven a single thing in this conversation. You are defending a 14OA player that can't crack the lineup of a bottom 5 NHL team. What are you trying to accomplish here? Pure emotional responses, don't blame me for you spending money on seasons for this garbage product.

Fair enough, but also more evidence that our scouting department is doing pretty well.
- QuinnFan

Please expand on this.

Clifton, Olofsson in that time span getting rag dolled.

Since 11/26, Erik Johnson

60.06% xGF%
61.67 CF%
50% HDCF
- TheSabresTaco

There were PEDs in the Turkey at the Johnson House it would seem.

You haven't proven a single thing in this conversation. You are defending a 14OA player that can't crack the lineup of a bottom 5 NHL team. What are you trying to accomplish here? Pure emotional responses, don't blame me for you spending money on seasons for this garbage product.
- washedup20

is BM the only thing you like about this org

There were PEDs in the Turkey at the Johnson House it would seem.
- QuinnFan

Don't care if it was (frank)ing speed balls, just dont be a worthless poop.

clifton is absolute ass.

You haven't proven a single thing in this conversation. You are defending a 14OA player that can't crack the lineup of a bottom 5 NHL team. What are you trying to accomplish here? Pure emotional responses, don't blame me for you spending money on seasons for this garbage product.
- washedup20

Umm even Quinner came along and said pretty much what I did...

You say he has no value and will amount to nothing cause 7 games in the NHL? Only 2 or 3 players behind him have played meaningful time in the NHL so far. Not sure how you can make that claim because hes in his 2nd year of NA hockey....

Not everyone is Zach Benson. Actually pretty much no one outside of top 5 picks come in first year and actually produce.

If anyone is making emotional posts its you

"Pure emotional responses. Don't blame me for you spending money on seasons for this garbage product."


"Pure emotional responses"

Proceeds to respond with pure emotion




Cant make this stuff up

Umm even Quinner came along and said pretty much what I did...

You say he has no value and will amount to nothing cause 7 games in the NHL? Only 2 or 3 players behind him have played meaningful time in the NHL so far. Not sure how you can make that claim because hes in his 2nd year of NA hockey....

Not everyone is Zach Benson. Actually pretty much no one outside of top 5 picks come in first year and actually produce.

If anyone is making emotional posts its you
- DirtyDan

He agreed about trading the pick you dope, it's impressive how much of your caveman brain you're comfortable exposing today.

tuch is game time decision, needs medical clearance.

Your moving the posts cause you realized you were totally off washed
- DirtyDan

today is about big murrrrrrr


please stay on topic


thanks in advance