Isn't that the truth. This has been going on for years - Sikura, Highmore, Gaudette, Borgstrom, Connolly, Perlini, Hayden, Quennville and the list goes on and on.
- boilermaker100

2024 Plugs:

After spending to get to the cap floor, have about 4 spots on the roster. Just putting in current FAs who will be back or there will be some equivalent FA contract to help get to the floor:

Hall - Bedard - Kurashev
*Beauvillier (or FA) - Athanasiou - ???
*Foligno (or FA) - *D!ickinson (or FA) - *T. Johnson (or FA)
??? - Donato - ???
???


RFA - Katchouk - Raddysh - Entwistle - Guttman - Reichel - Anderson - R. Johnson - Hardman - Teply

Signed or could be signed -

Dach - Nazar - Rolston
Savoie - Slaggert - Greene
Luypen - Ludwinski - Hayes
Marcel - Saarela - Kantserov

https://x.com/Blackhawk_U...iq_C1cb9Nol1kqeJEhcw&s=01

Pretty wild how we forget how much younger Bedard is to Fantilli and Carlsson

No doubt. Boris had to have been resisting coaching or just pissed off some who matte...... Cuz on this roster I stand he's a top 6 guy.
- Mr Ricochet

Was he on that Canada junior team that is being investigated? Maybe that's got something to do with it. Hope not.

Sometimes I chuckle at how much time we spend arguing over our plugs. We can only hope that a contender sees something in any of them at the deadline.
- 333inthe3rd

Cuz sometimes a player thought to be a bottom 6, if that's what you're considering a plug, becomes a middle or top 6? Cuz on a roster barren of top 6 guys some bottom 6 guy has to fill that spot?

I get your point though.

Cuz sometimes a player thought to be a bottom 6, if that's what you're considering a plug, becomes a middle or top 6? Cuz on a roster barren of top 6 guys some bottom 6 guy has to fill that spot?

I get your point though.
- Mr Ricochet

Never Rico. Can’t understand why the Hawks traded for that plug Sharp. He had worse stats in Philly than Entwhistle has with the Hawks in his 3 years with the club.

Draft asssets are be all end all, the rest is just chum in the water

EDIT: and do not commit money to players that have earned it, because the GM might have to churn his brain for 5 minutes how to. Hold a team with good players. Just trade them for more draft choices because tearing down a team is easier and more fun then trying to build one.

https://x.com/Blackhawk_Up/status/1734253756341162091?t=qeiq_C1cb9Nol1kqeJEhcw&s=01

Pretty wild how we forget how much younger Bedard is to Fantilli and Carlsson
- BetweenTheDots

Is forgetting anything about Bedard even possible? The lunacy of coverage of the kid on the whole continent is unparalleled. I mean, even this fan boy you link to has it down to days of the age difference. Surprised he doesn't have it down to the minute... Unfortunately, crazy coverage on what a human being eats for lunch leads to idiotic rumors about a kid's mama.... Thankfully, especially for him, coverage seems to have slowed just a tad since the first week.

And Dots, do you have stock in Twitter or posters of Musk on your walls? You link to Elon 7 times a day with only a teaser of what it's about.

Never Rico. Can’t understand why the Hawks traded for that plug Sharp. He had worse stats in Philly than Entwhistle has with the Hawks in his 3 years with the club.

Draft asssets are be all end all, the rest is just chum in the water
- LAHawk

Yep that's what we are all saying.

Is forgetting anything about Bedard even possible? The lunacy of coverage of the kid on the whole continent is unparalleled. I mean, even this fan boy you link to has it down to days of the age difference. Surprised he doesn't have it down to the minute... Unfortunately, crazy coverage on what a human being eats for lunch leads to idiotic rumors about a kid's mama.... Thankfully, especially for him, coverage seems to have slowed just a tad since the first week.

And Dots, do you have stock in Twitter or posters of Musk on your walls? You link to Elon 7 times a day with only a teaser of what it's about.
- Mr Ricochet

I get the sense you don't like Bedard. Elbows doesn't like Korchinski edit and Seth jones. That's cool, LA doesn't like little Nappy, i don't like Murphy we all have our guys, the rage is great.

Musk is a tool but i like the platform for some interesting info and no I'll never buy a Tesla

I mean Bedard is almost a year younger than those 2 guys. You don't find that to be significant? I didn't realize it until i saw that

Never Rico. Can’t understand why the Hawks traded for that plug Sharp. He had worse stats in Philly than Entwhistle has with the Hawks in his 3 years with the club.

Draft asssets are be all end all, the rest is just chum in the water
- LAHawk

I do get the point though. I think every fan base debates fringe players or like in Chicago that the backup QB should be getting the starts.

But yea man, find a player who's organIzation sees him as a bottom 6 guy and sometimes you get a Sharp back or in Vegas' case 1/2 the roster!!

Rick, speaking for myself, it doesn't take a scout's eye to see/know what jr players look like and the mistakes they make it only takes having seen enough of that level and that is what Bedard looks like in the NHL right NOW. ....... He's 18, should we be surprised? No, but at Game 25 you'd like to see those mistakes start being eliminated.

And what you posted about Gretzky is exactly why I'd rather watch Forsberg play 100 out of 100 times.
- Mr Ricochet

Fairly early in the season in a home game I took note of a very quick camera pan to the Hawks bench as Bedard's line came off after a long shift. Perry was standing up sideways and said something to #98 and it wasn't an "atta boy". Bedard looked straight ahead with a puzzled look on his face.

He"ll get it eventually when the Chicago media worship of him wears off replaced by real analysis from hockey people, if not his coaches. Game 25 is still honeymoon time.

I get the sense you don't like Bedard. Elbows doesn't like Korchinski edit and Seth jones. That's cool, LA doesn't like little Nappy, i don't like Murphy we all have our guys, the rage is great.

Musk is a tool but i like the platform for some interesting info and no I'll never buy a Tesla

I mean Bedard is almost a year younger than those 2 guys. You don't find that to be significant? I didn't realize it until i saw that
- BetweenTheDots

Why, cuz since Game 3 I've pointed out Bedard's 3:00 shifts or skating into 3 players? That at 18, not sure how many days or minutes, TODAY he's a jrs player with a world class shot? That means I don't like him? I've said anything not true?

Love the kid's love of the game. That he stays after every practice and WORKS. Love the kid's tools but call me old school, or a neanderthal, but to me no player is ever bigger than the sport.

Not saying he sees himself that way but will say ANY player who has thought of themselves as bigger than the sport skated 2:00 shifts.

And really, why do you link to Elon with a teaser to entice the click? I know you won't change, especially now that it's been brought up, but I'm curious.

Feel free to rebut without one in return. I've made my feelings known that right NOW Bedard is a jrs player with a world class shot playing in the NHL. For the most part I'll steer clear of this topic from now on, that Bedard is a jrs player, cuz it is redundant except I'll point out his long shifts causing goals against.

So Bedard's problems are cuz he's surrounded by AHLers? Bedard's brain is so elite that a Kurashev, Beauvillier, Foligno, D!ckinson do not know how to skate to open ice to be a target even though there is vast areas of open ice cuz Bedard is triple teamed, so Bedard has to skate directly into 3 players over and over and over resulting in odd mans the other way and we are into Game 25???? Game 25 and he has no choice but to skate into 3 opponents? ..... We know those guys aren't finishers but so far outa Bedard's league they don't know how to support/be a target for him?

What choice does he have if he can't find the 2 open players or they don't have the brains t skate to open ice? Rim it in, dump and make the Dman turn, check up and wait for the next wave, let SOMEONE else carry it in and use your elite brain to support the puck carrier (watch that it seems to work for Bedard). Anything but skate into 3 opponents, anything.

How many times do we ever see a legit NHLer engaged by 3 players? Do that to Kucherov, Point, Kane or Marchand and they'll skin you alive every single time hitting one of 2 guys that are wide open.

The kid is 18, he truly has exceptional skills including between the ears, has had crazy success all his life but that ain't enough in the Bigs...... I have no doubt he'll figure it out but at Game 25 I'd have hoped he would be further down that road by not skating into 3 opponents game shift after shift, game after game.

And the 2:00 minute shifts? This bothers me the most and my biggest fear is it's a window into the future. There can be no possible way LR, Perry or Foligno did not tell Bedard after the 1st game, hey kid you can't do that in the Bigs. No way I thought then a Mickey Redmond mentions Bedard's long shifts are disrespectful to the game and your mates and that you do that on a Perron team and he's in your face.

Verification of what I thought, knew, from a 50 yr guy. So I know he's been told but he keeps doing it over and over and over. That to me is the biggest concern going forward, kid don't care he's doing it his way.
- Mr Ricochet

Kane, Point, Marchand and Kucherov have always played with very good to exceptional players OR in a lot of Kane's situations - if they tried to stop him while he was dragging around Zeus the Toews line would make them pay.

Incomparable situations. None of those guys have been stuck with the mediocre players that Bedard has been or such a bad roster with the exception of Kane last year.

Fairly early in the season in a home game I took note of a very quick camera pan to the Hawks bench as Bedard's line came off after a long shift. Perry was standing up sideways and said something to #98 and it wasn't an "atta boy". Bedard looked straight ahead with a puzzled look on his face.

He"ll get it eventually when the Chicago media worship of him wears off replaced by real analysis from hockey people, if not his coaches. Game 25 is still honeymoon time.
- RickJ

As I said earlier, it’s easy to stop the long shifts or get Bedard to be more responsible defensively. Start with his power play time and if it doesn’t improve he loses shifts.

Rick, speaking for myself, it doesn't take a scout's eye to see/know what jr players look like and the mistakes they make it only takes having seen enough of that level and that is what Bedard looks like in the NHL right NOW. ....... He's 18, should we be surprised? No, but at Game 25 you'd like to see those mistakes start being eliminated.

And what you posted about Gretzky is exactly why I'd rather watch Forsberg play 100 out of 100 times.
- Mr Ricochet

How many junior players put up 23 points in 27 games without any support...

As I said earlier, it’s easy to stop the long shifts or get Bedard to be more responsible defensively. Start with his power play time and if it doesn’t improve he loses shifts.
- paulr

Or surround him with better players so he can produce in a shorter shift.

Musk is a tool but i like the platform for some interesting info and no I'll never buy a Tesla

I mean Bedard is almost a year younger than those 2 guys. You don't find that to be significant? I didn't realize it until i saw that
- BetweenTheDots

Missed the rest of your post. Yea, I knew how young was. And yes it matters as a kid at 18ish has been known to have growth spurts and developmentally wise 10ish months means a lot at that age.

Thanks for answering the Twitter question. When I quote someone I post at least a part of it with a link so a reader can decide if it interests them before they click.......... For instance, I don't click on anything about Bedard that's not purely hockey related. Don't care about his, or anyone's, new blue jeans or what he ate for breakfast.

Why, cuz since Game 3 I've pointed out Bedard's 3:00 shifts or skating into 3 players? That at 18, not sure how many days or minutes, TODAY he's a jrs player with a world class shot? That means I don't like him? I've said anything not true?

Love the kid's love of the game. That he stays after every practice and WORKS. Love the kid's tools but call me old school, or a neanderthal, but to me no player is ever bigger than the sport.

Not saying he sees himself that way but will say ANY player who has thought of themselves as bigger than the sport skated 2:00 shifts.
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- Mr Ricochet

Because for whatever reason i can copy the link but i can't just copy and paste what the subject is like others can here. I guess I'm old, from now on I'll post the subject matter for you on top of it. I don't want you to be upset about my click bait and how long Bedards shifts are.

I thought i bolded the thing about Musk, like i said i guess I'm getting old

How many junior players put up 23 points in 27 games without any support...
- fattybeef

Point taken. ........How bout this point. If Bedard had less points, and/or shorter shifts, good chance they'd have a win or two more, or gobs less odd mans against.

You count Bedard's points I'll count the wins and/or a framework being built for wins.

Or surround him with better players so he can produce in a shorter shift.
- fattybeef

I’m pretty sure KFC is still in tank mode trying to get more draft picks.

I’m pretty sure KFC is still in tank mode trying to get more draft picks.
- paulr

Oh stop it, I'm sure he's trying to make the playoffs

Point taken. ........How bout this point. If Bedard had less points, and/or shorter shifts, good chance they'd have a win or two more, or gobs less odd mans against.

You count Bedard's points I'll count the wins and/or a framework being built for wins.
- Mr Ricochet

It’s easy to make hypothetical points and outcomes. How about this point, if Bedard has less points and shorter shifts, who are you hypothetically suggesting is making up the goals for that he’s responsible for?

Because for whatever reason i can copy the link but i can't just copy and paste what the subject is like others can here. I guess I'm old, from now on I'll post the subject matter for you on top of it. I don't want you to be upset about my click bait and how long Bedards shifts are.

I thought i bolded the thing about Musk, like i said i guess I'm getting old
- BetweenTheDots

Don't take it that way, Dots. Wasn't meant that way and as evidence of that I thanked you for explaining....... And I remember the day a long time ago my wiz kid nephew laughed at me and taught me how to copy and paste.

I'm old and dumb in most things but especially technology as far as young people are concerned.

Oh stop it, I'm sure he's trying to make the playoffs
- BetweenTheDots

Next year ….

Don't take it that way, Dots. Wasn't meant that way and as evidence of that I thanked you for explaining....... And I remember the day a long time ago my wiz kid nephew laughed at me and taught me how to copy and paste.

I'm old and dumb in most things but especially technology as far as young people are concerned.
- Mr Ricochet

I don't take it that way at all, i didn't see your response till later.

It’s easy to make hypothetical points and outcomes. How about this point, if Bedard has less points and shorter shifts, who are you hypothetically suggesting is making up the goals for that he’s responsible for?
- paulr

I'm making the same point Rick saw Perry making to Bedard about long shifts. But simple answer, I'll take a fresh Reichel 10 seconds into a shift than a Bedard on his 2nd minute of a shift.