I'm making the same point Rick saw Perry making to Bedard about long shifts. But simple answer, I'll take a fresh Reichel 10 seconds into a shift than a Bedard on his 2nd minute of a shift.
- Mr Ricochet

Reichel? If Bedard scored less Reichel would make up the difference? You took hypothetical in a direction I wasn’t expecting.

Reichel? If Bedard scored less Reichel would make up the difference? You took hypothetical in a direction I wasn’t expecting.
- paulr

Paul, if you're asking me would I rather ice Reichel/Guttman/Boris/Frenchy just starting a shift or Bedard on his 2nd minute of a shift, yes....... Now, with the goalie pulled down a goal under that supposition I'd take Bedard.

Sometimes I forget how good Tavares is. Dude has all the tools in the tool kit in the Ozone. TOR eeks out a point.

Yep that's what we are all saying.
- BetweenTheDots

Yes, and obviously what KFC or Little Nappy is doing. Since LA can clearly see into the future maybe he could PM me the Mega Millions or Power Ball numbers for next drawing.

Paul, if you're asking me would I rather ice Reichel/Guttman/Boris/Frenchy just starting a shift or Bedard on his 2nd minute of a shift, yes....... Now, with the goalie pulled down a goal under that supposition I'd take Bedard.

Sometimes I forget how good Tavares is. Dude has all the tools in the tool kit in the Ozone. TOR eeks out a point.
- Mr Ricochet

No I didn’t ask that. You stated that if Bedard had shorter shifts and less goals there’s a good chance the team would have more points. I asked if Bedard scored less goals who would make up the difference so the team would have more wins.

I don’t like the long shifts or defensive lapses but the fact is if Bedard had less goals the team would have fewer points.

Paul, if you're asking me would I rather ice Reichel/Guttman/Boris/Frenchy just starting a shift or Bedard on his 2nd minute of a shift, yes....... Now, with the goalie pulled down a goal under that supposition I'd take Bedard.

Sometimes I forget how good Tavares is. Dude has all the tools in the tool kit in the Ozone. TOR eeks out a point.
- Mr Ricochet

I'll take the three point game. The more points those Eastern teams accumulate, the more difficult for TB making the playoffs. Yes, I prefer TOR making the playoffs if that knocks out the Bolts. Leafs will lose in the 1st round anyway.

Paul, if you're asking me would I rather ice Reichel/Guttman/Boris/Frenchy just starting a shift or Bedard on his 2nd minute of a shift, yes....... Now, with the goalie pulled down a goal under that supposition I'd take Bedard.

Sometimes I forget how good Tavares is. Dude has all the tools in the tool kit in the Ozone. TOR eeks out a point.
- Mr Ricochet

Betwen periods Anson Carter made an excellent observation about Tavares' game - how good he was as a short space player in the O-zone. He's very good using his stick in tight - delections, tips, redirects.

Wings down 4-2 after two. On their way to their third straight loss since Kane returned.

No I didn’t ask that. You stated that if Bedard had shorter shifts and less goals there’s a good chance the team would have more points. I asked if Bedard scored less goals who would make up the difference so the team would have more wins.

I don’t like the long shifts or defensive lapses but the fact is if Bedard had less goals the team would have fewer points.
- paulr

Firstly, I don't think I said less goals I said less pts. Two different categories, but ok say goals.

I bet they have this internal stat. I'm saying I bet Bedard's expected goals rate goes down a bunch after a shift goes past, say, 50 seconds. .... With that in mind yes, I think they'd have say 1 more win if he kept his shifts under 50 seconds and yes his replacement would have been on the ice during that win(s) and yes Bedard would probably have less pts depending on indeed how many pts he's gotten past 50 seconds on a shift.

I do believe a fresh set of legs on a lesser player gives a club a better chance to win than fatigued legs on a better player.

Wings down 4-2 after two. On their way to their third straight loss since Kane returned.
- boilermaker100

I know this is cyclical but I'm glad the Hawks are not in the East. .... I saw maybe 2 periods of his first game as a Wing, maybe it was the 2nd game, and he did seem like he was moving a good bit more freely.

Betwen periods Anson Carter made an excellent observation about Tavares' game - how good he was as a short space player in the O-zone. He's very good using his stick in tight - delections, tips, redirects.
- RickJ

And his IQ is so damned high. It's said too often but this guy's reads are so good it's almost like he knows where a shot/puck is gonna go before it does.

https://x.com/Mario_Tirab...0ThwTglPlaFrJG45YB0g&s=01

Info about Gajan

Wings down 4-2 after two. On their way to their third straight loss since Kane returned.
- boilermaker100

To be fair - Larkin and Compher are two of their top 4 leading scorers and better players so kind of a problem when the goaltending is rather suspect and they need to outscore teams to win.

So Bedard is a junior player? He’s fricking 18. Coaching staff is letting him play. He doesn’t need to be a two-way guy at age 18. I don’t want to see him digging out pucks along the boards. I’ve seen him backcheck more and block more shots than Kane ever did.

He still looks better in a 2 min shift than half the Hawks forwards.

Reichel has been absolutely brutal this year…. but let’s keep ripping on Bedard. The Hawks have no proven top 6 forwards on this roster.

Oh and Bedard has 10 even strength goals.

No I didn’t ask that. You stated that if Bedard had shorter shifts and less goals there’s a good chance the team would have more points. I asked if Bedard scored less goals who would make up the difference so the team would have more wins.

I don’t like the long shifts or defensive lapses but the fact is if Bedard had less goals the team would have fewer points.
- paulr

Agreed Bedard can be better but he’s a kid. Are we going to hold the vets accountable for lapses on D? How about Reichel who is allergic to contact.

Firstly, I don't think I said less goals I said less pts. Two different categories, but ok say goals.

I bet they have this internal stat. I'm saying I bet Bedard's expected goals rate goes down a bunch after a shift goes past, say, 50 seconds. .... With that in mind yes, I think they'd have say 1 more win if he kept his shifts under 50 seconds and yes his replacement would have been on the ice during that win(s) and yes Bedard would probably have less pts depending on indeed how many pts he's gotten past 50 seconds on a shift.

I do believe a fresh set of legs on a lesser player gives a club a better chance to win than fatigued legs on a better player.
- Mr Ricochet

(at evens because thats what is the predictor of long term success and winning)

No one is close to Bedard's xGF on the team which is why I continue to female dog about the same thing. He's like 21st in the league. Again, by himself. Probs not going to be a whole lot of production if he isn't on the ice.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

At all strengths Bedard is also stupidly ahead of everyone else on the team.

As Raddysh showed last year some guy is gonna show up and get 20. Maybe it's Kurashev's year to back into that for being smart enough to stand in the front of the net.

I love D1ckenson as a shutdown center with some versatility but if him and Foligno are 3 and 4 in scoring - it's an extremely bad team.

Wings down 4-2 after two. On their way to their third straight loss since Kane returned.
- boilermaker100

Since Larkin went down
Oh say don’t overlook that they employ Maata

(at evens because thats what is the predictor of long term success and winning)

No one is close to Bedard's xGF on the team which is why I continue to female dog about the same thing. He's like 21st in the league. Again, by himself. Probs not going to be a whole lot of production if he isn't on the ice.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

At all strengths Bedard is also stupidly ahead of everyone else on the team.

As Raddysh showed last year some guy is gonna show up and get 20. Maybe it's Kurashev's year to back into that for being smart enough to stand in the front of the net.

I love D1ckenson as a shutdown center with some versatility but if him and Foligno are 3 and 4 in scoring - it's an extremely bad team.
- fattybeef

Fatty, I think you're reading IPP. That stat means how often a player gets a point when his team scores while he's on the ice and Bedard's is 90ish. From my fantasy days IIRC anything over 75ish percent means a regression is coming cuz it takes into account the luck of secondary assists.

xGF is an individual stat that takes in loads of measurables when a player shoots as opposed to xGF% that takes into account what team has the better chance to score when a player is on the ice (his defensive abilities added in).

In xGF (individual stat) Bedard ranks 4th on the club behind KK, Jones and Murphy!!

In xGF% (team stat while THAT player is on the ice) he ranks 10th on the Hawks.

Click on xGF and xGF%. https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

If anyone wants to get pointy headed here's a deep dive into how the stats are calculated. https://insidetherink.com...the-stats-expected-goals/

First time I've looked deeper into the fancies this yr. First yr outa fantasy and I've avoided this cuz it's so damn time consuming and becomes an hours long rabbit hole.

But looking at them now the fancies aren't too kind to Bedard. Click around for one's self. I knew his defense was a work in progress but man he ranks 23rd on the club in HDCF% (high danger chances for and against while he's on the ice). He's at 35.22%!!! ....Zaitsev ranks 1st!! https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

My Guy Boris shows well in quite a few fancies not so good in others. KK going by the stats is the most dangerous Hawk. The eye test backs up Anderson. Kid shows a lotta IQ.

https://x.com/Mario_Tirabassi/status/1734234249987756108?t=Uj0ThwTglPlaFrJG45YB0g&s=01

Info about Gajan
- BetweenTheDots

We'd wish Gajan's numbers were better but the stats that matters is how much he's playing and he's playing a ton. Get his reps in at each level is what's important for development, assuming of course the Hawks evaluators are right on the kid and wrong lon My Guy Hrabal!!

Thanks for the description of the link, Dots!!

We'd wish Gajan's numbers were better but the stats that matters is how much he's playing and he's playing a ton. Get his reps in at each level is what's important for development, assuming of course the Hawks evaluators are right on the kid and wrong lon My Guy Hrabal!!

Thanks for the description of the link, Dots!!
- Mr Ricochet

Where does the USHL rank amongst the other leagues in total goal scoring?

First time I've looked deeper into the fancies this yr. First yr outa fantasy and I've avoided this cuz it's so damn time consuming and becomes an hours long rabbit hole.

But looking at them now the fancies aren't too kind to Bedard. Click around for one's self. I knew his defense was a work in progress but man he ranks 23rd on the club in HDCF% (high danger chances for and against while he's on the ice). He's at 35.22%!!! ....Zaitsev ranks 1st!! https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

My Guy Boris shows well in quite a few fancies not so good in others. KK going by the stats is the most dangerous Hawk. The eye test backs up Anderson. Kid shows a lotta IQ.
- Mr Ricochet

I know you like him, but I just don’t see the love for Boris (at least not this much). He’s a classic 4th liner. He tries hard, and hits things, but he’s never had any consistency to his game. He shows up really well for 2-3 then disappears for stretches. I believe that LR has mentioned as much earlier this year.

Combine that with the fact that 58 and 52 can play center and it’s tough to force his way in the roster. If/when AA returns, I don’t see him back on the team.

Where does the USHL rank amongst the other leagues in total goal scoring?
- Chunk

Stingy. ..... USHL is known for it being tough to score goals along with the WHL. OHL in the middle offensively and defensively and the QMJHL pure offense. Of course things vary from team to team. NAHL allows tons of overagers so goalies get a good workout.

Up until this yr I was a guy who had a really good handle on the USHL. Things have changed dramatically in RicochetLand. This yr will be my 3rd where I have not seen a USHL game live and thru my subscription have only seen 1 USHL game this yr and that was to see Gajan and Green Bay vs Dubuque...... The NTDP can not be seen on the USHL subscription anymore as they are doin the Notre Dame football thing gettin all the cash for themselves.

Been physically unable to sit at an arena and ran a USHL website for 15 yrs and have given that up too. So I'm way behind but have watched Major Junior more than ever. ....... Just an FYI for when I speak about the lil ole USHL.

Soon I'll watch some of the backlog of GB games and get a good feel for Gajan this yr.

I know you like him, but I just don’t see the love for Boris (at least not this much). He’s a classic 4th liner. He tries hard, and hits things, but he’s never had any consistency to his game. He shows up really well for 2-3 then disappears for stretches. I believe that LR has mentioned as much earlier this year.

Combine that with the fact that 58 and 52 can play center and it’s tough to force his way in the roster. If/when AA returns, I don’t see him back on the team.
- Chunk

Chunk, yea I do like Boris but I wouldn't chirp about him if this were the 2010 Hawks. It's just my opinion, and the fancies back it up a bit, that on THIS roster he's a top, at least middle, 6 guy. He has some offensive chops most on this roster don't......... Nothing more than that.

LR and KD have their reasons and I'll defer in my own mind.

Advice please? We'd like to attend an away game, somewhere we haven't gone before (we've done only midwest away games). There's a stretch of California games in March. We know nothing about the stadiums nor the cities themselves! Well I've been in LA a few times but no clue where the stadium is.

Any recommendations for a good game experience plus a day or two in the area? We're the walking around all day exploring types, not "visit the stores" or "take in a show"

3/19 LA
3/21 Anaheim
3/23 San Jose

There's also Arizona on 3/5. I really don't want to support hockey in AZ... but if there's a good reason....

Karen

So Bedard is a junior player? He’s fricking 18. Coaching staff is letting him play. He doesn’t need to be a two-way guy at age 18. I don’t want to see him digging out pucks along the boards. I’ve seen him backcheck more and block more shots than Kane ever did.

He still looks better in a 2 min shift than half the Hawks forwards.

Reichel has been absolutely brutal this year…. but let’s keep ripping on Bedard. The Hawks have no proven top 6 forwards on this roster.

Oh and Bedard has 10 even strength goals.
- bhawks2241

When you invest in a player and are in a rebuild like Chicago, you go the extra mile to see your prospects fight through adversity. I am buoyed by what skill and production he has displayed - the positive results ……he has the ability/just have to get it out of him

Let me hypothesize here: Cole Caufield has struggled to score this season. Give up on him too?