David Savard to Toronto gaining steam.
- Scabeh

no thanks - no offense I just think that dude is spent.

why our illustrious GM chose to sign fragile Klingberg for 4.1M and couldn't sign up for 3 years of Schenn at 2.5 blows my mind.

Leafs didn't need what Klingberg could bring if he was playing well - and then you tie up that much CAP in a guy that's essentially one dimensional... really doesn't make any sense to me.

Hot take: trade Sammy for picks/prospects when Woll is healthy, go with Woll + Jones.

Use the cap space with Klingbergs (rip), trade for Savard, Parayko retained and have an extra few bucks to boost up the bottom 6.
- joel878

Let's see how Jones fairs tonight vs the Rags.....

some post Ohtani options for the Jays

https://x.com/DownToBlack.../1734604698202919394?s=20

Soler...just a DH, no defense and runs like crap. but the Jays need HR?

all feels super underwhelming
- senstroll

I posted in a previous thread:
Sign Bellinger, overpay Yamamoto, bring back keirmaer or hernandez and get a dh....i guess soler would work.
If yamamoto works, you can move monoah if hes not working.

It's funny how they seem to think we aren't "great" any more in the first place? Why not? They have a very low opinion of themselves and their country. What does "great" mean exactly? I have a hunch it's a lot like "woke" - it doesn't have a firm definition and it usually translates into whatever the person saying it doesn't like.

Great = things I like.

Woke = things I don't like.
- GalacticStone

I don't think your country is great. It's broken. Just my opinion, though.

no thanks - no offense I just think that dude is spent.

why our illustrious GM chose to sign fragile Klingberg for 4.1M and couldn't sign up for 3 years of Schenn at 2.5 blows my mind.

Leafs didn't need what Klingberg could bring if he was playing well - and then you tie up that much CAP in a guy that's essentially one dimensional... really doesn't make any sense to me.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Leafs needed scoring on the backend and someone to move the puck around on the pp. .i believe that was what Klingberg was suppose to help with and when he was healthy (2-3 games) he looked decent.
We all knew defensively, he wasnt good.

I posted in a previous thread:
Sign Bellinger, overpay Yamamoto, bring back keirmaer or hernandez and get a dh....i guess soler would work.
If yamamoto works, you can move monoah if hes not working.
- Fakepartofme

Bellinger, sure there is a bit of risk there..not sure what version you will get

Yamamoto, like I said dont see it.

still need a 3b

Hot take: trade Sammy for picks/prospects when Woll is healthy, go with Woll + Jones.

Use the cap space with Klingbergs (rip), trade for Savard, Parayko retained and have an extra few bucks to boost up the bottom 6.
- joel878

I would like to see more from jones (which we will), my only worry is if one of those two get injured, whos the back up?
But im not 100% against the idea of moving sammy, specially if it helps to clear space for a legit top 4 dman.

no thanks - no offense I just think that dude is spent.

why our illustrious GM chose to sign fragile Klingberg for 4.1M and couldn't sign up for 3 years of Schenn at 2.5 blows my mind.

Leafs didn't need what Klingberg could bring if he was playing well - and then you tie up that much CAP in a guy that's essentially one dimensional... really doesn't make any sense to me.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Savard doesn't produce much offense anymore but if you're looking for a guy that can eat minutes, play well on the PK and bring a physical game, he fits that bill perfectly. Only problem is that he's signed for one more year and that he tends to get injured blocking shots.

Oh and he plays the right side, which Toronto needs as well. I think he's not a bad fit.

Klingberg was just a mistake, the majority here knew it all along.

Savard doesn't produce much offense anymore but if you're looking for a guy that can eat minutes, play well on the PK and bring a physical game, he fits that bill perfectly. Only problem is that he's signed for one more year and that he tends to get injured blocking shots.

Oh and he plays the right side, which Toronto needs as well. I think he's not a bad fit.

Klingberg was just a mistake, the majority here knew it all along.
- Scabeh

I don't think a contender will want Savard to eat mins...plus 3.5M is too much for him now, maybe next year when they can double retain.

I was thinking maybe a 50% retained Dvorak could bring back something nice but looks like he has been pretty rough.

Bellinger, sure there is a bit of risk there..not sure what version you will get

Yamamoto, like I said dont see it.

still need a 3b
- senstroll

I dont see it either...hence they would have to overpay...even then the odds are low. Imo.
Get 3b via trade perhaps.
Or a cheap filler? Solano (meh, ok), wendle, moustakas.

Or pay chappy.

Sometimes AI can be fun.
Lol

https://twitter.com/JFran...KBbJ5BHEkl2iQW9WLb0A&s=19

Sometimes AI can be fun.
Lol

https://twitter.com/JFran...KBbJ5BHEkl2iQW9WLb0A&s=19
- Fakepartofme

thats wild, a lot of people are going to have their already mushed brains in a puddle

no thanks - no offense I just think that dude is spent.

why our illustrious GM chose to sign fragile Klingberg for 4.1M and couldn't sign up for 3 years of Schenn at 2.5 blows my mind.

Leafs didn't need what Klingberg could bring if he was playing well - and then you tie up that much CAP in a guy that's essentially one dimensional... really doesn't make any sense to me.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Zero offense pylon. Pass on that and dodge a bullet. He's not terrible, he's just not the BIG HARD D the Leafs need.

I don't think your country is great. It's broken. Just my opinion, though.
- fifty__missions

I won't argue there. Things are definitely broken here. And no matter how broken you guys think your government is, it does get some things right that we don't.

In a perfect world, I would take the good things about both and combine them into something better.

Let's see how Jones fairs tonight vs the Rags.....
- dmnted

I have a bad feeling this isn't going to go well...

I don't think a contender will want Savard to eat mins...plus 3.5M is too much for him now, maybe next year when they can double retain.

I was thinking maybe a 50% retained Dvorak could bring back something nice but looks like he has been pretty rough.
- Santo_44

I honestly don't see what Dvorak brings to the table. If someone wants him, I'd gladly trade him away.

Savard plays well enough to help a contender, when healthy. He's no bargain but the Leafs would be better off him with than if Klingberg was still playing.

I have a bad feeling this isn't going to go well...
- Whipper

Ye, of little faith…..

In Jones we trust

💙

I won't argue there. Things are definitely broken here. And no matter how broken you guys think your government is, it does get some things right that we don't.

In a perfect world, I would take the good things about both and combine them into something better.
- GalacticStone

Id like to see this list

Ye, of little faith…..

In Jones we trust

💙
- mr.sir

Can we nickname him "Howie"? At least then the jokes just write themselves.

If he gives up a stinker "Things can only get better" or "No one is to blame"....

I have a bad feeling this isn't going to go well...
- Whipper

Dont worry about him Bogo.

Jones knows hes got to step up here. I can see him defeating the Russian for the #1 spot.

Can we nickname him "Howie"? At least then the jokes just write themselves.

If he gives up a stinker "Things can only get better" or "No one is to blame"....


- Cush29

As long as they don’t EVER play that (frank)ing counting crows abortion

Last nights game was just a mixed bag of great and 🤬🤬🤬. Sammy looked slow and flopaliciously bad. Seeing JT get 999 and 1000 though to epic chorus of boo's was beyond priceless!

Take the point

Bring on Jones. See how that goes.

I have a bad feeling this isn't going to go well...
- Whipper

Jones was good in Seattle last year. The stretch of carrying the team when the rest were all down injured especially. Had the odd game off a little but overall was sound. Think he will be fine and guys likely will be a little tighter in front of him.

I would agree with this in general - that a Top4 would be the best option.

But I can't believe a physical 3rd pairing guy wouldn't be a big help.

Islander's got Bortuzzo for a couple of non-top round picks - Zadorov was also not expensive...

having someone who can contribute on the PK and eat some d-zone minutes is needed more than another "offensive" guy

I can't believe the radio talking heads when they refer to Tyson Barrie being available - what the previous 'experiment" wasn't disasterous enough? A defenseman that can't defend AT ALL is not what is needed.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Bortozzo looked like he had trouble standing up yesterday

I honestly don't see what Dvorak brings to the table. If someone wants him, I'd gladly trade him away.

Savard plays well enough to help a contender, when healthy. He's no bargain but the Leafs would be better off him with than if Klingberg was still playing.
- Scabeh

Leafs got lucky with Klingberg

They also got lucky for not signing Dumba to 4M in the process.

I don't mind a Savard player but only if his cap hit comes back to the Leafs at 1M or less...which just will not happen with him with the term.