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mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Dec 15 @ 3:08 PM ET
The assets we would have to give up to dump him on the Oilers would be significant.
- Mashadar

Whatever it takes
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:09 PM ET
You'll be traded soon
- mr.peanut

to the Oilers?

I haven't played hockey in years, but ok.

If I have to go...

whats coming back, lol?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:11 PM ET
The assets we would have to give up to dump him on the Oilers would be significant.
- Mashadar


this is true and funny , BUT :
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:13 PM ET
to the Oilers?

I haven't played hockey in years, but ok.

If I have to go...

whats coming back, lol?

- deadpoulet



deaddinde?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
well there are probably players that both sides are interested in, wouldn't be out of this world.
- Pat1993


I dont think they are a good match for a trade as of now
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
deaddinde?
- pete26



yes!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Dec 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
I dont think they are a good match for a trade as of now
- deadpoulet


ok, bygones then.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:31 PM ET
ok, bygones then.
- Pat1993


nobody has been able to say what the Oilers would send our way or how mtl has really something that the Oilers need and that would make sense for both teams

yeah bygone
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:38 PM ET
nobody has been able to say what the Oilers would send our way or how mtl has really something that the Oilers need and that would make sense for both teams

yeah bygone

- deadpoulet

you are right, difficult to see a trade between these 2 teams. unless it's a really big one. Draisaitl big. so yeah, probably not happening.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 15 @ 3:52 PM ET
you are right, difficult to see a trade between these 2 teams. unless it's a really big one. Draisaitl big. so yeah, probably not happening.
- fidopro


Can you imagine Ken Holland sitting in front of the press trying to convince people getting rid of Draisaitl was the right move to try and win the cup?
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Dec 15 @ 3:54 PM ET
Can you imagine Ken Holland sitting in front of the press trying to convince people getting rid of Draisaitl was the right move to try and win the cup?

- Scabeh


Have you ever met an Oilers fan??

It may not be as difficult as you think..
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
you are right, difficult to see a trade between these 2 teams. unless it's a really big one. Draisaitl big. so yeah, probably not happening.
- fidopro


my point as well is that I dont get why we focus so much on the Oilers with 30 other teams in the league

I dont see Allen has having value, but it would put an end to the 3 goalies carroussel once and for all and let Primeau and Montembault get the starts that they need. I would not expect a piece helping the team coming back
If for a defenseman, Oilers would target Matheson or Savard, not Harris. Mtl is not doing that and no, Draisaitl is not coming to town in a god damn sleight

if they put Monahan with kids on the 2nd and he catches fire again, that could be a late first round pick for the HABs coming back. By then Newhook will be back and they will be able to let him finish the season as a C.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 15 @ 4:04 PM ET
Can you imagine Ken Holland sitting in front of the press trying to convince people getting rid of Draisaitl was the right move to try and win the cup?

- Scabeh

depends what they get back in return I guess. he'll be a ufa in 18 months, they might want to cash in.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
Have you ever met an Oilers fan??

It may not be as difficult as you think..

- pete26

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:14 PM ET
my point as well is that I dont get why we focus so much on the Oilers with 30 other teams in the league

I dont see Allen has having value, but it would put an end to the 3 goalies carroussel once and for all and let Primeau and Montembault get the starts that they need. I would not expect a piece helping the team coming back
If for a defenseman, Oilers would target Matheson or Savard, not Harris. Mtl is not doing that and no, Draisaitl is not coming to town in a god damn sleight

if they put Monahan with kids on the 2nd and he catches fire again, that could be a late first round pick for the HABs coming back. By then Newhook will be back and they will be able to let him finish the season as a C.

- deadpoulet


both Allen and Savard are not going anywhere this time around imo. next year, when they'll be pending UFAs, then there will be a market.
this year it's Monahan, Pearson...
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
Have you ever met an Oilers fan??

It may not be as difficult as you think..

- pete26


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 15 @ 4:18 PM ET
both Allen and Savard are not going anywhere this time around imo. next year, when they'll be pending UFAs, then there will be a market.
this year it's Monahan, Pearson...

- fidopro


Doubt there's much of a market for Pearson. He probably has as much value as Dadonov had last year.

Monahan will bring back something, though likely not a first rounder after all.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 15 @ 4:18 PM ET
Doubt there's much of a market for Pearson. He probably has as much value as Dadonov had last year.

Monahan will bring back something, though likely not a first rounder after all.

- Scabeh

totally agreed for Pearson.
Monahan, depends. a top6 center with experience, at 2M per.... there might be many buyers and that would drive the price up.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
and that of course is if they do not extend Allen next fall, someting like 2x4M. because you know... that's what we do here.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
and that of course is if they do not extend Allen next fall, someting like 2x4M. because you know... that's what we do here.
- fidopro


Oh please, we've had that discussion before.

It made sense to try and give stability to the goaltending position for 3 years. Montembeault was considerably less proven, Primeau was shaky in the AHL and we had nothing else.

We don't have the same need next season and moving forward. Allen will retire and become a goaltending consultant for the team.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:28 PM ET
Oh please, we've had that discussion before.

It made sense to try and give stability to the goaltending position for 3 years. Montembeault was considerably less proven, Primeau was shaky in the AHL and we had nothing else.

We don't have the same need next season and moving forward. Allen will retire and become a goaltending consultant for the team.

- Scabeh

would you give a 2nd round pick to trade him right now? so Primeau and Monty play under 'normal' circonstances and keep on progressing, and put an end to this nonsense ménage à 3?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
would you give a 2nd round pick to trade him right now? so Primeau and Monty play under 'normal' circonstances and keep on progressing, and put an end to this nonsense ménage à 3?
- fidopro


you dont throw away picks like that when you are in a rebuild

and they wont have to
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:41 PM ET
you dont throw away picks like that when you are in a rebuild

and they wont have to

- deadpoulet

nobody is taking Allen with that contract unless you give them a pick.
oh they can keep 3 goalies, slowing down the development of the 2 kids.
I tought HuGO said this season was about development.
I probably misunderstood sorry.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Dec 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
nobody has been able to say what the Oilers would send our way or how mtl has really something that the Oilers need and that would make sense for both teams

yeah bygone

- deadpoulet



the oilers are in need of help on the backend and in net, the habs potentially have both, so a trade is possible imho. doesn't mean it'll happen.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Dec 15 @ 4:48 PM ET
nobody is taking Allen with that contract unless you give them a pick.
oh they can keep 3 goalies, slowing down the development of the 2 kids.
I tought HuGO said this season was about development.
I probably misunderstood sorry.

- fidopro



that's pushing it lol
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