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ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Dec 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
Paul Hamilton calling out adams for his pathetic offseason and flawed vision for this season is great

Refusing to call for adams job under this premise that firing everyone every 2 years doesn't work when it's going to be 4 years, then listing st Louis as the only team to fire their coach and win the cup, using the cup as the only measurement as the only payoff worthy of a firing is ridiculous

ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Dec 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
Why would anyone want adams to have another chance? He has no experience to lean back on and hasn't proved one time that he is capable of being a GM of a successful team here

This offseason is just as if not more critical than last and he threw up a big fat zero
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
Why would anyone want adams to have another chance? He has no experience to lean back on and hasn't proved one time that he is capable of being a GM of a successful team here

This offseason is just as if not more critical than last and he threw up a big fat zero

- ieetbred

Whiner!
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Dec 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
Partial quote from Tim Graham's Athletic article after the Bruin loss......

"....with power-play coach Matt Ellis, the former Sabres forward who recorded one power-play assist in his NHL career and hadn’t coached professional hockey until Granato hired him 228 games ago."

What a f__king joke of a coach Granato is and what a f__king joke of an organization the Sabres are.

The Sabres PP is so pathetic, here's what i would do. Put Greenway on PP1. Tell him to stand in front of the net and screen the goalie. Period. Tell Dahlin and Thompson to fire away. Have Cozens and Benson crash the net with Greenway. Those are the only 3 guys on the team that will get dirty.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 11:50 AM ET
Partial quote from Tim Graham's Athletic article after the Bruin loss......

"....with power-play coach Matt Ellis, the former Sabres forward who recorded one power-play assist in his NHL career and hadn’t coached professional hockey until Granato hired him 228 games ago."

What a f__king joke of a coach Granato is and what a f__king joke of an organization the Sabres are.

The Sabres PP is so pathetic, here's what i would do. Put Greenway on PP1. Tell him to stand in front of the net and screen the goalie. Period. Tell Dahlin and Thompson to fire away. Have Cozens and Benson crash the net with Greenway. Those are the only 3 guys on the team that will get dirty.

- SabreWest

Crybaby!
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Dec 30 @ 11:53 AM ET
Partial quote from Tim Graham's Athletic article after the Bruin loss......

"....with power-play coach Matt Ellis, the former Sabres forward who recorded one power-play assist in his NHL career and hadn’t coached professional hockey until Granato hired him 228 games ago."

What a f__king joke of a coach Granato is and what a f__king joke of an organization the Sabres are.

The Sabres PP is so pathetic, here's what i would do. Put Greenway on PP1. Tell him to stand in front of the net and screen the goalie. Period. Tell Dahlin and Thompson to fire away. Have Cozens and Benson crash the net with Greenway. Those are the only 3 guys on the team that will get dirty.

- SabreWest


Not that it makes a material difference to your overall point but Lance says Ellis was KA's hire

https://x.com/LLysowski/s.../1741124373031887110?s=20
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 11:55 AM ET
Does Appert get to roll a lineup he would choose or what Adams chooses ?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 11:57 AM ET
Not that it makes a material difference to your overall point but Lance says Ellis was KA's hire

https://x.com/LLysowski/s.../1741124373031887110?s=20

- Hank Balling

Maybe Adams is like a Secret Ninja Hockey Assassin. Sent by Darcy to destroy all Sabres fans will.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:06 PM ET
Does Appert get to roll a lineup he would choose or what Adams chooses ?
- Buff36

if kulich or rosen was up and appert was coaching

I have no doubt kulich and rosen would be in the middle 6, not on a larry line
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 30 @ 12:07 PM ET
Does Appert get to roll a lineup he would choose or what Adams chooses ?
- Buff36


Good question, if he does, this situation screams of Adams trying out internal options, which would indicate the pressure has begun from above.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 30 @ 12:09 PM ET
Not that it makes a material difference to your overall point but Lance says Ellis was KA's hire

https://x.com/LLysowski/s.../1741124373031887110?s=20

- Hank Balling


😂 😂
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 12:35 PM ET
if kulich or rosen was up and appert was coaching

I have no doubt kulich and rosen would be in the middle 6, not on a larry line

- homiedclown

Agreed, this isn't a good look for Adams personal hire Ellis not getting the Bench tonight
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Dec 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
Sabres projected lineup

Jeff Skinner -- Tage Thompson -- Alex Tuch

JJ Peterka -- Dylan Cozens -- Jack Quinn

Jordan Greenway -- Casey Mittelstadt -- Zach Benson

Zemgus Girgensons -- Peyton Krebs -- Kyle Okposo

Rasmus Dahlin -- Mattias Samuelsson

Owen Power -- Henri Jokiharju

Ryan Johnson -- Connor Clifton

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Devon Levi

Scratched: Victor Olofsson, Erik Johnson, Eric Robinson, Eric Comrie

Injured: none

Status report

Neither team held a morning skate. … Tarasov could start after he was scratched Friday for a 6-5 overtime win against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Merzlikins, a goalie, left the game against Toronto with an illness and was replaced by Martin. … Girgensons, who has missed 16 games with a lower-body injury, could return against Columbus. The Sabres will need to make a roster move to activate him from injured reserve. If he doesn’t play, Robinson, a former Blue Jackets forward, would likely draw in alongside Krebs and Okposo.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 30 @ 12:50 PM ET
Kevyn has had *looks at calendar* 10 (frank)ing months to trade Eric Comrie. And now this poop wagon is down to 11:59:55

(frank) you, Kevyn.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
Tell you Boy's this past off-season was a Joke and it's rearing it's nasty Head!
Should have just given Me a Bottle of Jack, 10 Hookers a Ounce of Coke and My Kicked Up Chocolate Peanut Butter Fudge and we would have gotten some players to sign on the Dotted line. Might not have known what they were signing by the End of the tense Negotiations but they were Smiling when they did it. Would have Pictures taken for proof just in Case any funny stuff happens.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
Not that it makes a material difference to your overall point but Lance says Ellis was KA's hire

https://x.com/LLysowski/s.../1741124373031887110?s=20

- Hank Balling


yeah, brilliant (frank)ing response. No one's ever made a bad hire before, and once you're hired, you can't be un-hired.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:12 PM ET
Bills working out La'la Collins OT, if he's got his Head right and Healed from that ACL/MCL Tear could be a nice get for the PS for Good Veteran depth
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
if kulich or rosen was up and appert was coaching

I have no doubt kulich and rosen would be in the middle 6, not on a larry line

- homiedclown

You mean 4 minutes isn't enough for a prospect to get adjusted to the NHL?
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
Not that it makes a material difference to your overall point but Lance says Ellis was KA's hire

https://x.com/LLysowski/s.../1741124373031887110?s=20

- Hank Balling

He deleted the post.
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Dec 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
Sabres projected lineup

Jeff Skinner -- Tage Thompson -- Alex Tuch

JJ Peterka -- Dylan Cozens -- Jack Quinn

Jordan Greenway -- Casey Mittelstadt -- Zach Benson

Zemgus Girgensons -- Peyton Krebs -- Kyle Okposo

Rasmus Dahlin -- Mattias Samuelsson

Owen Power -- Henri Jokiharju

Ryan Johnson -- Connor Clifton

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Devon Levi

Scratched: Victor Olofsson, Erik Johnson, Eric Robinson, Eric Comrie

Injured: none

Status report

Neither team held a morning skate. … Tarasov could start after he was scratched Friday for a 6-5 overtime win against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Merzlikins, a goalie, left the game against Toronto with an illness and was replaced by Martin. … Girgensons, who has missed 16 games with a lower-body injury, could return against Columbus. The Sabres will need to make a roster move to activate him from injured reserve. If he doesn’t play, Robinson, a former Blue Jackets forward, would likely draw in alongside Krebs and Okposo.

- lulags



No Erics allowed
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 2:18 PM ET
Sabres not activate Girgensons ?
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
No Erics allowed
- Frizzlefry

Erik's mom had to be different!
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Dec 30 @ 2:28 PM ET

I am a long suffering Sabres fan that lives in BC. I also watch Canuck games and support the Canucks. They have the same crappy history of the Sabres. It must be something about the year they both came into the NHL. And one other common denominator, the Canucks have a lousy owner whom the fans out here hate.

However, they made some smart moves within the past 12 months or so. At the start of the 2022/23 season, this was their coaching staff:

Bruce Boudreau, Head Coach.
Brad Shaw, Assistant Coach.
Jason King, Assistant Coach.
Ian Clark, Goal-tending Coach.

Apparently all the players loved Boudreau as a coach. He was a "players coach". But he's soft as vanilla ice cream. They were brutal at the beginning of last year and they eventually fired him and all their coaches.

These are the Canucks coaches right now:

Rick Tocchet - Tough as nails player, no nonense coach
Adam Foot - Tough as nails player, no nonence defence coach
Mike Yeo - former NHL coach with a record of 263-217-62. He won a Stanley Cup as an Assistant Coach on the Penguins.
Ian Clark - Goaltending Coach. Been coaching goalies in the NHL since 2000.

Jeremy Coliton coaches their farm team in Abbotsford. The former NHL coach had a 87-92-26 record.

Tocchet has established a culture of accountability. He sits players who don't compete and play the style he wants. He doesn't care if their feelings get hurt. He calls them out in the local media often - to send them a message. They either adapt or they get sent down to the farm team.

The Canucks management didn;t sit on their hands this off season. They brought in guys with tenacity, grit and PK abilities such as:

Teddy Blueger, Sam Lafferty, Pius Suter, Ian Cole, Carson Soucey, Nikita Zadorov. They brought in Casey Desmith as a back up to Thatcher Demko and he has been excellent.

Last year, the Canucks finished 22nd overall with 83 points. The Sabres finished 19th overall with 91 points. This year, the Canucks are 1st overall and headed to the playoffs. The Sabres are sitting in 27th place and preparing for another Top 10 draft pick.

IMO, Adams and Granato are equally culpable for this mess. They along with their assistant coaches should be fired. They should be replaced with a real President of Hockey Operations, a real GM with experience, a real coach with experience and some real NHL assistant coaches with experience.

The core players are probably fine but obviously they need to change the make up of the team. The cupboards are full of prospects and potential. This doesn't need to be a tear-down. If they make the right hires, this could be a quick reset. Maybe they could make a run for the playoffs but probably not. But they could definitely set themselves up now to do a Canucks type leap next year - if they don't wait any longer and f--k it up.

Having said all of the above, i have zero faith in Pegula or the organization to make the necessary tough decisions. The suffering will continue.







washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
I am a long suffering Sabres fan that lives in BC. I also watch Canuck games and support the Canucks. They have the same crappy history of the Sabres. It must be something about the year they both came into the NHL. And one other common denominator, the Canucks have a lousy owner whom the fans out here hate.

However, they made some smart moves within the past 12 months or so. At the start of the 2022/23 season, this was their coaching staff:

Bruce Boudreau, Head Coach.
Brad Shaw, Assistant Coach.
Jason King, Assistant Coach.
Ian Clark, Goal-tending Coach.

Apparently all the players loved Boudreau as a coach. He was a "players coach". But he's soft as vanilla ice cream. They were brutal at the beginning of last year and they eventually fired him and all their coaches.

These are the Canucks coaches right now:

Rick Tocchet - Tough as nails player, no nonense coach
Adam Foot - Tough as nails player, no nonence defence coach
Mike Yeo - former NHL coach with a record of 263-217-62. He won a Stanley Cup as an Assistant Coach on the Penguins.
Ian Clark - Goaltending Coach. Been coaching goalies in the NHL since 2000.

Jeremy Coliton coaches their farm team in Abbotsford. The former NHL coach had a 87-92-26 record.

Tocchet has established a culture of accountability. He sits players who don't compete and play the style he wants. He doesn't care if their feelings get hurt. He calls them out in the local media often - to send them a message. They either adapt or they get sent down to the farm team.

The Canucks management didn;t sit on their hands this off season. They brought in guys with tenacity, grit and PK abilities such as:

Teddy Blueger, Sam Lafferty, Pius Suter, Ian Cole, Carson Soucey, Nikita Zadorov. They brought in Casey Desmith as a back up to Thatcher Demko and he has been excellent.

Last year, the Canucks finished 22nd overall with 83 points. The Sabres finished 19th overall with 91 points. This year, the Canucks are 1st overall and headed to the playoffs. The Sabres are sitting in 27th place and preparing for another Top 10 draft pick.

IMO, Adams and Granato are equally culpable for this mess. They along with their assistant coaches should be fired. They should be replaced with a real President of Hockey Operations, a real GM with experience, a real coach with experience and some real NHL assistant coaches with experience.

The core players are probably fine but obviously they need to change the make up of the team. The cupboards are full of prospects and potential. This doesn't need to be a tear-down. If they make the right hires, this could be a quick reset. Maybe they could make a run for the playoffs but probably not. But they could definitely set themselves up now to do a Canucks type leap next year - if they don't wait any longer and f--k it up.

Having said all of the above, i have zero faith in Pegula or the organization to make the necessary tough decisions. The suffering will continue.

- SabreWest



Great blog, strong finish.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 30 @ 3:08 PM ET
These things take time
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