He hasn't adapted to the modern NHL. You wouldn't know that if you saw it. He plays the same way he has played for the last 20 years. He is still abysmal in handling players. He deserves credit for how he has the team playing his system and how he has them playing as a team. However, when you look at all the data and all the information available, it's not sustainable. It's not how you win long term in the NHL. The Flyers are in a good spot to make the playoffs. They can be competitive against anyone with the way they're playing right now. It still comes down to the big picture. How is this franchise going to react? Are going to sell players if the right deals come along and prioritize the rebuild over winning? Time will tell. This is the same kind of situation as when I told you Fletcher's moves would wind up hurting the Flyers more than helping them.
- MJL

Jones, Briere and Torts have all stated recently they are not changing their plans because of the teams success. They will not be buyers, and I believe they will not be sellers unless they get an offer they cannot refuse. They will most likely keep this team in tact for the season. Instead of bashing them because of what Fletcher did, why don’t you give them the benefit of the doubt until they do something that deserves bashing?

Btw, did you see how Atkinson was greeted at the bench once the Flyers killed that penalty in the 3rd? This team is as tight knit right know as you can get!

what was vancouver picked to place? Arizona?
- hello it's me 2050

I don’t know and I don’t care, both teams are soft and I really don’t think either will fair well as the season goes along. What did you think of Vancouver last night? They are a soft team and you will see them come back to earth this second half.

I guarantee you Tony, Nicky and Mikey will kick the crap out of Connor, Tucker and Kyle!

You just embarrass yourself every single day on here, because you just can’t admit you are wrong about Torts, about this team, about everything. If you want to walk the plank with your Torts bashing be my guest. No one takes your serious at this point.
- jd250

I am just curious do you think you embarrass yourself every day on these boards?

I am just curious do you think you embarrass yourself every day on these boards?
- hello it's me 2050

I bring content, controversy and most importantly conversation to this forum.

I don’t know and I don’t care, both teams are soft and I really don’t think either will fair well as the season goes along. What did you think of Vancouver last night? They are a soft team and you will see them come back to earth this second half.

I guarantee you Tony, Nicky and Mikey will kick the crap out of Connor, Tucker and Kyle!
- jd250

you keep touting where the flyers where picked as why torts will win, isn't also relevant where those 2 teas where picked to finish? Since that is what your basing it on?

didnt see the game so no idea.

I hope torts does win the COY as I am about being entertained. That will go a long way towards giving him an extension.

I bring content, controversy and most importantly conversation to this forum.
- jd250

you didnt answer the question.

you didnt answer the question.
- hello it's me 2050

I can’t control what people think, so I don’t even try.

I can’t control what people think, so I don’t even try.
- jd250

RR with a D low under 15 minutes. How did he look?

Jones, Briere and Torts have all stated recently they are not changing their plans because of the teams success. They will not be buyers, and I believe they will not be sellers unless they get an offer they cannot refuse. They will most likely keep this team in tact for the season. Instead of bashing them because of what Fletcher did, why don’t you give them the benefit of the doubt until they do something that deserves bashing?

Btw, did you see how Atkinson was greeted at the bench once the Flyers killed that penalty in the 3rd? This team is as tight knit right know as you can get!
- jd250

They can be tight knit without giving out bear hugs that put some of the best players in the world on pp’s. I despise fake fights after clean hits

RR with a D low under 15 minutes. How did he look?
- hello it's me 2050

15 was perfect for him. He was solid

Seeler was a boss all game long.

So TK?

Another good indicator is goal differential. Right now I am truly wondering if the Devils are what they are with a-13, and as I stated I don’t fear the Islanders at -11. I think a team to watch is the penguins with a +10. Right now the Flyers are in great shape.
- jd250

The Devils have had Dougie Hamilton, Jack Hughes and Hischier miss time with injuries, and their goaltending has been atrocious. And they are still just 4 points back.

You just embarrass yourself every single day on here, because you just can’t admit you are wrong about Torts, about this team, about everything. If you want to walk the plank with your Torts bashing be my guest. No one takes your serious at this point.
- jd250

We've been here before jd. We know how it turns out. Again, there is a public record that is all the information needed. You told me I walked the plank with Fletcher. How did it turn out. Actually, many may not like me but they all take me seriously. They all hang on every post I make. The public record is all of the proof that I need.

Jones, Briere and Torts have all stated recently they are not changing their plans because of the teams success. They will not be buyers, and I believe they will not be sellers unless they get an offer they cannot refuse. They will most likely keep this team in tact for the season. Instead of bashing them because of what Fletcher did, why don’t you give them the benefit of the doubt until they do something that deserves bashing?

Btw, did you see how Atkinson was greeted at the bench once the Flyers killed that penalty in the 3rd? This team is as tight knit right know as you can get!
- jd250

Actions mean more than words. If the Flyers are in a playoff spot come the trade deadline. I would be shocked if they traded players for future assets. They may not buy that is not being committed to a rebuild. That is being committed to the current team. How does this organization deserve a benefit of the doubt? For a 20 game streak of good hockey? LOL. I'm not as gullible as you are.

I don’t know and I don’t care, both teams are soft and I really don’t think either will fair well as the season goes along. What did you think of Vancouver last night? They are a soft team and you will see them come back to earth this second half.

I guarantee you Tony, Nicky and Mikey will kick the crap out of Connor, Tucker and Kyle!
- jd250

You continually value a small sample over a large sample. You still haven't learned that.

they way they have played why not? they both have issues they need to address

how long do they get to continue to say the season is still young and what not?
- hello it's me 2050

There is more season left than played. More than enough time for NJD and Carolina to climb 4 points in the standings, and the Flyers to drop. It's not like they are 10 points back. We are tied in points with Carolina, and 4 up on NJD. The season does not have to be young for them to make up 4 points. It can happen over the last 5 games of the season.

We've been here before jd. We know how it turns out. Again, there is a public record that is all the information needed. You told me I walked the plank with Fletcher. How did it turn out. Actually, many may not like me but they all take me seriously. They all hang on every post I make. The public record is all of the proof that I need.
- MJL

Haha buddy, you’re just the biggest loser on here that posts nonstop, of course people reply to you. We laugh at you, we don’t respect you.

15 was perfect for him. He was solid

Seeler was a boss all game long.
- Just5

Solid, no he wasn't. He is a player that the Flyers traded a 1st and 2nd round pick for and are paying him a 5M cap hit. The on ice results are a 40.91 CF%, xgf% 37.91 and HDCF% of 28.57%. That's below mediocre.

Haha buddy, you’re just the biggest loser on here that posts nonstop, of course people reply to you. We laugh at you, we don’t respect you.
- ClaudeFather

You're a repeat failure. You try but fail miserably. That's just the facts. I wish I had a dollar for every debate you and I have had and I've turned out right. I'll say the same thing I tell jd250. There is a public record. You can't do anything about that.

There is more season left than played. More than enough time for NJD and Carolina to climb 4 points in the standings, and the Flyers to drop. It's not like they are 10 points back. We are tied in points with Carolina, and 4 up on NJD. The season does not have to be young for them to make up 4 points. It can happen over the last 5 games of the season.
- TheFreak

I'm in agreement with you that when you look at all of the available data and look at this time, its reasonable to believe that the current level of play is not sustainable. However with the NHL point system, it makes it harder and harder to catch up as the season goes along. Historically, a team in the Flyers current position at this time of year has a strong chance of making the playoffs. The Flyers are in the playoff hunt. That can't be denied.

what was vancouver picked to place? Arizona?
- hello it's me 2050

An article from the sporting news predicted Arizona as 8th in the Central, and Vancouver 6th in the Pacific. The same articles predicts the Hurricanes win the cup...

https://www.sportingnews..../2873ae79e443a9d80e389f4e


I get it's opinion, but this is sort of what I consider to be pretty accurate in terms of what expectations were.

Jones, Briere and Torts have all stated recently they are not changing their plans because of the teams success. They will not be buyers, and I believe they will not be sellers unless they get an offer they cannot refuse. They will most likely keep this team in tact for the season. Instead of bashing them because of what Fletcher did, why don’t you give them the benefit of the doubt until they do something that deserves bashing?

Btw, did you see how Atkinson was greeted at the bench once the Flyers killed that penalty in the 3rd? This team is as tight knit right know as you can get!
- jd250

He stood up for his teammate, in what I thought was a clean hit. He put the Flyers down against the #1 team in the league, in the 3rd, with the best home record in the league. It could have turned out a disaster. Luckily, Hathaway scored, but it very easily could have gone the other way. I thought it was a dumb play in a somewhat close game in the third.

You're a repeat failure. You try but fail miserably. That's just the facts. I wish I had a dollar for every debate you and I have had and I've turned out right. I'll say the same thing I tell jd250. There is a public record. You can't do anything about that.
- MJL

You get backed into a corner and just call people juvenile, the book is out on you Cliff . Classic avoidance

You get backed into a corner and just call people juvenile, the book is out on you Cliff . Classic avoidance
- ClaudeFather

I rest my case. The above is a juvenile response. You can't debate honestly simply because the depth of your knowledge of the game is about as deep as a bottle cap. So you have to resort to name calling and throwing in a bud or buddy. Again, there is a public record. You can't do anything about that which is why you've taken the conversation in the current direction. It must really bother you that you can't do anything about it.

RR with a D low under 15 minutes. How did he look?
- hello it's me 2050

He looked better than Sanheim, who I thought had a rough game