Drysdale, Lundestrom and Henrique (retained)

Drysdale, Lundestrom and Henrique (retained)
- mr.sir

Doubt Drysdale is a player the Ducks would give up. A team in rebuild mode is not likely to be trading a young RHD that in under control for 6 years, 3 at a very reasonable cap hit.

Literally in response to a PM your dumbass doesn't start anything ever snowflake self sent me.

You can spin things however you want, you're one of the biggest jokes in the history of this forum and have zero credibility. Save the self victimization, doubtful it lands with anyone.
- joel878

Leafs have 14 players who might “walk for nothing” this summer. For each player, Tre has to assess what they can bring back versus the contribution they can make here while factoring the prospect and cost of resigning them.

And Willie for picks and prospects is the worst possible move. Again, I haven’t seen a credible Willie for Dman proposal that actually helps.
- Canada Cup

Running it back again and again and again is obviously the best possible move.

No, trade him because they’re going to lose him for nothing.

Willy has shown he’s willing to let things get messy. Tre isn’t going to let anyone bully him. He’s a businessman first, and he sees a huge asset thats only going to depreciate in value. Leafs will be fine without Willy, but they won’t be okay if they let him walk for nothing.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

What are you saying to any potential free agent that they may get traded before the end of the contract because the fan base is worried they won't get anything for you.... you won't live out your contract here, but please sign with us....

Letting 88 walk at the end of the year is fine... use the cap elsewhere if he doesn't sign.... the Leafs will be fine either way.

Running it back again and again and again is obviously the best possible move.
- mjones242

Ditto.

It would be exciting having some really good prospects coming up in the system. You need that to win. There hasn’t been any since Matthews really..

Own rental costs you $7M in cap space till the end of the year. Trading him gives you cap space immediately. Trading him now gives you either a good defenseman, or a first rounder and a prospect. You get tangible assets plus the cap space for the rest of this year and probably $11M of space next year, if you hadn't signed him. This year looks like it's going sideways. There just isn't enough quality defensive depth on this roster and not a lot to trade away to get some. A step back for one year and then go shopping on July 1st. Keep your first rounder and keep the tangible assets from a Willy trade.
- PrinceLH

So, give up on the playoff spot... trade Nylander for futures that may or may not turn into something, possibly overpay for a bottom 4 DMan because a top 2 DMan aren't readily available and most teams have draft picks to outbid us.... awesome story to tell a rabid fan base getting use to being a perennial playoff team every year again... and awesome selling point to any future free agent.... thank franking God you don't work in a front office Prince, you have absolutely no clue man, players aren't "assets", this isn't a fantasy league.

What are you saying to any potential free agent that they may get traded before the end of the contract because the fan base is worried they won't get anything for you.... you won't live out your contract here, but please sign with us....

Letting 88 walk at the end of the year is fine... use the cap elsewhere if he doesn't sign.... the Leafs will be fine either way.
- aries1976

Letting star players walk is terrible asset management.

Tre won’t do it. He either signs, or gets traded.

Hypothetical deal: Leafs sign Willy to a $10.5M deal for 8 years. Calgary signs Noah Hanifan for $7.5M for 8 years. The Leafs trade Nylander to Calgary for Hanifan and a 2nd rounder. Hanifan is 1 year younger than Nylander so it's basically a wash. So the trade gets you a defenseman in his prime, a top 4, plus a second rounder and saves you $3M on the Cap. Is this an equitable trade? Leafs give up goals, but get a defenseman that helps prevent more goals, plus a 2nd. Sounds like a fair trade for both teams. Leafs have $3M to move around for next year during free agency. Leafs can replace Willy with a free agent or a player like Fraser Minten steps in as a power forward on the wing next year. Maybe he's another Matthew Knies. Are the Leafs better off after this calculation?
- PrinceLH

Hypothetically, it's not bad.

Hanifin won't sign in Canada, so we won't be getting him, if he was..... not bad.

Letting star players walk is terrible asset management.

Tre won’t do it. He either signs, or gets traded.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

We disagree on this, and thats fine....

Personally I think it's bad business while holding onto a playoff spot, basically given up on the playoff spot because fans are worried a player will walk for nothing, because the Leafs won't win a Nylander trade in season....

If leafs let him walk, it's Trelivings job to make use of that cap in what's best for the team.... if he fails, the fanbase will make their opinions very heard.

I think he re-signs, so all chatter might not matter.

What are you saying to any potential free agent that they may get traded before the end of the contract because the fan base is worried they won't get anything for you.... you won't live out your contract here, but please sign with us....

Letting 88 walk at the end of the year is fine... use the cap elsewhere if he doesn't sign.... the Leafs will be fine either way.
- aries1976

Why on earth would you let 88 walk for nothing if the team isn’t making the playoffs? Just saying, there are a number of conditions that need to be met before you keep Willie…….and the big one is they need to have a chance to be competitive in the playoffs, not just make them! Makes no sense. Not everyone wants to play in Toronto, which is why you need to work all the angles for talent, and drafting and prospects are one way……..you don’t let Willie walk unless the team is a cup contender.

Hypothetically, it's not bad.

Hanifin won't sign in Canada, so we won't be getting him, if he was..... not bad.
- aries1976

Hanifin was considering resigning with Calgary in September. That was the rumour anyways. We’ll see I guess. These players say one thing, but you never know till it’s done.

Why on earth would you let 88 walk for nothing if the team isn’t making the playoffs? Just saying, there are a number of conditions that need to be met before you keep Willie…….and the big one is they need to have a chance to be competitive in the playoffs, not just make them! Makes no sense. Not everyone wants to play in Toronto, which is why you need to work all the angles for talent, and drafting and prospects are one way……..you don’t let Willie walk unless the team is a cup contender.
- Bullot

I mean, yeah.... if we out of playoff spot, sure..... trade him.

but if we are locked in or a legit favorite to earn a spot, you don't.
not every one can handle the fish bowl which is Toronto.
no big free agent will come here on a shorter deal because of the risk of getting traded somewhere else, unless they get a NTC/NMC, no one signs a contract with the intent of getting traded before the end of the deal, players have families and whom wants to move all the time? GM's and teams have reputations when it comes to players, sometimes you have to do what's best for the players, and not the fans that feel entitled. unless your happy with the Bertuzzi's, Domi's, and Klingberg's every offseason.

i'd only trade Nylander now, if we get a DMan with term, and that wont be offered for a pending FA that isnt showing interest in signing at all right now.

only an idiot would trade 88 for picks and prospects.

Hanifin was considering resigning with Calgary in September. That was the rumour anyways. We’ll see I guess. These players say one thing, but you never know till it’s done.
- Bullot

Eric Francis is a bit of a hack, but he does have some insider knowledge, he thinks Hanifin wants to go to Boston... its the Trouba thing all over again, Hanifin wants to play in the states, and he will, love to have him in Leafland, won't happen on his next contract.

Literally in response to a PM your dumbass doesn't start anything ever snowflake self sent me.

You can spin things however you want, you're one of the biggest jokes in the history of this forum and have zero credibility. Save the self victimization, doubtful it lands with anyone.
- joel878

Why on earth would you let 88 walk for nothing if the team isn’t making the playoffs? Just saying, there are a number of conditions that need to be met before you keep Willie…….and the big one is they need to have a chance to be competitive in the playoffs, not just make them! Makes no sense.

Not everyone wants to play in Toronto,


which is why you need to work all the angles for talent, and drafting and prospects are one way……..you don’t let Willie walk unless the team is a cup contender.
- Bullot

Since When?

Spatso's New Years Resolution

This is a vey good thread.

There is no doubt that Leaf fans are highly knowledgable and deeply passionate about their team.

I disrespect and dislike the hype and self promoting of the Toronto media. The fans are an entirely different story.

My Ottawa family is passionately Senator red. My Toronto family is passionately Leaf blue. I love them both. Over Christmas we come together (23 of us at the cottage) to watch the world juniors and cheer for Canada.

I could not help but wonder if it was not time for all of us to cheer for an Ontario team to win a Stanley Cup. Could I convince my Sens family to cheer for the Leafs? How about Leaf fans supporting the Sens? The best response I could get was the hope that the Leafs or Sens would make it all the way to SCF and lose.

I watched a little of the Seattle Outdoor Classic and I was offended by the programming. It was showbiz meets gambling with the hockey game merely being the sideshow on ice. I don't like where our game is going.

So, for this year, I have decided I will cheer for the Leafs to make it all the way to the SCF and lose.

🇨🇦 losing 2-0 🤨

Canada needs to start one-timing the puck.

The goalie always has time to get set.

And fire the pucks ffs. Be like Nylander, be selfish instead of always looking to make a play.

Can anybody guess who leads the Leafs in assists this year? Hint he is also 7th in the league in points.

Can anybody guess who leads the Leafs in assists this year? Hint he is also 7th in the league in points.
- jribout

greedy pencil neck female dog?🤔

Can anybody guess who leads the Leafs in assists this year? Hint he is also 7th in the league in points.
- jribout

Ooh this is an easy one for me....
Dont care.

:😜

Ooh this is an easy one for me....
Dont care.

:😜
- Fakepartofme

Pretty impressive for a selfish guy. Imagine if he was a team player and played with Matthews on a regular basis. Gretzky record would be withing reach

Can anybody guess who leads the Leafs in assists this year? Hint he is also 7th in the league in points.
- jribout

Bates Battaglia?

this thread is getting boring🤦🏿‍♂️