Add a few more sentences. Maybe then you'll actually have said something.

Let me know if you actually want to have a discussion.
- MJL

Nice response!

The Flyers have already embraced an attacking style this season, and for you to state Torts does not believe in an attacking style or can't coach an attacking style in disingenuous on your part. Now if you want to attack Torts for the wretched PP or for playing Deslauriers far too much when it was clear he is nothing but a liability, then I am right with you. But stop the nonsense that Torts can't embrace a more modern style of NHL play or that Torts cannot coach a modern day athlete, because he has and he can. I think Torts is getting the most out of the roster he has by allowing this team to transition the puck more quickly and play an attacking style. In the end however, the Flyers don't have a McDavid or Draisaitl to attack other teams with. They have maybe one or two players who can actually finish a play, and that has been their downfall this year.

Two other members of the triumvirate need to step in and say these are your players. Don't give him a choice.
- MJL

I agree, Briere is the GM, he controls the roster. He can waive or recall anyone he wants as long as he has the space to do it.

I would not be opposed to Tuomaala playing the year in LHV. Just was thinking about some Phantoms players that could come in and spell some tired or sick forwards right now.
- jd250

I have zero doubt Torts would def utilize him correctly. Samu shouldn't sniff the NHL this season. Last game of the year as a reward. Sure.

Stop with the sick nonsense as well. Sick, phantom injuries', and all the other bs excuses you spew.

I agree, Briere is the GM, he controls the roster. He can waive or recall anyone he wants as long as he has the space to do it.
- jd250

so you think.....

Yea, the win they need is the trade deadline, win that, pick well, reshape team and pray like hell Cutter and MM are high end.
- wcorvette

The only thing that matters is what the Flyers do at the draft table. What they need, top line center and top pair defensemen, are for the most part only acquired through the draft. Any trades for those types of players are too few and far between to even think of it as a possibility.

The team IMO isn’t that far away but what they need is extremely hard to get.

Cam needs to sit, it is not his he misses grade A chances, he is a net negative on any line, he is killing plays

No goal but MM making moves


https://x.com/thelibertyy...&t=VnNHm5D5HOmnkTtOJChGbg

I have zero doubt Torts would def utilize him correctly. Samu shouldn't sniff the NHL this season. Last game of the year as a reward. Sure.

Stop with the sick nonsense as well. Sick, phantom injuries', and all the other bs excuses you spew.
- hello it's me 2050

I am just repeating what has been stated several times by people around the Flyers, that the team is fighting the flu right now. Don't shoot the messenger.

They are currently in the last playoff spot by points percentage . I don’t think there is anything they can do to prevent falling out of it by the end of the month. The question is how far out will they be and it will be enough for Briere to sell.
- psuhockey

1000%

The missed call on first goal was a miss for sure

Nice response!

The Flyers have already embraced an attacking style this season, and for you to state Torts does not believe in an attacking style or can't coach an attacking style in disingenuous on your part. Now if you want to attack Torts for the wretched PP or for playing Deslauriers far too much when it was clear he is nothing but a liability, then I am right with you. But stop the nonsense that Torts can't embrace a more modern style of NHL play or that Torts cannot coach a modern day athlete, because he has and he can. I think Torts is getting the most out of the roster he has by allowing this team to transition the puck more quickly and play an attacking style. In the end however, the Flyers don't have a McDavid or Draisaitl to attack other teams with. They have maybe one or two players who can actually finish a play, and that has been their downfall this year.
- jd250

Your post is full of hyperbole and rhetoric. Absent of any detail or substance explaining why you think I'm wrong. It's just full of "how dare you say that about Tortorella"! Now I know that you don't have the knowledge of systems that I have. Referenced when you in the past tried to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about in regards to the Flyers playing a low zone collapse in the defensive zone when you tried to tell me that they aren't because they were pressuring the points. Showing no knowledge or understanding for how the system works. It is the same here on display

The Flyers play a conservative system for the NHL today. Emphasizing defensive positioning over offensive attack. Basic side breakout schemes and a 2-1 spread forecheck. Tortorella believes in forecheck pressure but he does not believe in an aggressive attacking offensive system. He is a defensive checking coach that really doesn't know how to coach offense. Neither do his assistants apparently. I know the difference between the two. You obviously don't.

Did you watch the Oilers play last night? There was a clear difference in systems and design. Integrated 5 man breakouts through multiple lanes creating speed. Did you notice their vertical regroup system? How they frequently pulled the puck back instead of giving up possession and dumping it in. The sophistication of their offensive attack patterns in the offensive zone. Of passing and skating away, creating open lanes and drawing coverage away and creating deception. Puck rotations and cycles. The Flyers don't have any of that in their game. I watch other teams play and how they breakout. With wheel breakouts, neutral zone post up regroups, all of which generate speed and attack. The Flyers coaching staff can't even properly coach and teach the sling shot breakout on the PP. How about a multi lane PP breakout that creates deception and passes off of defenders heels. If you don't know what that is, I'll explain it to you. The Flyers innovation is low percentage lob plays into the neutral zone that frequently give up possession.

You don't have to have elite players to play that way. You certainly can play it better if you do. Tortorella's system and style of play can make a lesser team more competitive but it is not lasting. It is not the way to win in today's NHL.

In final, it is the new year. I encourage you to have an open mind. About the details of the game. There is tons of information available on the internet

Your post is full of hyperbole and rhetoric. Absent of any detail or substance explaining why you think I'm wrong. It's just full of "how dare you say that about Tortorella"! Now I know that you don't have the knowledge of systems that I have. Referenced when you in the past tried to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about in regards to the Flyers playing a low zone collapse in the defensive zone when you tried to tell me that they aren't because they were pressuring the points. Showing no knowledge or understanding for how the system works. It is the same here on display

The Flyers play a conservative system for the NHL today. Emphasizing defensive positioning over offensive attack. Basic side breakout schemes and a 2-1 spread forecheck. Tortorella believes in forecheck pressure but he does not believe in an aggressive attacking offensive system. He is a defensive checking coach that really doesn't know how to coach offense. Neither do his assistants apparently. I know the difference between the two. You obviously don't.

Did you watch the Oilers play last night? There was a clear difference in systems and design. Integrated 5 man breakouts. Did you notice their vertical regroup system? How they frequently pulled the puck back instead of giving up possession and dumping it in. The sophistication of their offensive attack patterns in the offensive zone. Of passing and skating away, creating open lanes and drawing coverage away. Puck rotations and cycles. The Flyers don't have any of that in their game. I watch other teams play and how they breakout. With wheel breakouts, neutral zone post up regroups, all of which generate speed and attack. The Flyers coaching staff can't even properly coach and teach the sling shot breakout on the PP. The Flyers innovation is low percentage lob plays into the neutral zone that frequently give up possession.

You don't have to have elite players to play that way. You certainly can play it better if you do. Tortorella's system and style of play can make a lesser team more competitive but it is not lasting. It is not the way to win in today's NHL.

In final, it is the new year. I encourage you to have an open mind. About the details of the game. There is tons of information available on the internet
- MJL

you rule cliff. How the hell you are not employed by an nhl is mind boggling. Cant your dad help with that?

I doubt very much you do.

where most of your canned responses come from.

you rule cliff. How the hell you are not employed by an nhl is mind boggling. Cant your dad help with that?

I doubt very much you do.

where most of your canned responses come from.
- hello it's me 2050

control + V

Your post is full of hyperbole and rhetoric. Absent of any detail or substance explaining why you think I'm wrong. It's just full of "how dare you say that about Tortorella"! Now I know that you don't have the knowledge of systems that I have. Referenced when you in the past tried to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about in regards to the Flyers playing a low zone collapse in the defensive zone when you tried to tell me that they aren't because they were pressuring the points. Showing no knowledge or understanding for how the system works. It is the same here on display

The Flyers play a conservative system for the NHL today. Emphasizing defensive positioning over offensive attack. Basic side breakout schemes and a 2-1 spread forecheck. Tortorella believes in forecheck pressure but he does not believe in an aggressive attacking offensive system. He is a defensive checking coach that really doesn't know how to coach offense. Neither do his assistants apparently. I know the difference between the two. You obviously don't.

Did you watch the Oilers play last night? There was a clear difference in systems and design. Integrated 5 man breakouts through multiple lanes creating speed. Did you notice their vertical regroup system? How they frequently pulled the puck back instead of giving up possession and dumping it in. The sophistication of their offensive attack patterns in the offensive zone. Of passing and skating away, creating open lanes and drawing coverage away and creating deception. Puck rotations and cycles. The Flyers don't have any of that in their game. I watch other teams play and how they breakout. With wheel breakouts, neutral zone post up regroups, all of which generate speed and attack. The Flyers coaching staff can't even properly coach and teach the sling shot breakout on the PP. How about a multi lane PP breakout that creates deception and passes off of defenders heels. If you don't know what that is, I'll explain it to you. The Flyers innovation is low percentage lob plays into the neutral zone that frequently give up possession.

You don't have to have elite players to play that way. You certainly can play it better if you do. Tortorella's system and style of play can make a lesser team more competitive but it is not lasting. It is not the way to win in today's NHL.

In final, it is the new year. I encourage you to have an open mind. About the details of the game. There is tons of information available on the internet
- MJL

Let us see after the grueling upcoming schedule.📅 I guess it will be many short uninspired pressers.
Like it was after the Flames and Oiler game.

Shocker

Apparently if Michkov stays healthy he'll break Kaprizov's U20 KHL scoring record at his current pace.... and the kid just turned 19 under a month ago.






Also, I don't know who Khabarov is but I hope they sent him to the hospital to get those ankles fixed:
https://twitter.com/TheLi...tatus/1742580902616568203

Apparently if Michkov stays healthy he'll break Kaprizov's U20 KHL scoring record at his current pace.... and the kid just turned 19 under a month ago.






Also, I don't know who Khabarov is but I hope they sent him to the hospital to get those ankles fixed:
https://twitter.com/TheLi...tatus/1742580902616568203


- Tomahawk

Pretty embarrassing there for the defenseman but really, that wasn't that great of a move. Pretty poor skating technique by the defenseman there. I don't like the between the legs shot. No chance to score on that with the goaltender down covering the shot side. The deke to the backhand across the net and he probably scores there.

Your post is full of hyperbole and rhetoric. Absent of any detail or substance explaining why you think I'm wrong. It's just full of "how dare you say that about Tortorella"! Now I know that you don't have the knowledge of systems that I have. Referenced when you in the past tried to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about in regards to the Flyers playing a low zone collapse in the defensive zone when you tried to tell me that they aren't because they were pressuring the points. Showing no knowledge or understanding for how the system works. It is the same here on display

The Flyers play a conservative system for the NHL today. Emphasizing defensive positioning over offensive attack. Basic side breakout schemes and a 2-1 spread forecheck. Tortorella believes in forecheck pressure but he does not believe in an aggressive attacking offensive system. He is a defensive checking coach that really doesn't know how to coach offense. Neither do his assistants apparently. I know the difference between the two. You obviously don't.

Did you watch the Oilers play last night? There was a clear difference in systems and design. Integrated 5 man breakouts through multiple lanes creating speed. Did you notice their vertical regroup system? How they frequently pulled the puck back instead of giving up possession and dumping it in. The sophistication of their offensive attack patterns in the offensive zone. Of passing and skating away, creating open lanes and drawing coverage away and creating deception. Puck rotations and cycles. The Flyers don't have any of that in their game. I watch other teams play and how they breakout. With wheel breakouts, neutral zone post up regroups, all of which generate speed and attack. The Flyers coaching staff can't even properly coach and teach the sling shot breakout on the PP. How about a multi lane PP breakout that creates deception and passes off of defenders heels. If you don't know what that is, I'll explain it to you. The Flyers innovation is low percentage lob plays into the neutral zone that frequently give up possession.

You don't have to have elite players to play that way. You certainly can play it better if you do. Tortorella's system and style of play can make a lesser team more competitive but it is not lasting. It is not the way to win in today's NHL.

In final, it is the new year. I encourage you to have an open mind. About the details of the game. There is tons of information available on the internet
- MJL

Gee, that last sentence isn't condescending is it?

Gee, that last sentence isn't condescending is it?

- Phillywhiteout

"There is tons of information out there on the internet" is condescending? Okay.

"There is tons of information out there on the internet" is condescending? Okay.

- MJL

Yes, in the context that you used it. Telling someone to go look up info on the internet. Yep...yeppers...yes...the verdict is in!

Pretty embarrassing there for the defenseman but really, that wasn't that great of a move. Pretty poor skating technique by the defenseman there. I don't like the between the legs shot. No chance to score on that with the goaltender down covering the shot side. The deke to the backhand across the net and he probably scores there.
- MJL

At that age he should be giving everything a try to push the boundaries of his imagination/skill. There's more than enough time for him to eventually settle down and play the %'s.

Yes, in the context that you used it. Telling someone to go look up info on the internet. Yep...yeppers...yes...the verdict is in!

- Phillywhiteout

I didn't tell him to look anything up. It was a simple comment that there is a lot of available information. You got it wrong, again!

Step to the plate. I made a lengthy and detailed post.

At that age he should be giving everything a try to push the boundaries of his imagination/skill. There's more than enough time for him to eventually settle down and play the %'s.
- Tomahawk

I hear you but a lot of that doesn't work in the NHL. He has plenty of time for his game to mature.

"There is tons of information out there on the internet" is condescending? Okay.

- MJL

kings waived Tobias Bjornfot, any interest i putting in a claim? former 1st rd pick who may need a change of scenery.

https://twitter.com/avapp...NvFjXcTjYDCMb5nQN5Wg&s=19

Nice breakdown of possible points needed to have a good shot to secure a playoff bid. With an abysmal PP, I am not hopeful they can get the job done. Considering the Flyers had 75 points last season, the odds to achieve a 20+ improvement is a tall task. I'm still optimistic Briere does the right thing and sells at the deadline.

https://twitter.com/avappleyard/status/1742638853037461974?t=UVNvFjXcTjYDCMb5nQN5Wg&s=19

Nice breakdown of possible points needed to have a good shot to secure a playoff bid. With an abysmal PP, I am not hopeful they can get the job done. Considering the Flyers had 75 points last season, the odds to achieve a 20+ improvement is a tall task. I'm still optimistic Briere does the right thing and sells at the deadline.
- Trox88

They potentially have to increase their level of play slightly to make it. Not going to happen.