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WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jan 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
Cutter scores the most points in the tournament and people female dog because he didn't score enough goals or wasn't flashy enough.

He is also having a very solid season at BC but I guess that isn't good enough as well.

He was never going to be an elite player, probably an average to above average player.

Stop with the complaints.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
Why?
- MJL

So you can see these assists
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
Cutter scores the most points in the tournament and people female dog because he didn't score enough goals or wasn't flashy enough.

He is also having a very solid season at BC but I guess that isn't good enough as well.

He was never going to be an elite player, probably an average to above average player.

Stop with the complaints.

- WhiskeyMan

There’s only one guy trying to parlay his tournament into his overall outlook
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
So you can see these assists
- ClaudeFather


Assists are assists. You're essentially saying the player that was voted the most outstanding player in the tournament was just a guy. Something doesn't add up.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 6 @ 11:56 AM ET
Assists are assists. You're essentially saying the player that was voted the most outstanding player in the tournament was just a guy. Something doesn't add up.
- MJL

Getting your shot blocked and it landing on a guys stick is a far cry from being labeled a playmaker
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
Getting your shot blocked and it landing on a guys stick is a far cry from being labeled a playmaker
- ClaudeFather


That's what happened for all 10 assists?
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jan 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
Congratulations to Cutter Gauthier and Team USA for the WJC win!!! It was a fairly tight game but the US just started taking over in the 2nd half. Would have loved to see that Brindley kid in a Flyers jersey. That kid has some competitive jam.

On to today's game. I think all the warts on this team are starting to show. It's not looking too good lately.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
First of all, I didn't watch a single game. I have a few questions for you though. He played what, 6 games? He had 10 assists in those games. How was he not a playmaker? He led the tournament in scoring and was a +9. He was voted the most outstanding player in the tournament. How was he just a guy in the tournament for most of his tournament. Something doesn't add up.
- MJL

maybe next year dont post on line all day and watch some hockey
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:24 PM ET
I don't want them to move the puck around on the PP. They can do that. I want them to score. To score, they need to shoot. I would tell Tippett to keep shooting. Eventually they're going to start going in.
- MJL

thats false cliff. you hope they do
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Cutter did fine and will be fine. If anything the tourney showed that he can be a well rounded player on a winning team.

Tippet has the tools. I’m not trading him, especially if there are rumblings of moving TK. I think he will become a dominant power forward.

Im excited to watch Frost today and moving forward. I think the biggest knock on him is his body language. I’d love to see a big game from him today.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:36 PM ET
Cutter did fine and will be fine. If anything the tourney showed that he can be a well rounded player on a winning team.

Tippet has the tools. I’m not trading him, especially if there are rumblings of moving TK. I think he will become a dominant power forward.

Im excited to watch Frost today and moving forward. I think the biggest knock on him is his body language. I’d love to see a big game from him today.

- anti-lame

don't see that at all, at least my definition of dominant/
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
maybe next year dont post on line all day and watch some hockey
- hello it's me 2050


I think he will. The guys on this team that seem to be scoring this year are TK, Farabee and Tippett. I think if you end up moving TK then Tippett will step up and fill some of that void.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
any lines for today posted anywhere?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
don't see that at all, at least my definition of dominant/
- hello it's me 2050


Eh, idk - once he hits his prime (see TK) we could have a pretty darn good player on our hands. Just my 2 cents
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
I think he will. The guys on this team that seem to be scoring this year are TK, Farabee and Tippett. I think if you end up moving TK then Tippett will step up and fill some of that void.
- anti-lame

not a given and TK is a much better player and more skilled than Tippet. I do not see Tippet being anything but a solid secondary player. Which is not a bad thing at all.

plus do you want to pay 6 million plus if those rumors are true for Owen?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
not a given and TK is a much better player and more skilled than Tippet. I do not see Tippet being anything but a solid secondary player. Which is not a bad thing at all.

plus do you want to pay 6 million plus if those rumors are true for Owen?

- hello it's me 2050


I don’t know if 6 million is guaranteed. If that’s where his camp starts the Flyer and Tippett could easily find a middle ground.

One thing I’m hoping Torts does (being coach and co-gm and all) is not only getting guys to buy into the system of play but also as a team to get players to take realistic deals so the front office has flexibility to make the team successful. If Tippett really wants term now (and I’m sure the flyers would want the same) he may not sniff 6 million yet. We will see.

TK is a better player right now. But I don’t think many were blown away by TK 4-5 years ago. He’s really broken out since then and went from middle six forward to a top line all-star. Part of that is the league changing around him, no reason we can’t hope and expect the same from Tip. I’ve seen more positive than negative from him since he’s been here.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jan 6 @ 12:48 PM ET
Watching the pregame show...with Bob Clarke. He looks so old, and his hair looks so weird..I get that he is old, but I haven't seen him in a while and was taken back by his appearance.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:49 PM ET
Why?
- MJL


While I agree that cutter is fine - this is a great example of completely ignoring the game in front of you and relying on stats from your laptop. You are not getting the full picture this way.

Why wouldn’t you want to see the highlights? You think you have all the answers from looking at the scoresheet. That’s why no one thinks you’ve ever laced a pair of skates up. If that doesn’t matter to you then you’re willfully ignoring evidence.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
I don’t know if 6 million is guaranteed. If that’s where his camp starts the Flyer and Tippett could easily find a middle ground.

One thing I’m hoping Torts does (being coach and co-gm and all) is not only getting guys to buy into the system of play but also as a team to get players to take realistic deals so the front office has flexibility to make the team successful. If Tippett really wants term now (and I’m sure the flyers would want the same) he may not sniff 6 million yet. We will see.

TK is a better player right now. But I don’t think many were blown away by TK 4-5 years ago. He’s really broken out since then and went from middle six forward to a top line all-star. Part of that is the league changing around him, no reason we can’t hope and expect the same from Tip. I’ve seen more positive than negative from him since he’s been here.

- anti-lame

thats not realistic. As a player I wouldn't.

TK at Tippets age was better imo.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
While I agree that cutter is fine - this is a great example of completely ignoring the game in front of you and relying on stats from your laptop. You are not getting the full picture this way.

Why wouldn’t you want to see the highlights? You think you have all the answers from looking at the scoresheet. That’s why no one thinks you love ever laced a pair of skates up. If that doesn’t matter to you then you’re willfully ignoring evidence.

- anti-lame

admits doesn't watch the games though will get on peeps who did and offer their opinion of said games. cliff rules.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jan 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
thats not realistic. As a player I wouldn't.

TK at Tippets age was better imo.

- hello it's me 2050


There are certainly deals to be had that benefit both sides. Good leadership could make this happen. Players who don’t care about the franchise they play for or don’t care about team success certainly wouldn’t take a team friendly deal. Hopefully we can foster a culture where everyone’s on board with winning together. Again, we’ll see.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 6 @ 1:01 PM ET
There are certainly deals to be had that benefit both sides. Good leadership could make this happen. Players who don’t care about the franchise they play for or don’t care about team success certainly wouldn’t take a team friendly deal. Hopefully we can foster a culture where everyone’s on board with winning together. Again, we’ll see.
- anti-lame

there really is no such thing as team friendly deals for players his age. This is their chance to cash and I do not blame them at all. It's fantasy world imo.

Yeah a letang and Crosby may take a deal as at end of career.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 6 @ 1:04 PM ET
not a given and TK is a much better player and more skilled than Tippet. I do not see Tippet being anything but a solid secondary player. Which is not a bad thing at all.

plus do you want to pay 6 million plus if those rumors are true for Owen?

- hello it's me 2050


He has not earned 6 $ mil a year….I’d like a bridge deal. Two year 9 mil….by that time we will know full well what he is or isn’t.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 6 @ 1:13 PM ET
First of all, I didn't watch a single game. I have a few questions for you though. He played what, 6 games? He had 10 assists in those games. How was he not a playmaker? He led the tournament in scoring and was a +9. He was voted the most outstanding player in the tournament. How was he just a guy in the tournament for most of his tournament. Something doesn't add up.
- MJL



I watched all of the WJC games and many of his BC games. The thing is, he really isn't a playmaker. He is a good passer, and accurate. But he isnt creative like you would describe a playmaker. Cutter is good at finding the open guy when he is getting pressured. He isn't threading needles, he is just real good at finding the open guy. Honestly I think his results at the WJC are an outlier. I would have been much less surprised if his line was reversed. 10 goals 2 assists.

That being said, I am happy to see how he stayed with his game and found other ways to produce when his shot was kind of all over the place. As I said he draws a lot of attention and was able to beat the pressure and find open guys.


His shot is what will separate him from the pack though. I hope he gets that back in a groove. He has to stop missing the net so much. But its hard and a quick release.


Just my opinion
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jan 6 @ 1:13 PM ET
That’s a great point, all these posters think he’s turned into a playmaker… he didn’t a magically evolve into a playmaker, I wish someone had a highlight tape of his tournament, think there would be some minds changed. Obviously when you get all these guys together you kind of take on a role for the team, but he didn’t find those soft spots like he did previously. I don’t think he should be play center. His best asset is his shot, and I think that’s best served at wing.
- ClaudeFather


He didn’t “turn in to a playmaker”. He broke out in this tournament refining his playmaking skills. Can’t always score goals and assists when one isn’t burying the puck is what good offensive players do. Yes in this international tournament with like 12 assists his playmaking ability clearly grew and were shown to be solid at this level and this bodes well for this young man’s development. Maybe he becomes a good center. Maybe he becomes a great winger. Who know? There’s no rule that says if he plays center as his primary position he still can’t play the bumper/circle on the PowerPlay or while rotating in the OZone. Everyone should just be juiced that one of the Flyers top prospects performed so well, won a gold medal and was recognized as a top offensive player.
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