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mackey331
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:43 AM ET
Flyers advisor Bob Murray gave his blessing.

The man who drafted the RHD injury prone Dman in Anaheim as their GM.

Cant wait till Tortarella retires after season and Berube is named coach

Same old Flyers organization baby!🤣🤣🤣

Coming up on 50 years without a Cup🤣🤣🤣
Theathletic is for libs
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.27.2020

Jan 9 @ 9:44 AM ET
or he could live in some poophole like Camden perhaps?? weak ass comment because even Kensington is being gentrified idiot.
- flyersfan_92


Gentrified with fentanyl
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
30 or so years ago there was a highly touted first round draft pick who refused to sign with the team that drafted him. That team traded him for another highly touted draftee and a bunch of other assets (and cash). The holdout had a hall of fame career but never won a Stanley Cup. The “other” guy - Peter Forsberg - won 2 Stanley Cups. Jus sayin.
- turdadactyl



best trade ever, just Forsberg alone was better than the other guy that didnt know to look up when Scott the Sailor Stevens was on the ice
mackey331
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
I was speculating concerning Torts, he is traced to some reasons a player wants out from a team.

At least Fox and Vesey returned calls and were clear in their intentions. If he was thrilled to be drafted by the Flyers then goes off on a 180 and wants nothing to do with them, it's really strange circumstances.

- Alexzanki


They know why when he told them in May he didn't want to be a part of organization any longer after world championships. The rest is team spin.

My guess they refused to sign him and put him on the roster after last college season because the Flyers wanted to continue the Center experiment at BC and Gauthier didn't want that path.

Funny how Briere kept saying in presser that he is a LW, when all we heard for 2 years was the Flyers believe he is a center.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:48 AM ET
Philly fan in full delusion mode.

Drysdale's ceiling is Sam Girard.

Drysdale will never make an impact in the second round or beyond of the playoffs for his team, like Girard.

Verbeek wins in a landslide.

- HappyBirdSeeds



meh, unless Gauthier turn into another Dubois, he off to a great start

i dont get trying to determine who won this today, it will take a few years to know !
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Jan 9 @ 10:16 AM ET
But it sure as hell is gonna be fun to watch the Penwhines suck for the next decade unless Buttman bails them out again. Or perhaps they can really move to KC this time? bunch of frontrunning loser fans.
- Phillywhiteout


100%. Has anyone checked out the Pens blog on this site ? Their fans are brutal. If anyone can't play with Sid, he is lambasted and they jump and down insisting he be sent packing. They have criticized their head coach, Mike Sullivan when they lose. They go on and on about how inept he is, all of a sudden he is senile when they start losing. Or, if any player makes mistakes in games, or their number aren't quite there, they want them gone. GM doesn't make moves fast enough ? Get rid of him. How is this treating people well ? Respectful ? Yes, it leads to more successful outcomes, but they are just as guilty, if not more, than any other team flipping personnel. And they do it quickly and frequently. They are frontrunners.
Turnitaround
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 9 @ 10:23 AM ET
Tough to say who won this trade as it’s soo early and only one of the 3 pieces involved can be considered “known”.

For now I think Flyers have the edge. RHD that can skate well and move the puck are a premium commodity and they got a 2nd round pick in addition. It wasn’t a situation where they were having doubts about the prospects ability to make it to the NHL. It was more that, no matter what, this guy will not suit up for the team. They came away very good from a bad situation. Not exactly the same, but sort of like when Tkatchuk made it clear that he did not want to stay in Calgary. Best outcome was to trade him and get something back; worst outcome would have been to stay put and let him walk away for free.

For the Ducks this could turn out well. But the fact that this kid is still a prospect and untested at the NHL level and still unsigned. So for now it’s hard to pick the Ducks as a winner for this trade.
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Jan 9 @ 10:26 AM ET
They know why when he told them in May he didn't want to be a part of organization any longer after world championships. The rest is team spin.

My guess they refused to sign him and put him on the roster after last college season because the Flyers wanted to continue the Center experiment at BC and Gauthier didn't want that path.

Funny how Briere kept saying in presser that he is a LW, when all we heard for 2 years was the Flyers believe he is a center.

- mackey331


This may all be true. But I ask anybody here who is in the shoes of any team manager/head coach, would you want a prospect dictating to you conditions for playing ? Dictating position, when to be on the roster ? I have coached championship teams and I can tell you it is difficult to manage when you cannot get cooperation from players to help you execute a vision. What's the point of being a manager or coach then if players are going to manage up ? It is looking like Gauthier didn't want the work that comes with being a center. Just like Hayes. He should have said Hayes was his idol not Crosby. Can't believe I'm going to say it - Crosby works on the ice. A lot of it is about effort and drive.
And that is the difference between Juniors and pro hockey. Can get away with just having talent in Juniors, but in the NHL, you have to work for it - there are just too many good players.

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 10:26 AM ET
meh, unless Gauthier turn into another Dubois, he off to a great start

i dont get trying to determine who won this today, it will take a few years to know !

- Xizord


Social Media Era...must know everything NOW!

Obviously short term Flyers win because they get a young RHD that can play now, long term will take awhile until that is decided. Do the Ducks get Mathews lite or JvR heavy? Players get injured all the time, but if Drysdale gets back on track without consistently missing time then it's exactly what the Flyers needed. Now they can bomb next year to draft Misa just in time for Michkov to get smuggled in.
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Jan 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
100%. Has anyone checked out the Pens blog on this site ? Their fans are brutal. If anyone can't play with Sid, he is lambasted and they jump and down insisting he be sent packing. They have criticized their head coach, Mike Sullivan when they lose. They go on and on about how inept he is, all of a sudden he is senile when they start losing. Or, if any player makes mistakes in games, or their numbers aren't quite there, they want them gone. GM doesn't make moves fast enough ? Get rid of him. How is this treating people well ? Respectful ? Yes, it leads to more successful outcomes, but they are just as guilty, if not more, than any other team flipping personnel. And they do it quickly and frequently. They are frontrunners.
- BluehorseShoe64

Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:54 PM ET
This may all be true. But I ask anybody here who is in the shoes of any team manager/head coach, would you want a prospect dictating to you conditions for playing ? Dictating position, when to be on the roster ? I have coached championship teams and I can tell you it is difficult to manage when you cannot get cooperation from players to help you execute a vision. What's the point of being a manager or coach then if players are going to manage up ? It is looking like Gauthier didn't want the work that comes with being a center. Just like Hayes. He should have said Hayes was his idol not Crosby. Can't believe I'm going to say it - Crosby works on the ice. A lot of it is about effort and drive.
And that is the difference between Juniors and pro hockey. Can get away with just having talent in Juniors, but in the NHL, you have to work for it - there are just too many good players.

- BluehorseShoe64


And I just put a Wyle E on Gauthier, so he’ll be a bust! I don’t do it often, only three other times, and they all worked. Gauthier just got one. Dude is doomed now!
26912 PP1
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 10.05.2023

Jan 9 @ 12:57 PM ET
They know why when he told them in May he didn't want to be a part of organization any longer after world championships. The rest is team spin.

My guess they refused to sign him and put him on the roster after last college season because the Flyers wanted to continue the Center experiment at BC and Gauthier didn't want that path.

Funny how Briere kept saying in presser that he is a LW, when all we heard for 2 years was the Flyers believe he is a center.

- mackey331
What spin? There is nothing to spin here. The player told them in May he did not want to sign. That's his right. The player then refused rookie camp in the summer. That's his right. When Briere was asked why he was not at rookie camp he said, "I dont know." This was the truth since the player never provided an explanation. The Flyers did an outstanding job keeping this under wraps thus why you me and everyone else were surprised. The Flyers sold high after a decent WJC. Done deal. There was no spin before. There is no spin now and I would suspect there will not be spin in the future. Again, Briere did not blame rules for the player not attending rookie camp as he could have payed his own way which many in college players do to attend rookie camps or at least they have to partially pay their own way. Either way, we now know why he did not attend.

The real story for the rest of us is why? Was everyones - screw up - big brother Kevin Hayes involved? Did his dad get carjacked in Philly 30 years ago? The player kinda impacts his own character by not at least meeting with the Flyers. Telling them why.

Hey, what goes around comes around.. Michcov fell to the Flyers cause he did not want to play for some other teams and he ended up in their lap. He did not meet with teams... flyers benefited

Seems to me that Briere did a heck of job with a difficult situation and handled it like a seasoned vet gm.

I will say if anyone takes career advice from Kevin Hayes, they need to do some serious soul searching and self reflection. They need to maybe go in for some kinda shock treatment as Hayes is as lazy and stubborn as they come and more interested in locker room politics than actually playing the right way. Mark Messier or Bobby Clarke he is not.
26912 PP1
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 10.05.2023

Jan 9 @ 1:00 PM ET
Flyers advisor Bob Murray gave his blessing.

The man who drafted the RHD injury prone Dman in Anaheim as their GM.

Cant wait till Tortarella retires after season and Berube is named coach

Same old Flyers organization baby!🤣🤣🤣

Coming up on 50 years without a Cup🤣🤣🤣

- mackey331
berube won a cup so...


CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
Fanbase
- Levit8


If that's true, he might not make it as an NHLer. As a Flyers fan, I'm happy he moved on for another team. I'm worried about Drysdale's health, but if he can play up to his potential and stay healthy, Briere made a very good deal.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
Rumour ! Lol 😂 that’s a joke and its the NHL you don’t say no to that, play there prove yourself then move on after contract is up like any respectable man would
- Hockeyfan4life14


A respectable man doesn’t show up to play for a team he never agree to play for just because people say he should. He stands up for himself. Kids gotta pair.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
Gentrified with fentanyl
- Theathletic is for libs


Xylazine
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
A respectable man doesn’t show up to play for a team he never agree to play for just because people say he should. He stands up for himself. Kids gotta pair.
- ChrisMS


You would be wrong! He said he was excited to play for the Flyers, THEN he changed his mind. That may be his right, but a respectable man would give the courtesy of a meeting to explain his reasoning. The only balls he has, are the ones slapping his chin!
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
A respectable man doesn’t show up to play for a team he never agree to play for just because people say he should. He stands up for himself. Kids gotta pair.
- ChrisMS



Nope, thats for when you are an UFA, before that shut up and lace your workboot

(frank)ing entitled woke sissy
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 9 @ 2:12 PM ET
And I just put a Wyle E on Gauthier, so he’ll be a bust! I don’t do it often, only three other times, and they all worked. Gauthier just got one. Dude is doomed now!
- Hokeeguy9



wat
ThatDarnCat
Location: In the control group
Joined: 04.01.2010

Jan 9 @ 2:17 PM ET


wat

- eichiefs9



Maybe he means Wile E Coyote (the eternal screwup)

Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
Maybe he means Wile E Coyote (the eternal screwup)


- ThatDarnCat


The Wyle E, is when everything you planned goes to sh!t, just like Wyle E Coyote!
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jan 9 @ 7:08 PM ET
Getting sick of these spoiled fffn brats getting away with this sh!t !! Little punk should never play in the NHL ever !!!!
- Hockeyfan4life14



He did the Flyers a favor! If he told the team before the draft that he didn’t want to play here than so be it. If he didn’t like the Flyers plan to go back to college to get more experience and develop specific parts of his game than I’m thrilled to find that out sooner than later. Let him go to another organization that might be more willing to be bossed around by a 19-20 year old!
God bless them and I wish them both well! I’ll enjoy the continuation of the drama from afar.😀
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jan 10 @ 1:37 PM ET
nowhere close to this level

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=201658


nothing like 18 games out of 120

- homiedclown


Yeah, 18 months for when a player is 21 is a great sample size. Also, you're counting the offseason too? Talk about grasping here
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