Even if he doesn’t become a mythical #1, the Flyers could have locked down the right handed defense position for a long time with him, Bonk and to lesser extent Sotheran. Plus it allows them to trade Walker and still attempt to compete for a playoff spot.
- psuhockey

The trade is done so i'll focus on what we've got. No idea what his ceiling is but it looks to me like he's def a legit top 4 guy. That's great and TBH, finding core dmen like that is really difficult. Their d is looking a lot more promising after this trade. Should be interesting at the draft. We've got the two firsts, so now that we've bolstered the d, I'd look to try and get a centre and maybe a dman with the 2nd first. Best case scenario? Get another pick from flipping guys at the TDL and stockpile more picks. Lots of work yet to be done to get the team back to contention, but I did mention before not just trading for picks, but getting young promising players already in the NHL and that's just what we did yesterday. I certainly don't see this as all doom and gloom now but man was I shocked at that trade.. didn't' see that coming

Briere did an outstanding job here. His two big moves have been very good thus far. Not his fault the kid doesnt want to play here. He got a young right dman with loads of promise and decent pick for guy that was never going to play here. He also kept it silent and handled it w class yesterday. The kids camp needs to leak something here otherwise hes gonna come off as a primadonna until he starts playing games and shows otherwise. IF it was Kevin Hayes, I really dont want anyone who takes career advice from Kevin Hayes.
- 26912 PP1

For what it’s worth I never did or would buy the Kevin Hayes connection….I think DB did ok. JD was a fantastic prospect and I think his ceiling is very high. The only part I didn’t like was cheering for that (frank)ing loser Guathier last week in the WJR’s….if DB could of closed the deal before Xmas I wouldn’t have wasted time watching him.

At this point, I would be a little disappointed if they do not get a 1st rdr for Walker. The pick does not have to be this year. Walker and Tanev appear to be the 2 best impending UFA RHD available.

It's the NHL, not a professional setting in the corporate world that we might experience. There wasn't any understanding. An understanding would've been, we talked to Gauthier we agreed he is going to sign with us as soon as his NCAA season is finished. They didn't suddenly paint him as anything. They simply said he didn't want to play here and he wouldn't talk to us about it.

What was the reason for why Briere, Jones and Hilferty all spoke to the media? It's because they traded the player. They were all involved in this. In the agreement to move him and all were aware of why. Why wouldn't they all have the same message? It wasn't some coordinated conspiracy to disparage the kid. It was explaining to their fan base why they traded Gautheir.
- MJL

there is no way you buy that with the way stance you have taken against the flyers in the past. They know why 100% he didn't want to be here. Shocked you didn't blame clarke or Holmgren yet.

they spoke to the media to circle the wagons and put out their version. Which is smart.

You mean when he had 4 SHGs in 19-20 when the Flyers had the 6th best Net PK%?
- Feanor

is that what we are using now net pk? thats almost as bad as using winger shooting % to defend frost.. hayes killed penalties like an old man getting into a warm bath. then he complained to anyone who would listen when he was removed from the kill.

It's the NHL, not a professional setting in the corporate world that we might experience. There wasn't any understanding. An understanding would've been, we talked to Gauthier we agreed he is going to sign with us as soon as his NCAA season is finished. They didn't suddenly paint him as anything. They simply said he didn't want to play here and he wouldn't talk to us about it.

What was the reason for why Briere, Jones and Hilferty all spoke to the media? It's because they traded the player. They were all involved in this. In the agreement to move him and all were aware of why. Why wouldn't they all have the same message? It wasn't some coordinated conspiracy to disparage the kid. It was explaining to their fan base why they traded Gautheir.
- MJL

I think they understood that this move would be a shock to the fanbase, so they made a point to all talk about it and be as frank as possible. I was certainly surprised and really happy to hear more details so that I could understand why we'd trade a top prospect when we are supposed to be rebuilding.

there is no way you buy that with the way stance you have taken against the flyers in the past. They know why 100% he didn't want to be here. Shocked you didn't blame clarke or Holmgren yet.

they spoke to the media to circle the wagons and put out their version. Which is smart.
- hello it's me 2050

everyone speaks to the media after a big trade.

You are naive to think that what you point out here is coaching .. its not! The reason why the Penguins do what they do is because of the talent and chemistry between Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Guentzel.


- jd250

What you are is badly uninformed and also lacking common sense. If what you state is true, then only Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Guentzel would be playing that way. If you actually knew what you're looking at. You'd see the entire team playing that way within the design system. Not just the stars but the grinders and role players also. Now you can certainly make the argument that the stars on the team execute better and make more plays within the system but offense isn't just what Tortorella thinks it is. Just put in a 2-1 spread forecheck and tell the players to just get it done.

Drysdale should improve the powerplay. Hopefully drastically.
- mickel25

Tony Angelo was a very accomplished PP defenseman. He was brought in last year to improve the PP. He didn't. It's a lot to put on a 21 year old kid. I hope he does though.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...thier-flyers-in-drysdale/

everyone speaks to the media after a big trade.
- 26912 PP1

wasnt aware thnaks.

Wow most of the reactions I have seen is people crapping on Drysdale, he's 21 years old and people are already writing him off because he hasn't won a Norris yet.

Looking at his injury it's basically 2...a shoulder that took him out for the year, last year, and I believe a torn labrum that took him out 2 months. It's not like he's bouncing back and forth re-injuring himself. Is Stamkos injury prone because he broke his leg one year? Plus he started playing at 18 for a defenseman, York is 22 and just starting to find a groove.

Then you have Cutter, when did he become an established superstar? He's 19 and never played an NHL game. Granted his team just won gold and he had a decent tournament, but it's not like he tore it up like Bedard last year.

I am looking forward seeing Drysdale and what he can do in O&B before I start calling him a bust or a messiah.

Tony Angelo was a very accomplished PP defenseman. He was brought in last year to improve the PP. He didn't. It's a lot to put on a 21 year old kid. I hope he does though.
- MJL

This is not a contention year, so give him an extended shot and see how he makes out/develops. He certainly seems like he'd be a fit as a PP QB.

Wow most of the reactions I have seen is people crapping on Drysdale, he's 21 years old and people are already writing him off because he hasn't won a Norris yet.

Looking at his injury it's basically 2...a shoulder that took him out for the year, last year, and I believe a torn labrum that took him out 2 months. It's not like he's bouncing back and forth re-injuring himself. Is Stamkos injury prone because he broke his leg one year? Plus he started playing at 18 for a defenseman, York is 22 and just starting to find a groove.

Then you have Cutter, when did he become an established superstar? He's 19 and never played an NHL game. Granted his team just won gold and he had a decent tournament, but it's not like he tore it up like Bedard last year.

I am looking forward seeing Drysdale and what he can do in O&B before I start calling him a bust or a messiah.
- Glak18

Agreed. It seems like he's got all the tools to be a solid top 4 dman.

https://twitter.com/Fried...bS_7BHt7wxlfKbfhAbzA&s=19

Maybe don't mess with another man's money might have some validity with the Gauthier saga.

At this point, I would be a little disappointed if they do not get a 1st rdr for Walker. The pick does not have to be this year. Walker and Tanev appear to be the 2 best impending UFA RHD available.
- Trox88

Maybe Danny can talk to Tampa and see if they have any interest in Walker, seems like a common move for them to build depth....

Isaac Howard sounds pretty good for a swap...I mean he did just win gold.

I really don’t like Torts. However, if a player doesn’t sign his entry level contract because of a coach- he should go pound sand. I don’t want him on my team.
- coffee junkie

A coach that he has no first hand experience with lol. Cant make this up

Very interesting that the Flyers played one of their biggest rivals last night and nobody is talking about it.
- MJL

Nothing to talk about. You could see immediately after that PP goal who was going win. It just became background noise to me.

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1744792106650980367?t=xKbS_7BHt7wxlfKbfhAbzA&s=19

Maybe don't mess with another man's money might have some validity with the Gauthier saga.
- Trox88

reputable source tp boot.

is that what we are using now net pk? thats almost as bad as using winger shooting % to defend frost.. hayes killed penalties like an old man getting into a warm bath. then he complained to anyone who would listen when he was removed from the kill.
- 26912 PP1

He scored four shorthanded goals in 69 games. The rest of the team had four combined.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...hGoals&page=0&pageSize=50

Net PK% is a great way to measure a PK's effectiveness because it accounts for goals scored shorthanded. Flyers last five seasons:

19-20: 85.7 % (6th)

20-21: 73.7% (30th)

21-22: 78.3% (26th)

22-23: 79.24% (21st)

23-24: 93.9% (1st)

What if he was 6'3 200 and couldn't play? Since were dealing in hypotheticals apparently.

Yea or no No spew.
- MJL

No


See how that worked?

Tony Angelo was a very accomplished PP defenseman. He was brought in last year to improve the PP. He didn't. It's a lot to put on a 21 year old kid. I hope he does though.
- MJL

I am not looking for him to get them into the top 20 by the end of the year or anything. He is clearly more offensively gifted than any D-man we have. They can't get worse at this point.

Friedman reports the Flyers wouldn't sign Gauthier at the end of last season because they didn't want a bonus overage for 23-24.

And yet they were happy to retain 50% on Hayes and buy out Angelo just to appease Torts.

So you are saying that Gauthier was willing to meet the Flyers and he wanted to be here?

I think if the Flyers were lying Cutter's reps would have made a contradictory statement. The silence from the other side tells me the Flyers are speaking close to the truth. Maybe not 100% but I believe they are truthful about the overall story.
- mickel25

not what I am saying at all. it was pretty self explanatory what I said. Clearly he did want to be part of the flyers organization.

If they agent refused to communicate he will not have a very long client list going forward imo. That's flat out dumb and why I do not believe it at this time. All about context which we do not have as of yet a sonly heard 1 side.

Wow most of the reactions I have seen is people crapping on Drysdale, he's 21 years old and people are already writing him off because he hasn't won a Norris yet.

Looking at his injury it's basically 2...a shoulder that took him out for the year, last year, and I believe a torn labrum that took him out 2 months. It's not like he's bouncing back and forth re-injuring himself. Is Stamkos injury prone because he broke his leg one year? Plus he started playing at 18 for a defenseman, York is 22 and just starting to find a groove.

Then you have Cutter, when did he become an established superstar? He's 19 and never played an NHL game. Granted his team just won gold and he had a decent tournament, but it's not like he tore it up like Bedard last year.

I am looking forward seeing Drysdale and what he can do in O&B before I start calling him a bust or a messiah.
- Glak18

Most reactions I’ve seen have been overwhelmingly positive, not sure what you are looking at