Friedman reports the Flyers wouldn't sign Gauthier at the end of last season because they didn't want a bonus overage for 23-24.

And yet they were happy to retain 50% on Hayes and buy out Angelo just to appease Torts.
- Feanor

and overpay for GH and sign Staal.

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1744792106650980367?t=xKbS_7BHt7wxlfKbfhAbzA&s=19

Maybe don't mess with another man's money might have some validity with the Gauthier saga.
- Trox88

If that's true...

I'm sure people will point the finger at the Flyers, but that absolutely makes Cutter look even worse if that is the case. So Cutter wanted that shorter contract and the gimme money...he could of done exactly what Cooley did and sign in the summer or before the season, but instead his feelings got hurt? That's pretty entitled right there.

Most reactions I’ve seen have been overwhelmingly positive, not sure what you are looking at
- ClaudeFather

Lots of YT opinion videos and the Twit

Based upon the available information, this is my assessment:
CG probably headed off to BC under the assumption that he would turn pro after he was done with the college season.
Whether Flyer management, namely Fletcher, implicitly expressed this to CG or his agent is not known.
Come Spring 2023, and Fletcher is no longer GM. The Flyers indicate that they believe CG should stay in school for another year. It could be because the team realizes it is not going to compete for a couple years and would rather let him develop and push the entry contract off an additional year.
CG sees this as forfeiting a year of compensation and delaying getting to RFA/UFA by two years. Also, possibly, that the Flyers went back on their word.
No doubt, the center vs wing stuff and buddy Hayes' view of Torts and being traded are part of the puzzle, too. Although, they're probably smaller pieces.

If Drysdale can become a 1st pair guy, this could be a really good trade. Call me in three years.
- GeorgeBailey

I agree with all of this 100%. And I’ll also add he probably saw how torts treated frost and was just another log on the fire

If that's true...

I'm sure people will point the finger at the Flyers, but that absolutely makes Cutter look even worse if that is the case. So Cutter wanted that shorter contract and the gimme money...he could of done exactly what Cooley did and sign in the summer or before the season, but instead his feelings got hurt? That's pretty entitled right there.
- Glak18

If it's true (and it might be), is not up to the agent to be extremely clear with the organization that irreversible damage it would create if they did not offer him the ELC last year? I find it hard to believe Briere would risk alienating a top 5 pick who shows a lot of ability over 1 yr. This story just keeps getting weirder.

there is no way you buy that with the way stance you have taken against the flyers in the past. They know why 100% he didn't want to be here. Shocked you didn't blame clarke or Holmgren yet.

they spoke to the media to circle the wagons and put out their version. Which is smart.
- hello it's me 2050

Tortorella

there is no way you buy that with the way stance you have taken against the flyers in the past. They know why 100% he didn't want to be here. Shocked you didn't blame clarke or Holmgren yet.

they spoke to the media to circle the wagons and put out their version. Which is smart.
- hello it's me 2050

It was clearly coordinated that they would all speak last night, Briere in a presser, Hilferty on Snow the Goalie, Jones in the Flyers broadcast between periods, Torts post game. The Flyers clearly wanted to inform their fanbase and get their narrative of the situation out there and they did that quite effectively.

Look, this is a bad situation for a Flyers organization that has had quite a few bad things happen to them over the past several years. I think this leadership group handled it the best they could, first by getting what they could in a trade knowing they really didn't have much leverage and second in the way they communicated with the fanbase.

I agree with all of this 100%. And I’ll also add he probably saw how torts treated frost and was just another log on the fire
- Stayin alive

Squeaking in his buddy Hayes view of torts is total BS. Freidman alluding to it really just being about the coming out last year on the Marek show

If it's true (and it might be), is not up to the agent to be extremely clear with the organization that irreversible damage it would create if they did not offer him the ELC last year? I find it hard to believe Briere would risk alienating a top 5 pick who shows a lot of ability over 1 yr. This story just keeps getting weirder.
- Trox88

Agreed. Instead it sounds like he just ghosted them..

Tortorella
- LFS

This doesn't sound like a player that does not want to play for Tortorella

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hIlbUBhf6iA

Crazy that there was absolutely zero mention of this anywhere at the game.

It sucks to ostensibly have your hands forced but given that, the return is great. Cutters star is shining brighter with a lot of recency bias, but he’s still a prospect as well. Not that long ago that drysdale was considered one of those virtually untouchable prospects himself. What has he really done to dissolve all that to date? Other than drafting your own this is reply the one way to ever inject one of these types into the organization. Still, very intriguing trade in a sport that typically lacks them.

Squeaking in his buddy Hayes view of torts is total BS. Freidman alluding to it really just being about the coming out last year on the Marek show
- ClaudeFather

Everyone is just speculating at this point. Cutter's agent or someone from his camp just need to have a sit down and explain their side of the story.

No one outside of this fanbase is paying attention to Frost or his benching. He's not good enough to draw that type of attention.
- Flyerz74

You're dead wrong on that. Either that or you have reading comprehension challenges. You think that prospects of the team are NOT paying attention? You think these things don't have some influence over how they feel about the coach or team? What rock do you live under?

Bill, what was the reaction of Flyer fans when Lindros refused to go to Quebec and landed in their lap? I don’t see anything wrong with what Cutter did. He made a decision that was in his best interests. Maybe he saw some potential of getting Frosted. Maybe it works out for both teams. Management does what’s best for them. The player did the same.

At this point, I would be a little disappointed if they do not get a 1st rdr for Walker. The pick does not have to be this year. Walker and Tanev appear to be the 2 best impending UFA RHD available.
- Trox88

Walker is fading a bit on the stat sheet. His play still seems fine. 1st rounder probably is a long shot.

If that's true...

I'm sure people will point the finger at the Flyers, but that absolutely makes Cutter look even worse if that is the case. So Cutter wanted that shorter contract and the gimme money...he could of done exactly what Cooley did and sign in the summer or before the season, but instead his feelings got hurt? That's pretty entitled right there.
- Glak18

And that may well be, but if true, in all the 'aw shucks we wuz left out to dry and we just leveling with youse fans' vibes the Flyers put out in coordinated fashion yesterday, why wasn't this mentioned as a possible start of the disharmony?

Bill, what was the reaction of Flyer fans when Lindros refused to go to Quebec and landed in their lap? I don’t see anything wrong with what Cutter did. He made a decision that was in his best interests. Maybe he saw some potential of getting Frosted. Maybe it works out for both teams. Management does what’s best for them. The player did the same.
- Minnyhock

Are you okay with drafted players routinely coming out and saying they don't want to play for the team that drafted them and what that could lead to?

Bill, what was the reaction of Flyer fans when Lindros refused to go to Quebec and landed in their lap? I don’t see anything wrong with what Cutter did. He made a decision that was in his best interests. Maybe he saw some potential of getting Frosted. Maybe it works out for both teams. Management does what’s best for them. The player did the same.
- Minnyhock

To be fair, Lindros let it known before the draft Quebec should not draft him. Ironically, much like Michkov did this draft.

Gauthier has the right to go down this path if he chooses. There just seems to be a communication breakdown within a year after being drafted. Briere is stating publically he does not know why Gauthier went radio silence. It would make sense for Gauthier to clarify the reasons for his stance. Let's see if he does.

Bill, what was the reaction of Flyer fans when Lindros refused to go to Quebec and landed in their lap? I don’t see anything wrong with what Cutter did. He made a decision that was in his best interests. Maybe he saw some potential of getting Frosted. Maybe it works out for both teams. Management does what’s best for them. The player did the same.
- Minnyhock

In my recollection nobody was happy with what Lindros did. I didn’t like it, but as a Flyers fan I was pretty excited that he was coming here. In hindsight it might have worked out better for both if it never happened.

To be fair, Lindros let it known before the draft Quebec should not draft him. Ironically, much like Michkov did this draft.

Gauthier has the right to go down this path if he chooses. There just seems to be a communication breakdown within a year after being drafted. Briere is stating publically he does not know why Gauthier went radio silence. It would make sense for Gauthier to clarify the reasons for his stance. Let's see if he does.
- Trox88

Yeah Lindros never said I was born to be a Nordique and then refused to talk to the team.

So Drysdale is wearing #9. If paired with Sanheim who wears #6......

For what it’s worth I never did or would buy the Kevin Hayes connection….I think DB did ok. JD was a fantastic prospect and I think his ceiling is very high. The only part I didn’t like was cheering for that (frank)ing loser Guathier last week in the WJR’s….if DB could of closed the deal before Xmas I wouldn’t have wasted time watching him.
- landros 2

Any way we can that Swedish kid who snubbed him in the handshake line?

To be fair, Lindros let it known before the draft Quebec should not draft him. Ironically, much like Michkov did this draft.

Gauthier has the right to go down this path if he chooses. There just seems to be a communication breakdown within a year after being drafted. Briere is stating publically he does not know why Gauthier went radio silence. It would make sense for Gauthier to clarify the reasons for his stance. Let's see if he does.
- Trox88

Timing different same result. Cutter had an open mind; Lindros didn’t. If I’m Cutter, I stay silent. No use to add fuel.

So Drysdale is wearing #9. If paired with Sanheim who wears #6......
- WhiskeyMan

And Sanheim is on the left and Drysdale is on the right. It's kizmet

In my recollection nobody was happy with what Lindros did. I didn’t like it, but as a Flyers fan I was pretty excited that he was coming here. In hindsight it might have worked out better for both if it never happened.
- Dkos

Didn't Jagr tell the top 4 teams in the draft not to draft him because he wasn't coming to the NHL so he could play with Mario? Pitt drafted at 5.