Timing different same result. Cutter had an open mind; Lindros didn’t. If I’m Cutter, I stay silent. No use to add fuel.
- Minnyhock

So Gauthier is better off allowing the Flyers to frame the narrative. Interesting, cannot write that I agree.

Dunno if anybody posted his yet but:
https://twitter.com/RearA...tatus/1744719013215977596

It's from the Chiclets guy so take it for what it's worth.

This takes me back to the draft in 2023. Knowing what the Flyers knew going into the draft, I really wish they would have drafted Gabe Perreault at #22.

This takes me back to the draft in 2023. Knowing what the Flyers knew going into the draft, I really wish they would have drafted Gabe Perreault at #22.
- MBFlyerfan

Even if they hadn't taken Bonk I'm guessing they wouldn't have taken Perreault anyway.

Dunno if anybody posted his yet but:
https://twitter.com/RearA...tatus/1744719013215977596

It's from the Chiclets guy so take it for what it's worth.
- Tomahawk

that is quite interesting....

Dunno if anybody posted his yet but:
https://twitter.com/RearA...tatus/1744719013215977596

It's from the Chiclets guy so take it for what it's worth.
- Tomahawk

Highly doubt rookie GM came into play, or torts for that matter. Seems very clear it was he wanted to leave and Philly felt Other wise. The kid is 19, he’s not thinking well they have a rookie GM.

Dunno if anybody posted his yet but:
https://twitter.com/RearA...tatus/1744719013215977596

It's from the Chiclets guy so take it for what it's worth.
- Tomahawk

If true, then he is still waiting for his balls to drop.

Highly doubt rookie GM came into play, or torts for that matter. Seems very clear it was he wanted to leave and Philly felt Other wise. The kid is 19, he’s not thinking well they have a rookie GM.
- ClaudeFather

As we've been discussing that "rookie GM" was making decisions that he felt was holding him back.

Ironically Verbeek is also a first time GM haha

Dunno if anybody posted his yet but:
https://twitter.com/RearA...tatus/1744719013215977596

It's from the Chiclets guy so take it for what it's worth.
- Tomahawk

So he's traded to a team with a guy who's got one more year of GM experience than Briere and a first time NHL coach? Whole situation is weird.

If true, then he is still waiting for his balls to drop.
- WhiskeyMan

So he's traded to a team with a guy who's got one more year of GM experience than Briere and a first time NHL coach? Whole situation is weird.
- TobyFlenderson

Ikr, the whole thing is hilariously stupid. 😂

As we've been discussing that "rookie GM" was making decisions that he felt was holding him back.

Ironically Verbeek is also a first time GM haha
- Tomahawk

Rookie GM is not the reason though, more so the development route disagreement. Lol exactly, verbeek is too. DB clearly had a plan in place that was not like the typical flyers just send him in method. The kid disagreed, it is what it is now.

You're dead wrong on that. Either that or you have reading comprehension challenges. You think that prospects of the team are NOT paying attention? You think these things don't have some influence over how they feel about the coach or team? What rock do you live under?


- Letterkenney

I'm dead wrong? Their both opinions you goof. I think they are totally separate things going on. You could look at Tyson or Brink and sees how much of an opportunity they are given or Zemula. But I don't think he is looking at any of that. Especially not Frost.

Are you okay with drafted players routinely coming out and saying they don't want to play for the team that drafted them and what that could lead to?
- MJL

yes.

a college kid can play all 4 years then become a an UFA. He did the flyers a favor by telling them now.....

This takes me back to the draft in 2023. Knowing what the Flyers knew going into the draft, I really wish they would have drafted Gabe Perreault at #22.
- MBFlyerfan

brindly....

Tony Angelo was a very accomplished PP defenseman. He was brought in last year to improve the PP. He didn't. It's a lot to put on a 21 year old kid. I hope he does though.
- MJL

Tortorella was one of the decision makers in bringing in TDA. So when Torts says we'll let him play offense and teach him how to play defense, TDA is a cautionary tale. He had no issue tanking his value before refusing to even dress him and forcing the team to do whatever it took to not have him on the roster at any cost.

"I think he's done some great things for us here," Tortorella said. "It's just ... we want to try to help him and we feel he needs to get better defensively without taking away any of that great offensive ability he has.

"We know what Tony is. I'm a little bit - not disappointed - but the defensive liability is something we need to work at. I didn't think the amount of work that we need to do with him ... I didn't think that at the point in time that we got him. But it is what it is."

Ikr, the whole thing is hilariously stupid. 😂
- Tomahawk

I think there's definitely smoke to the rumors about him not wanting to go back to college for one more year. Maybe Fletcher promised he would sign him after last year and was canned? Idk if that would be the case because Briere was an asst GM then and theoretically would've been on board with whatever Fletcher intended to do with Gauthier.

Thing is, wouldn't Gauthier bang down the door to tell Briere he wanted to be signed and then signed similarly to when Cooley did rather than ghosting everyone? I feel like Briere did him a favor by not signing him. He got to go back and play with a loaded BC team, boost his numbers and then won gold at the WJC making his star shine brighter than ever.

What would you expect from an organization that drafts a kid in good faith, and that they have been touting as a big part of their future, only to have that draft pick refuse to sign with you and not offer you a reason why? You're damned right the Flyers have very visible rancor.

And what drama are you referring too? When has this happened several times a year, year after year? This is pure hyperbole.
- jd250

Hayes pulled something similar on the hawks… wouldnt sign after college.. gave no readon

This is a very complicated case. A lot of ins a lot of outs. A lot of what have you’s.

yes.

a college kid can play all 4 years then become a an UFA. He did the flyers a favor by telling them now.....
- hello it's me 2050

He didn’t tell them anything….he stopped taking there calls.

So Gauthier is better off allowing the Flyers to frame the narrative. Interesting, cannot write that I agree.
- Trox88

Reminds me of the Russell Wilson saga going on in the NFL. Yea his play isn't worth his contract but the difference between the narrative the Broncos put out in public vs what Russell Wilson and the NFLPA decided to not keep quiet about is huge.

Wilson is established whereas Gauthier is not but the wisdom of "keeping quiet" generally benefits the team and not the player.

1. You dont know that. That is what you have been told. If that was true, reach out via intermediaries. Often, people will reveal the real reason off the record. I mean, there is an underlying reason for CG not wanting to play here, right? There has to be something? He is not a psychotic guy, is he?

2. Work with the kid's agent. Say we are trading you and we want a spin thats best for both of us. No need whatsoever to add all this thing about going to Sweden and him not wanting to meet us. This makes them look like a desperate partner trying their ex to not go through with divorce or something. No need to have your demented coach make comments about not knowing your best prospect in this country, one who is making hockey headlines, one who is possibly going to dress for you this year, from a "hole in the wall". It makes you look like an idiot.

Just say Cutter thought his future was different than what we think is best for him. We wish him the best. We are very excited to have Drysdale.

If Cutter truly didn't want to say what the issue was, it is likely deeper than wing/center. Maybe he saw organizational dysfunction, so deep that he knew it couldn't be corrected. How would you feel about whether he was right in his assessment based on how this matter was handled?
- PT21

I haven’t been here in a long time. Good to see you’re still the second worst poster here with incredibly stupid takes.

Tortorella was one of the decision makers in bringing in TDA. So when Torts says we'll let him play offense and teach him how to play defense, TDA is a cautionary tale. He had no issue tanking his value before refusing to even dress him and forcing the team to do whatever it took to not have him on the roster at any cost.

"I think he's done some great things for us here," Tortorella said. "It's just ... we want to try to help him and we feel he needs to get better defensively without taking away any of that great offensive ability he has.

"We know what Tony is. I'm a little bit - not disappointed - but the defensive liability is something we need to work at. I didn't think the amount of work that we need to do with him ... I didn't think that at the point in time that we got him. But it is what it is."
- Flyers_01

No question which is why I don't give much heed to much of what Tortorella says. There is no way he is going to just let off the reigns of a player offensively. Especially a young player. If you play for Tortorella, there are non-negotiables. Such as playing on the right side of the puck and blocking shots. Top players, especially top defenseman are risk takers and aggressively attack. Tortorella can say anything he wants. Watch how the Flyers play. It's all off of their checking.

This is a very complicated case. A lot of ins a lot of outs. A lot of what have you’s.
- StepfordSam

The Cutter abides.

I haven’t been here in a long time. Good to see you’re still the second worst poster here with incredibly stupid takes.
- Flyers1218

Are these two statements correlated? I mean, if you were posting regularly, would I have slipped to 3rd worst?

Ha ha ha