OttawaB
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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To Cal: Robertson, Byram, Johansen (retainer), Samsonov, 3rd round pick via NYI
To Col: Lindholm, Cowen, Reeves
To Tor: Tanev (retained), Markstrom (Retained), Calum Ritchie - Turnitaround
Why doesn't Toronto just send over a bag pucks .... that would have better value then the players included in this list.
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knagra
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 12.16.2014
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To Jets: Lindholm
To Flames: Kupari, Heinola, 1st round pick |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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Why doesn't Toronto just send over a bag pucks .... that would have better value then the players included in this list. - OttawaB
He did include a 3rd round pick for the Flames. |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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To Jets: Lindholm
To Flames: Kupari, Heinola, 1st round pick - knagra
Not enough but still better than the Toronto 3way trade. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Not enough but still better than the Toronto 3way trade. - K-man25
That's more than enough for a rental. Good luck getting better value than that! |
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BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 06.12.2014
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Flames Get: Krug, Walker, Saad, McEachern, a 2029 1st and 2nd
Blues get: lindholm (after he agrees to a trade and resigns) |
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BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 06.12.2014
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I don’t get the hype around this guy. Besides the year Gaudreau and Tkachuk had 100+ point seasons he has been nothing great. Out of 10 seasons he managed to break 54 points in just three of them. Maybe he is an all around 200 foot center and reliable on the defensive end but his numbers alone don’t show what all the hype is about. And he is 29. Any team signing this guy is going to pay for what he did in Calgary and will see his decline. |
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13of39
Colorado Avalanche |
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Joined: 08.26.2018
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To Carolina: C Elias Lindholm (50% Retained)
G Jakob Markstrom ($1M/AAV Retained)
*No Extension Required as a Precursor to Deal
To CGY: G Frederick Andersen
C Jack Drury
C Ryan Suzuki
D Simon Forsmark (rights)
2024 1st Rd. Draft Pick
Carolina further protects themselves behind Aho & Necas while taking preventative measures against being a scorer short as they were last year when Svechnikov went down.
Calgary Uses Lindholm in part to free themselves of Markstrom’s deal while (if deal is done before TDL) being able to flip Freddie or Vladar for futures this year. |
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Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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To BOS (@50% retained) for Grzelcyk + 1st in 2024 (drops to a 2nd if he does not resign) + high-end prospect/good young roster player + additional 1st in 2025 if Lindholm resigns. - mventres
If you take a peak at CapFriendly you'll notice bruins don't have a '24 1st rounder.
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Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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Not enough but still better than the Toronto 3way trade. - K-man25
You really don't get much more for a pending UFA than a 1st + some parts
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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I don’t get the hype around this guy. Besides the year Gaudreau and Tkachuk had 100+ point seasons he has been nothing great. Out of 10 seasons he managed to break 54 points in just three of them. Maybe he is an all around 200 foot center and reliable on the defensive end but his numbers alone don’t show what all the hype is about. And he is 29. Any team signing this guy is going to pay for what he did in Calgary and will see his decline. - BluesDroogie
Agreed. He's not great defensively either. He's a capable 2C or low end 1C and exiting his prime with back to back unimpressive seasons. I expect he'll be awful value at anything over $8m in a few years. If Conroy re-signed him at $72m/8yrs. it would be another atrocious contract next to Huberdeau. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!! Joined: 07.17.2021
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Olofsson, Samuelsson and Krebs
And that’s it |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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Agreed. He's not great defensively either. He's a capable 2C or low end 1C and exiting his prime with back to back unimpressive seasons. I expect he'll be awful value at anything over $8m in a few years. If Conroy re-signed him at $72m/8yrs. it would be another atrocious contract next to Huberdeau. - jfkst1
Finished second in Selke voting a couple of years ago. He's known as 2 way centre...he's actually excellent defensively. |
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Finished second in Selke voting a couple of years ago. He's known as 2 way centre...he's actually excellent defensively. - tincup
The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html - jfkst1
Don't disagree that playing with JH and Tkachuk made him better but to say he's not effective without them is ridiculous. He may not be worth the $9million + he wants but he worth $7ish for sure and every team in the league would love to have him for that. He's one of the best 2-way centers in the league...even over the last two years |
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RichDman64
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: Raleigh, NC Joined: 06.19.2015
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To Carolina: C Elias Lindholm (50% Retained)
G Jakob Markstrom ($1M/AAV Retained)
*No Extension Required as a Precursor to Deal
To CGY: G Frederick Andersen
C Jack Drury
C Ryan Suzuki
D Simon Forsmark (rights)
2024 1st Rd. Draft Pick
Carolina further protects themselves behind Aho & Necas while taking preventative measures against being a scorer short as they were last year when Svechnikov went down.
Calgary Uses Lindholm in part to free themselves of Markstrom’s deal while (if deal is done before TDL) being able to flip Freddie or Vladar for futures this year. - 13of39
I would actually do this deal. Carolina's window isn't going to remain open forever and Markstrom is clearly someone who needs a change of scenery. |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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I would actually do this deal. Carolina's window isn't going to remain open forever and Markstrom is clearly someone who needs a change of scenery. - RichDman64
Rumour is Markstrom will not waive. Markstrom really pooped the bed when CGY met Edm in the second round a couple of years ago. Not sure he loves the high pressure of a cup run. |
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The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html - jfkst1
Calgary has this problem of trading players and watching them set career highs in points elsewhere.
And despite having a new coach - he's still using Sutter's system. It's been a struggle finding chemistry with CGY's wingers. Huberdeau and Sharagovich deserve some blame for their team worst +/-
Based on past trades and recent news:
Zegras + 2nd for Lindholm
-It gives Calgary a dynamic offensive player, a 2nd as Zegras is fairly established and trending well.
-Anaheim gets a veteran C who's the anti-thesis to Zegras defensively and mentors fellow Swede Carlsson how to play, as well as McTavish. Lindholm can also play RW if that works better.
-the question is if Zegras has a bad attitude that prevents him from fixing his defensive game, there's Patrik Laine vibes from the looks of it.
Mercer/Holtz are also in rumors |
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To Calgary Flames
Josh Norris, Jakob Chychrun
To Ottawa Senators
Elias Linholm (7 x 7.25M) Noah Hanifin (8 x 6.75M) - AlfieisKing
People make posts like this when they know nothing about hockey. |
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To Jets: Lindholm
To Flames: Kupari, Heinola, 1st round pick - knagra
As a Flames fan, I think the Jets should go hard after Tanev. That would be such a huge pickup for their style of game and help limit chances on Hellebuyck. |
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The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html - jfkst1
The whole team isn’t good this year, Gaudreau has been trash since he left.
But please, you seem to know more than every hockey executive in the league. 😂 |
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Calgary has this problem of trading players and watching them set career highs in points elsewhere.
And despite having a new coach - he's still using Sutter's system. It's been a struggle finding chemistry with CGY's wingers. Huberdeau and Sharagovich deserve some blame for their team worst +/-
Based on past trades and recent news:
Zegras + 2nd for Lindholm
-It gives Calgary a dynamic offensive player, a 2nd as Zegras is fairly established and trending well.
-Anaheim gets a veteran C who's the anti-thesis to Zegras defensively and mentors fellow Swede Carlsson how to play, as well as McTavish. Lindholm can also play RW if that works better.
-the question is if Zegras has a bad attitude that prevents him from fixing his defensive game, there's Patrik Laine vibes from the looks of it.
Mercer/Holtz are also in rumors - eastcanadAREaholes
Did you just mention +/- as a stat. 😂
Literally the most archaic stat in the game.
And no way the ducks make this move, makes zero sense for them.
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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As a Flames fan, I think the Jets should go hard after Tanev. That would be such a huge pickup for their style of game and help limit chances on Hellebuyck. - Cobain27
So the best defensive team in hockey should seek more defence… no. |
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