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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: You Are the GM: The Elias Lindholm Sweeps is ON. Who Wants him?
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OttawaB
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.02.2016

Jan 10 @ 6:53 PM ET
To Cal: Robertson, Byram, Johansen (retainer), Samsonov, 3rd round pick via NYI

To Col: Lindholm, Cowen, Reeves

To Tor: Tanev (retained), Markstrom (Retained), Calum Ritchie

- Turnitaround



Why doesn't Toronto just send over a bag pucks .... that would have better value then the players included in this list.
knagra
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.16.2014

Jan 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
To Jets: Lindholm

To Flames: Kupari, Heinola, 1st round pick
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 10 @ 8:43 PM ET
Why doesn't Toronto just send over a bag pucks .... that would have better value then the players included in this list.
- OttawaB

He did include a 3rd round pick for the Flames.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 10 @ 8:46 PM ET
To Jets: Lindholm

To Flames: Kupari, Heinola, 1st round pick

- knagra

Not enough but still better than the Toronto 3way trade.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:58 PM ET
Not enough but still better than the Toronto 3way trade.
- K-man25

That's more than enough for a rental. Good luck getting better value than that!
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM ET
Flames Get: Krug, Walker, Saad, McEachern, a 2029 1st and 2nd

Blues get: lindholm (after he agrees to a trade and resigns)
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM ET
I don’t get the hype around this guy. Besides the year Gaudreau and Tkachuk had 100+ point seasons he has been nothing great. Out of 10 seasons he managed to break 54 points in just three of them. Maybe he is an all around 200 foot center and reliable on the defensive end but his numbers alone don’t show what all the hype is about. And he is 29. Any team signing this guy is going to pay for what he did in Calgary and will see his decline.
13of39
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM ET
To Carolina: C Elias Lindholm (50% Retained)
G Jakob Markstrom ($1M/AAV Retained)
*No Extension Required as a Precursor to Deal

To CGY: G Frederick Andersen
C Jack Drury
C Ryan Suzuki
D Simon Forsmark (rights)
2024 1st Rd. Draft Pick

Carolina further protects themselves behind Aho & Necas while taking preventative measures against being a scorer short as they were last year when Svechnikov went down.

Calgary Uses Lindholm in part to free themselves of Markstrom’s deal while (if deal is done before TDL) being able to flip Freddie or Vladar for futures this year.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 10 @ 11:44 PM ET
To BOS (@50% retained) for Grzelcyk + 1st in 2024 (drops to a 2nd if he does not resign) + high-end prospect/good young roster player + additional 1st in 2025 if Lindholm resigns.
- mventres


If you take a peak at CapFriendly you'll notice bruins don't have a '24 1st rounder.


Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 10 @ 11:47 PM ET
Not enough but still better than the Toronto 3way trade.
- K-man25


You really don't get much more for a pending UFA than a 1st + some parts

jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 11 @ 12:09 AM ET
I don’t get the hype around this guy. Besides the year Gaudreau and Tkachuk had 100+ point seasons he has been nothing great. Out of 10 seasons he managed to break 54 points in just three of them. Maybe he is an all around 200 foot center and reliable on the defensive end but his numbers alone don’t show what all the hype is about. And he is 29. Any team signing this guy is going to pay for what he did in Calgary and will see his decline.
- BluesDroogie


Agreed. He's not great defensively either. He's a capable 2C or low end 1C and exiting his prime with back to back unimpressive seasons. I expect he'll be awful value at anything over $8m in a few years. If Conroy re-signed him at $72m/8yrs. it would be another atrocious contract next to Huberdeau.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 11 @ 12:56 AM ET
Kuzmenko & 2025 2nd
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Jan 11 @ 1:08 AM ET
Olofsson, Samuelsson and Krebs

And that’s it
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 1:20 AM ET
Agreed. He's not great defensively either. He's a capable 2C or low end 1C and exiting his prime with back to back unimpressive seasons. I expect he'll be awful value at anything over $8m in a few years. If Conroy re-signed him at $72m/8yrs. it would be another atrocious contract next to Huberdeau.
- jfkst1


Finished second in Selke voting a couple of years ago. He's known as 2 way centre...he's actually excellent defensively.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:30 AM ET
Finished second in Selke voting a couple of years ago. He's known as 2 way centre...he's actually excellent defensively.
- tincup


The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 9:21 AM ET
The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html

- jfkst1


Don't disagree that playing with JH and Tkachuk made him better but to say he's not effective without them is ridiculous. He may not be worth the $9million + he wants but he worth $7ish for sure and every team in the league would love to have him for that. He's one of the best 2-way centers in the league...even over the last two years
RichDman64
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jan 11 @ 10:31 AM ET
To Carolina: C Elias Lindholm (50% Retained)
G Jakob Markstrom ($1M/AAV Retained)
*No Extension Required as a Precursor to Deal

To CGY: G Frederick Andersen
C Jack Drury
C Ryan Suzuki
D Simon Forsmark (rights)
2024 1st Rd. Draft Pick

Carolina further protects themselves behind Aho & Necas while taking preventative measures against being a scorer short as they were last year when Svechnikov went down.

Calgary Uses Lindholm in part to free themselves of Markstrom’s deal while (if deal is done before TDL) being able to flip Freddie or Vladar for futures this year.

- 13of39


I would actually do this deal. Carolina's window isn't going to remain open forever and Markstrom is clearly someone who needs a change of scenery.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 10:53 AM ET
I would actually do this deal. Carolina's window isn't going to remain open forever and Markstrom is clearly someone who needs a change of scenery.
- RichDman64


Rumour is Markstrom will not waive. Markstrom really pooped the bed when CGY met Edm in the second round a couple of years ago. Not sure he loves the high pressure of a cup run.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Jan 11 @ 12:09 PM ET
The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html

- jfkst1


Calgary has this problem of trading players and watching them set career highs in points elsewhere.

And despite having a new coach - he's still using Sutter's system. It's been a struggle finding chemistry with CGY's wingers. Huberdeau and Sharagovich deserve some blame for their team worst +/-

Based on past trades and recent news:

Zegras + 2nd for Lindholm

-It gives Calgary a dynamic offensive player, a 2nd as Zegras is fairly established and trending well.
-Anaheim gets a veteran C who's the anti-thesis to Zegras defensively and mentors fellow Swede Carlsson how to play, as well as McTavish. Lindholm can also play RW if that works better.
-the question is if Zegras has a bad attitude that prevents him from fixing his defensive game, there's Patrik Laine vibes from the looks of it.

Mercer/Holtz are also in rumors
Cobain27
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
To Calgary Flames

Josh Norris, Jakob Chychrun

To Ottawa Senators

Elias Linholm (7 x 7.25M) Noah Hanifin (8 x 6.75M)

- AlfieisKing



People make posts like this when they know nothing about hockey.
Cobain27
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
To Jets: Lindholm

To Flames: Kupari, Heinola, 1st round pick

- knagra

As a Flames fan, I think the Jets should go hard after Tanev. That would be such a huge pickup for their style of game and help limit chances on Hellebuyck.
Cobain27
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 13 @ 9:41 AM ET
The year he almost exclusively played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. His overall game has declined since then, especially defensively. Wasn't good defensively last season and he's been downright poor defensively this year as he gets badly outplayed and outscored on. If he needs two of the best wingers in the league to be effective, then he certainly isn't worth a lot. And at his age, very possible this decline is his standard going forward.
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/l/lindhel01.html

- jfkst1



The whole team isn’t good this year, Gaudreau has been trash since he left.
But please, you seem to know more than every hockey executive in the league. 😂
Cobain27
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 13 @ 9:49 AM ET
Calgary has this problem of trading players and watching them set career highs in points elsewhere.

And despite having a new coach - he's still using Sutter's system. It's been a struggle finding chemistry with CGY's wingers. Huberdeau and Sharagovich deserve some blame for their team worst +/-

Based on past trades and recent news:

Zegras + 2nd for Lindholm

-It gives Calgary a dynamic offensive player, a 2nd as Zegras is fairly established and trending well.
-Anaheim gets a veteran C who's the anti-thesis to Zegras defensively and mentors fellow Swede Carlsson how to play, as well as McTavish. Lindholm can also play RW if that works better.
-the question is if Zegras has a bad attitude that prevents him from fixing his defensive game, there's Patrik Laine vibes from the looks of it.

Mercer/Holtz are also in rumors

- eastcanadAREaholes



Did you just mention +/- as a stat. 😂
Literally the most archaic stat in the game.
And no way the ducks make this move, makes zero sense for them.

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 16 @ 9:44 PM ET
As a Flames fan, I think the Jets should go hard after Tanev. That would be such a huge pickup for their style of game and help limit chances on Hellebuyck.
- Cobain27

So the best defensive team in hockey should seek more defence… no.
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