Not sure why I’m still surprised by how stupid, and lacking in common decency, people are? To go to a college game to harass a kid because you’re disappointed he’s not going to play for the team you like? 🙄
- Dkos

yeah, a bit over the top...

Seems extreme
- kennygarcon

I'm thinking that was sarcasm 🤔

I thought it should have been a penalty.
- TheFreak

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No.
- bmeltzer

Haha... short and sweet... 'nuff said.

Bill, while I have you on the line, I'd like to throw this out there... putting aside the Flyers PP currently looking better, and Drysdale/Zamula emergence on it... I have an honest question; I do understand that the way of the game of hockey is to normally go with 4F/1D on the powerplay, except in rare circumstances, such as late game holding of lead... I have been wondering why in cases of ineffective PPs, and decent 5x5 play, why not merely go with the usual lines, with tweaking for better offensive talent... especiallyon the backend?... In the Habs game, where the Frost scored his PP goal, I noticed Sanheim out with Drysdale... Forgetting the 'it's always been done this way' reason, do you believe it has been considered for a regular basis... and if not, why not?... I'll hang up and listen to your answer.

I was at the Sixers game so I got home just to see OT. Even though he is on the Wild nothing brings me more joy than seeing Fluery lose. I can't stand his face. So 👊 to look at.

I heard some Flyer fans when to a BC game to this week to give Cutter a “see you later” preview but I can’t find the story. Has anyone else hear of this or did I just hear some fake news?
- Hosher12

No it's real. Security got involved.

Haha... short and sweet... 'nuff said.

Bill, while I have you on the line, I'd like to throw this out there... putting aside the Flyers PP currently looking better, and Drysdale/Zamula emergence on it... I have an honest question; I do understand that the way of the game of hockey is to normally go with 4F/1D on the powerplay, except in rare circumstances, such as late game holding of lead... I have been wondering why in cases of ineffective PPs, and decent 5x5 play, why not merely go with the usual lines, with tweaking for better offensive talent... especiallyon the backend?... In the Habs game, where the Frost scored his PP goal, I noticed Sanheim out with Drysdale... Forgetting the 'it's always been done this way' reason, do you believe it has been considered for a regular basis... and if not, why not?... I'll hang up and listen to your answer.
- ForeverFlyer16

Normally it's looking for a combination of playmakers and shooters as well as the right combination of LH/RH shots to make sure you have the proper stick in the right spots to see the net better.

Is Ersson as good or better than Hart right now?
- kennygarcon

I feel Hart is more talented of the two but it's a results driven business and you can make a case it's 1a and 1b right now.

I was at the Sixers game so I got home just to see OT. Even though he is on the Wild nothing brings me more joy than seeing Fluery lose. I can't stand his face. So 👊 to look at.
- Pelle31Forever

you only hate him because hes better than Roy

https://www.reddit.com/r/Flyers/comments/195byo5/flyers_nation_boston_college_security_temporarily/
- VilleLeinoShow

What a bunch of losers.

I'm thinking that was sarcasm 🤔
- ForeverFlyer16

well, at least you're 1 for 2

No it's real. Security got involved.
- Pelle31Forever

Jeeez. Leave the dumb kid alone while he’s still in college. Once he’s a pro, boo him, jeer him, hold signs, chant that he sucks, but this is overboard.

Normally it's looking for a combination of playmakers and shooters as well as the right combination of LH/RH shots to make sure you have the proper stick in the right spots to see the net better.
- MJL

I understand all that... and that Ideally better O players ong with the numbers advantage leads to better scoring chances... but in the case of a team that can't shoot straight year in, and year out... where the norm is just not working... why not just dumb things down a bit and go with the way they usually play to ease things and maybe go more by normal instincts... maybe take the pressure off, and possibly removing any monkeys on backs. Let's face it, short of adding talent (which they seem to have just done, BTW), what else could they do to spark a hopeless powerplay? I was wondering if Bill knew if it was even considered. It does seem too simple an idea... but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Hopefully with JD and Z, it will be a moot point going forward... but the others on the PP do have to pot the goals... so who knows.

well, at least you're 1 for 2
- kennygarcon

I honestly can't believe he's serious... but around these parts one never really knows, huh?

Haha... short and sweet... 'nuff said.

Bill, while I have you on the line, I'd like to throw this out there... putting aside the Flyers PP currently looking better, and Drysdale/Zamula emergence on it... I have an honest question; I do understand that the way of the game of hockey is to normally go with 4F/1D on the powerplay, except in rare circumstances, such as late game holding of lead... I have been wondering why in cases of ineffective PPs, and decent 5x5 play, why not merely go with the usual lines, with tweaking for better offensive talent... especiallyon the backend?... In the Habs game, where the Frost scored his PP goal, I noticed Sanheim out with Drysdale... Forgetting the 'it's always been done this way' reason, do you believe it has been considered for a regular basis... and if not, why not?... I'll hang up and listen to your answer.
- ForeverFlyer16

I have watched hockey for 25-30 years less than you. So this answer may not be correct.

But in my casual viewing experience, I have noticed that more emphasis seems to be placed on maintaining possession after an (unsuccessful) sog than say late 90s/early 2000s pp. Rather than look for a perfect shot, and passing back and forth and optimizing success/shot, players emphasize possession and consequently, get more shots in. And there are thus less clears, of course.


To optimize chances of puck possession, you put guys on the ice used to doing that around the boards, near the crease etc. These of course would be the forwards. If you kept a 2nd Dman, he would tend to be closer to the blue line (else there is no point in having the 2nd Dman), and as such would be positionally and in terms of skill less useful in that respect.

I could be totally wrong. I am just offering you an informal take. I have not looked up any stats and am not sure if they exist.

you only hate him because hes better than Roy
- THE BLACK HAND

Nice sarcasm. Fleury leads in save % but that’s it. Championships 4-3 Roy. Vezina 3-1 Roy. Smythe 3-0 Roy. All Star 6-1 Roy. I think Fleury was the starter in only one championship. The longer Fleury plays the worse the comparison gets regardless of how many wins he gets.

Nice sarcasm. Fleury leads in save % but that’s it. Championships 4-3 Roy. Vezina 3-1 Roy. Smythe 3-0 Roy. All Star 6-1 Roy. I think Fleury was the starter in only one championship. The longer Fleury plays the worse the comparison gets regardless of how many wins he gets.
- Minnyhock

its not a comparison. never was

I have watched hockey for 25-30 years less than you. So this answer may not be correct.

But in my casual viewing experience, I have noticed that more emphasis seems to be placed on maintaining possession after an (unsuccessful) sog than say late 90s/early 2000s pp. Rather than look for a perfect shot, and passing back and forth and optimizing success/shot, players emphasize possession and consequently, get more shots in. And there are thus less clears, of course.


To optimize chances of puck possession, you put guys on the ice used to doing that around the boards, near the crease etc. These of course would be the forwards. If you kept a 2nd Dman, he would tend to be closer to the blue line (else there is no point in having the 2nd Dman), and as such would be positionally and in terms of skill less useful in that respect.

I could be totally wrong. I am just offering you an informal take. I have not looked up any stats and am not sure if they exist.
- PT21

Thanks, I appreciate your take on it... and again in an ideal hockey world, it would optimize the scoring chances -- albeit lessening the defensive aspect... since d-men are more accustomed and better at defending, and playing skating backwards in a natural manner -- but I again emphasize that this is/was far from a ideal situation... a broken inefficient failure of a PP in a natural environment... When normal actions fail season after season, why not think out of the box... why not increase the odds of getting a goal by reducing the advantages that just isn't working? How many times have we heard people say in semi-jest; "can we decline the PP... (we have a better chance of scoring without it)? Again, hopefully this will be a moot discussion going forward... Has Torts & Co. Ever considered it on a regular basis? We know they have on occasions, such as in the Habs game... and he did play with two d-men on 3x3 on a regular basis. I'm just curious.

If he plays well tonight and we win vs the jets I’d put hart on waivers immediately in the hope he gets taken. We only need one solid nhl tender moving forward.
- Hextall271

Not directed at you but where is this need to trade anyone during a playoff push? We have 8 defenseman and calling Marc Staal one them is being kind. Hart hasn’t looked sharp since returning from illness but Errson has already left a game due to dehydration. Hart at 40% is better than whatever we call up. Plus goaltending and the defense has kept the lackluster offense in games. If we are in a top 3 seed in the division at the deadline, moving anyone doesn’t make sense to me. Injuries are always a factor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Flyers/comments/195byo5/flyers_nation_boston_college_security_temporarily/
- VilleLeinoShow

Thank you very much!!

I understand all that... and that Ideally better O players ong with the numbers advantage leads to better scoring chances... but in the case of a team that can't shoot straight year in, and year out... where the norm is just not working... why not just dumb things down a bit and go with the way they usually play to ease things and maybe go more by normal instincts... maybe take the pressure off, and possibly removing any monkeys on backs. Let's face it, short of adding talent (which they seem to have just done, BTW), what else could they do to spark a hopeless powerplay? I was wondering if Bill knew if it was even considered. It does seem too simple an idea... but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Hopefully with JD and Z, it will be a moot point going forward... but the others on the PP do have to pot the goals... so who knows.
- ForeverFlyer16

The power play, while struggling most of the season has been handled very strangely. I like the personnel on the first unit but not the make up. Couturier, Konency, Farabee and Tippett all make sense. Zamula has made sense until Drysdale got here. Speaking for myself personally I'd like to see Drysdale role with the very best on the team. Tippett and Farabee are set up with their sticks towards the boards with no one timer set up. The look looks as bad as the results. Now the second unit gets weirder. Frost and Drysdale are obviously deserving. The others are Sanheim, Foerster and Laughton. Laughton doesn’t belong ahead of Brink, Foerster hadn't scored in 2 decades up until yesterday. Sanheim isn't a terrible idea on the right half wall but I have yet to see an overly threatening shot from Sanheim in that spot. Why isn't there a net front presence? Risto has experience. Laughton I've seen do it last season, I don't like him out there unless he's being tried as a net front presence because he isn’t the most creative player anywhere else.

I have watched hockey for 25-30 years less than you. So this answer may not be correct.

But in my casual viewing experience, I have noticed that more emphasis seems to be placed on maintaining possession after an (unsuccessful) sog than say late 90s/early 2000s pp. Rather than look for a perfect shot, and passing back and forth and optimizing success/shot, players emphasize possession and consequently, get more shots in. And there are thus less clears, of course.


To optimize chances of puck possession, you put guys on the ice used to doing that around the boards, near the crease etc. These of course would be the forwards. If you kept a 2nd Dman, he would tend to be closer to the blue line (else there is no point in having the 2nd Dman), and as such would be positionally and in terms of skill less useful in that respect.

I could be totally wrong. I am just offering you an informal take. I have not looked up any stats and am not sure if they exist.
- PT21

If he was asking about 5 on 5, maybe that's applicable. Teams now mostly use 4 forwards, sometimes even 5 simply because they're normally more skilled offensive players. The Flyers issues on the PP are talent and coaching.

No it's real. Security got involved.
- Pelle31Forever

We’re the fans violent or doing damage to the stadium? I hope the were just rooting against him and not vandalizing the place.

At some point, I’m there already, it’s time to forget about him move on and be happy with the Drysdale and the pick. Until he plays a game in Philly then he gets it loud boos again! Old school Philly style, nothing physical but loud and in his face 6 feet apart as part of the CDC of course.
If you want to know why I think this way… I’d like to tell you but it’s a private matter!!

What a bunch of losers.
- furio16

If you talking about Gauthier and his advisers I agree!

The power play, while struggling most of the season has been handled very strangely. I like the personnel on the first unit but not the make up. Couturier, Konency, Farabee and Tippett all make sense. Zamula has made sense until Drysdale got here. Speaking for myself personally I'd like to see Drysdale role with the very best on the team. Tippett and Farabee are set up with their sticks towards the boards with no one timer set up. The look looks as bad as the results. Now the second unit gets weirder. Frost and Drysdale are obviously deserving. The others are Sanheim, Foerster and Laughton. Laughton doesn’t belong ahead of Brink, Foerster hadn't scored in 2 decades up until yesterday. Sanheim isn't a terrible idea on the right half wall but I have yet to see an overly threatening shot from Sanheim in that spot. Why isn't there a net front presence? Risto has experience. Laughton I've seen do it last season, I don't like him out there unless he's being tried as a net front presence because he isn’t the most creative player anywhere else.
- roenick97

Hathaway has never scored a PP but if you want net front why not try him on the 2nd PP. Laughton seems to be out there simply because talent is diluted and he is experienced at taking face offs.