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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
Holy poop! Torts is giving frost a shot at 1c with some real talent.
I know it's cold outside but not cold enough for hell to have frozen over.
I'm hoping frost has a big game tonight and takes advantage of this opportunity

- Bob Habib

You act like he’s been on the fourth line all year
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 15 @ 3:58 PM ET
No, overrated implies that some people place too much value on it. As if it is imperative that Konecny be given the C due to the way he is playing. In my opinion, you need more than one leader. I actually agree with what Tortorella in my opinion is trying to do here. He wants every player to take on a chunk of leadership. To take responsibility for leading by example. To build a team. I think your response supports my opinion. What's more important? Actually displaying the leadership qualities or displaying the letter on your sweater? I don't think Tortorella wants a hierarchy in the room. He wants a collective.
- MJL

Will wonders ever cease? Angels and ministers of grace, defend us!

I agree wholeheartedly with what this year's Jack Adam's award winner is trying to build with this team.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
Starting lines tonight (expect more line juggling, however):

74 Owen Tippett - 48 Morgan Frost - 11 Travis Konecny
86 Joel Farabee - 25 Ryan Poehling - 89 Cam Atkinson
71 Tyson Foerster - 21 Scott Laughton - 19 Garnet Hathaway
44 Nicolas Deslauriers - 27 Noah Cates - 10 Bobby Brink

8 Cam York - 6 Travis Sanheim
24 Nick Seeler - 26 Sean Walker
5 Egor Zamula- 55 Rasmus Ristolainen

79 Carter Hart

- bmeltzer[33 Samuel Ersson]

Frost is the 1C, Bill you must be euphoric right now
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
On the other hand, Frost needs to take advantage of this shot.
- wcorvette


Needs to score in the first 5 minutes of the game or that will be the end of that.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jan 15 @ 4:10 PM ET
You act like he’s been on the fourth line all year
- ClaudeFather

Has he played on the same line as TK this season? I honestly have no idea
But I am excited to see if frosty can feed those two some pucks tonight
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 15 @ 4:25 PM ET
Bruins did their job, 3-0 over Devils. Pittsburgh wins however. I wonder if the Devils are really good enough to make the playoffs? I am starting to think they are what they are.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 15 @ 4:44 PM ET
Another game without Coots. Any clue what the injury is or is it top secret?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 15 @ 4:52 PM ET
Another game without Coots. Any clue what the injury is or is it top secret?
- Dkos


It’s a body injury
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jan 15 @ 5:07 PM ET
Tippett and Frost have seen a lot of time together. Konency has had chemistry with Couturier most of the season and with this the team has had a lot of success. There’s never been a reason to pair Konency and Frost together until now.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 15 @ 5:13 PM ET
good opportunity to visit the sanheim/krug trade....
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
No, overrated implies that some people place too much value on it. As if it is imperative that Konecny be given the C due to the way he is playing. In my opinion, you need more than one leader. I actually agree with what Tortorella in my opinion is trying to do here. He wants every player to take on a chunk of leadership. To take responsibility for leading by example. To build a team. I think your response supports my opinion. What's more important? Actually displaying the leadership qualities or displaying the letter on your sweater? I don't think Tortorella wants a hierarchy in the room. He wants a collective.
- MJL


It doesn’t really. As I mentioned, there’s a reason in the military people wear rank and don’t just do leadership by committee. It’s important not only to recognize the leader ( it’s a great honour) , but to enhance that leaders authority to lead. It’s the only real thing I have as a critique on torts. Further, we see how important coots is as the leader of this team. To not have him with at least an a, and having laughts wear one is beyond ridiculous. Further, if the idea is to not have a hierarchy, why does laughts wear an a? Thats where this makes no sense. There’s your hierarchy. For your argument to hold water there would be no letters on anyone.

If it’s such a novel and effective way of building a team how come all other teams have captains and assistants even those rebuilding?
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jan 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
I have never seen a more dedicated poster in my life. Cliff is on here every day for 12-16 hours.

We need to recognize his dedication. I would like to name February 1 as the official MJL day going forward. Would like to get some feedback from others to see if this is something we want to recognize.

Maybe Bill can even dedicate a blog to him on that day.

- hello it's me 2050

Honestly I have to agree with this. This dude bleeds hockey buzz. I could go on a 10 year hiatus and know without a shadow of a doubt MJL is being an arrogant smug moron making 20-30 posts per day in Bills blogs.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
Honestly I have to agree with this. This dude bleeds hockey buzz. I could go on a 10 year hiatus and know without a shadow of a doubt MJL is being an arrogant smug moron making 20-30 posts per day in Bills blogs.
- Richieattack18

you are a little light
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Dylan...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
Carolina losing 4 1 to LA. If they can hold on and we win tonight then we’re in 2nd.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 5:36 PM ET
Bruins did their job, 3-0 over Devils. Pittsburgh wins however. I wonder if the Devils are really good enough to make the playoffs? I am starting to think they are what they are.
- jd250


Take two elite level players out of any lineup and see if they are what they are.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jan 15 @ 5:53 PM ET
I would also have promoted frost just to see how he makes out with better wingers. Heck I’d advocate for him getting an extended look there. I bet you he’d do well. Regardless, we will need to get some centre talent in here asap through draft and trade. I had stated that we should spend both firsts on dmen, but that has changed with JD in the fold. I could see DB supplementing the draft with a trade to bring in a young prospect who’s already at the nhl level.
- Hextall271

I truly believe Tortorella does not want him to succeed. Someone is going to get a Patrick Sharp level bonus in a trade. Then we will hear the standard rhetoric "he did not fit". Of course he did not, he has skill....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:01 PM ET
It doesn’t really. As I mentioned, there’s a reason in the military people wear rank and don’t just do leadership by committee. It’s important not only to recognize the leader ( it’s a great honour) , but to enhance that leaders authority to lead. It’s the only real thing I have as a critique on torts. Further, we see how important coots is as the leader of this team. To not have him with at least an a, and having laughts wear one is beyond ridiculous. Further, if the idea is to not have a hierarchy, why does laughts wear an a? Thats where this makes no sense. There’s your hierarchy. For your argument to hold water there would be no letters on anyone.

If it’s such a novel and effective way of building a team how come all other teams have captains and assistants even those rebuilding?

- Hextall271


First of all, hockey is not the military. Where a chain of command is critical to make sure plans and orders are followed so people don't die. There is a huge difference between leading on a hockey team and commanding subordinates in the military. We do see how important of a leader Couturier is. How is he managing that without the letter on his sweater? How are you able to recognize Couturier as a leader without a letter on his sweater? If you can, can the players or are they not able to without the letter? Seems as though its not necessary. Same with Konecny. They're both the clear evidence of my argument. To say that it doesn't hold water doesn't make much sense with that clear evidence. I suspect that he gave the A to Laughton simply due to the rules. That technically, only a player wearing an A or a C can meet with the referees on behalf of the team in disputes on calls.

Where did I say it's a novel and effective way of building a team? I didn't. All I said was that I agree with what I think is his reasoning. That he wants every player to lead by example and take on a piece of the pie. Whether that is more effective then the other way, not sure. I think overall, who wears the C or the A doesn't matter nearly as much as who is actually an effective leader.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jan 15 @ 6:05 PM ET
Love this blog!

Yesterday we all debated the value of Zegras & Cozens and whether they could be had or should be had. Today… C’s and A’s
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jan 15 @ 6:07 PM ET
Dear Morgan Frost,

This is your chance as a 1C

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 15 @ 6:50 PM ET
Take two elite level players out of any lineup and see if they are what they are.
- MJL

Timo Mier and Dougie Hamilton are elite? Though Hamilton had an elite season last year, I’ll give you that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 7:00 PM ET
Timo Mier and Dougie Hamilton are elite? Though Hamilton had an elite season last year, I’ll give you that.
- jd250


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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 15 @ 7:02 PM ET
Timo Mier and Dougie Hamilton are elite? Though Hamilton had an elite season last year, I’ll give you that.
- jd250

Meier has sucked for the devils since he got there
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM ET
Frost very noticeable tonight so far.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM ET
Frost very noticeable tonight so far.
- MBFlyerfan


We’ve carried the play the last while. Just couldn’t bury one.
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