Does he need to play with top line talent to play like he did last night? Do you think he would have done as well if he was on the second line?

Not being an ass to you like I normally am, seriously asking.
- WhiskeyMan

I think it's a combination of things. Frost himself needs to raise his game and produce more consistently. It's also been shown that he is a far more effective player when playing with good offensive players. Frost makes at least a few plays every game. He doesn't have much good fortune though. Last night he sets up Foerster for an open net and Foerster misses the net. He set up Konecny last night for a really good opportunity and Konecny completely whiffs the shot. When does that happen? I still have doubts that Frost could be a 2C on a cup contender but he can definitely be a 3C.

yes agree. It was one game. He continues to do that he should be the 2c when coots returns. He's gotten a couple points recently, but he needs to keep it up. Last year at this time he got comfortable and started producing at a better pace. time will tell if he can continue like this.
- Peter Richards

no issue leaving him at the #1 spot to see what happens. torts wont

Rather have played more games now than down the stretch after all star break when it is mostly division opponents
- ClaudeFather

I do think middle of the roads teams, ones that have to play a team game, play better when they play more, I am hoping the Flyers can handle their conference and the Metro. Seems all of us have been careful not to get to high on the Flyers, waiting for the shoe to drop, this far in, it is hard to not push for them and expect them to keep playing this way. We all rip on different players but truthfully they have all done well, the youth has taken a bigger piece of it and goal tending has been lights out.

I fell asleep at 2-2. That winning goal by Tippett was insane. Wild backhander. He's really upped his game of late. We also did this without out top C and D man.. wild.

This team continues to surprise me. Epic road trip. TBH, if they keep this up, they just might make the playoffs. Regardless, stay the course, don't acquire anyone new and trade if the right deal comes along at the TDL.
- Hextall271

They’re making the playoffs.

I think it's a combination of things. Frost himself needs to raise his game and produce more consistently. It's also been shown that he is a far more effective player when playing with good offensive players. Frost makes at least a few plays every game. He doesn't have much good fortune though. Last night he sets up Foerster for an open net and Foerseter misses the net. He set up Konecny last night for a really good opportunity and Konecny completely whiffs the shot. When does that happen? I still have doubts that Frost could be a 2C on a cup contender but he can definitely be a 3C.
- MJL

as is the case for most skilled players. this is nothing new or any great revelation.
please stop with doesn't have much good fortune. it is old and weak. how many players league wide can say the same stuff?

is frost good enough to elevate lesser talent?

Does he need to play with top line talent to play like he did last night? Do you think he would have done as well if he was on the second line?

Not being an ass to you like I normally am, seriously asking.
- WhiskeyMan

think the last 2 games have been a good test for Frost, give it to him, he is flying and creating. I especially like the Blues game, a team playing well but more like the Flyers , not elite talent. It shows Frost can standout vs similar teams, good teams, now he just needs to keep adding points and surprise us vs a better team or a huge rivalry. As much as he needs folks to score, he still has a lot to prove if he wants to be an impact player. The tools are there.

I think it's a combination of things. Frost himself needs to raise his game and produce more consistently. It's also been shown that he is a far more effective player when playing with good offensive players. Frost makes at least a few plays every game. He doesn't have much good fortune though. Last night he sets up Foerster for an open net and Foerseter misses the net. He set up Konecny last night for a really good opportunity and Konecny completely whiffs the shot. When does that happen? I still have doubts that Frost could be a 2C on a cup contender but he can definitely be a 3C.
- MJL

Thanks.

I think it's a combination of things. Frost himself needs to raise his game and produce more consistently. It's also been shown that he is a far more effective player when playing with good offensive players. Frost makes at least a few plays every game. He doesn't have much good fortune though. Last night he sets up Foerster for an open net and Foerseter misses the net. He set up Konecny last night for a really good opportunity and Konecny completely whiffs the shot. When does that happen? I still have doubts that Frost could be a 2C on a cup contender but he can definitely be a 3C.
- MJL

Konecny was really laboring near the end of the game. Looks like he’s dealing with something

as is the case for most skilled players. this is nothing new or any great revelation.
please stop with doesn't have much good fortune. it is old and weak. how many players league wide can say the same stuff?

is frost good enough to elevate lesser talent?
- hello it's me 2050

Forester and Brink did not elevate their games when they played on the top two lines.

Konecny was really laboring near the end of the game. Looks like he’s dealing with something
- Just5

He is reportedly very banged up.

Ever notice when the Flyers are winning games there is a certain element missing from this forum?
- jd250

Yep. First 3 game losing streak, Pavel will be back, trust me.

as is the case for most skilled players. this is nothing new or any great revelation.
please stop with doesn't have much good fortune. it is old and weak. how many players league wide can say the same stuff?

is frost good enough to elevate lesser talent?
- hello it's me 2050

Unknown since he hasn’t had enough time to play regularly. He did look like that player last night but we need some larger samples.

They’re making the playoffs.
- Just5

I think at this point I would be shocked if they didn't.

Unknown since he hasn’t had enough time to play regularly. He did look like that player last night but we need some larger samples.
- mikeyo27

We had a large sample last season. I know this will trigger some but the coaching staff just simply has to stop messing with him. He is showing signs of getting back to where he was last season and it's taking far longer than it should. However that doesn't change that the coach has placed major road blocks in his way two seasons in a row.

I think at this point I would be shocked if they didn't.
- MBFlyerfan

They're certainly in the hunt. The Metro is very tight.

Frost showed last night what he can do if placed in the right situations. He was all over the puck and made numerous strong plays. Offensively and defensively.
- MJL

I don't mean to pick on Frost. I think he made some nice plays and should have had a few legitimate assists versus the phantom one he did get. However, he also made some very poor decisions, especially in his own end (no look pass in his own zone right into the slot in the 2nd period is one example) and in the neutral zone that lead to turn overs. I think he still at times displays very poor puck management. But overall he did showcase his skills last night. This is one game where I think all the Flyers had their legs and really played fast.

I think at this point I would be shocked if they didn't.
- MBFlyerfan

It’s way too close in the standings to say that. If they’re able to go on a run vs conference and div opponents then that will likely do the trick. They’ll have games vs the bostons and rangers and Carolina’s that they’ll need to win to make it

I think it's a combination of things. Frost himself needs to raise his game and produce more consistently. It's also been shown that he is a far more effective player when playing with good offensive players. Frost makes at least a few plays every game. He doesn't have much good fortune though. Last night he sets up Foerster for an open net and Foerster misses the net. He set up Konecny last night for a really good opportunity and Konecny completely whiffs the shot. When does that happen? I still have doubts that Frost could be a 2C on a cup contender but he can definitely be a 3C.
- MJL

Well, well .... well .. my how the mighty have fallen. If you keep this up, you might eventually conclude Frost is only going to be a marginal NHL player

On a serious note, I agree with you, Frost is a 3C with maybe potential to spot at 2C. If he can get his faceoff % higher and shoot the puck more, I think that would help him. Last night only 2 shots in 18 minutes and 40% of faceoffs (6 of 15). Also he still has lapses in his puck management, wants to make these cute plays that will eventually come back on the team.

It’s way too close in the standings to say that. If they’re able to go on a run vs conference and div opponents then that will likely do the trick. They’ll have games vs the bostons and rangers and Carolina’s that they’ll need to win to make it
- Hextall271

At this point, if the Flyers can win most of the games against teams they should beat and .500 the rest of the way against the top teams, they will make the playoffs. Heck, they are only 2 points behind the Rangers right now, though the Rangers have 2 games in hand. Still, never would have thought this would be the case on January 16th! The key is the goal tending. If it stays at this level, they are a lock.

I don't mean to pick on Frost. I think he made some nice plays and should have had a few legitimate assists versus the phantom one he did get. However, he also made some very poor decisions, especially in his own end (no look pass in his own zone right into the slot in the 2nd period is one example) and in the neutral zone that lead to turn overs. I think he still at times displays very poor puck management. But overall he did showcase his skills last night. This is one game where I think all the Flyers had their legs and really played fast.
- jd250

I disagree. He is solid with the puck and makes good decisions. The facts support that and don't support your opinion. Good teams and good players use the middle of the ice on breakouts. That is what high skilled players do especially against NHL forechecks tailored to take away the boards.

I think at this point I would be shocked if they didn't.
- MBFlyerfan

I still think it’s 50/50

In: Boston, FL, Toronto, NYR, Carolina

Leaves 3 spots for: us, Pitts, NYI, NJ, the Caps, TB & Detroit

At least the stretch run will be interesting for a change.

Well, well .... well .. my how the mighty have fallen. If you keep this up, you might eventually conclude Frost is only going to be a marginal NHL player

On a serious note, I agree with you, Frost is a 3C with maybe potential to spot at 2C. If he can get his faceoff % higher and shoot the puck more, I think that would help him. Last night only 2 shots in 18 minutes and 40% of faceoffs (6 of 15). Also he still has lapses in his puck management, wants to make these cute plays that will eventually come back on the team.
- jd250

I guess you don't understand that a 3rd line scoring center is not a marginal NHL player. A quality team that hopes to contend for the Cup better have 3 scoring lines and for that, you need a 3C that can put up some points. Frost has been getting better and better on faceoffs. and this puck management issue, is a figment of your imagination.

Seems like RR and Zam are playing well together.

Forester and Brink did not elevate their games when they played on the top two lines.
- WhiskeyMan

being rookies I wont get in them as much. They are struggling to produce. Come playoff time, if it gets to that, it will be a huge issue. Scoring that is imo.

That's why will be interesting to see if they add, and who that may be. Probably another Grant or Thompson type!!!

Yep. First 3 game losing streak, Pavel will be back, trust me.
- MBFlyerfan

He did make an appearance when Gauthier was traded, it was priceless!