Unknown since he hasn’t had enough time to play regularly. He did look like that player last night but we need some larger samples.
- mikeyo27

who was he playing with last night that you consider a lessr talent?

They're certainly in the hunt. The Metro is very tight.
- MJL

it would bother you if they did make it, would it not?

I guess you don't understand that a 3rd line scoring center is not a marginal NHL player. A quality team that hopes to contend for the Cup better have 3 scoring lines and for that, you need a 3C that can put up some points. Frost has been getting better and better on faceoffs. and this puck management issue, is a figment of your imagination.
- MJL

Oh sure, I just dreamt Frost made a stupid no look pass out his own corner right into the slot area in the second period last night. Luckily no Blues were able to intercept it. You are unbelievable and once again show you have no credibility. If you are going to present analysis of Frost's performance, you need to present all sides. And stop blaming Frost's linemates all the time. Yes, it would have been nice if they converted some of those nice passes he made, but it would also be nice if Frost would shoot the puck once in a while.

I still think it’s 50/50

In: Boston, FL, Toronto, NYR, Carolina

Leaves 3 spots for: us, Pitts, NYI, NJ, the Caps, TB & Detroit

At least the stretch run will be interesting for a change.
- BiggE

while unlikely still think buffalo goes on a little run to be a possible factor.

I still think it’s 50/50

In: Boston, FL, Toronto, NYR, Carolina

Leaves 3 spots for: us, Pitts, NYI, NJ, the Caps, TB & Detroit

At least the stretch run will be interesting for a change.
- BiggE

I think TB gets in. NJ has so much to overcome with injuries. If they get healthy in time they will be in. I think the Flyers will fight it out with Pitts, NYI, the Caps and Det.

At this point I want them to make the playoffs.

I think TB gets in. NJ has so much to overcome with injuries. If they get healthy in time they will be in. I think the Flyers will fight it out with Pitts, NYI, the Caps and Det.

At this point I want them to make the playoffs.
- mickel25

I question Tampa. Stamkos is not happy about the the lack of contract negotiations. They could be looking to move him.

I think TB gets in. NJ has so much to overcome with injuries. If they get healthy in time they will be in. I think the Flyers will fight it out with Pitts, NYI, the Caps and Det.

At this point I want them to make the playoffs.
- mickel25

It's amazing how important the goal differential stat is to teams making or not making the playoffs. The Islanders have a negative goal differential and Pittsburgh has a positive one, but only today has Pittsburgh moved ahead of the Islanders which could have been predicted. Every playoff team in the Metro and Atlantic divisions now have a positive goal differential, while every team outside of the playoffs has a negative one.

Oh sure, I just dreamt Frost made a stupid no look pass out his own corner right into the slot area in the second period last night. Luckily no Blues were able to intercept it. You are unbelievable and once again show you have no credibility. If you are going to present analysis of Frost's performance, you need to present all sides. And stop blaming Frost's linemates all the time. Yes, it would have been nice if they converted some of those nice passes he made, but it would also be nice if Frost would shoot the puck once in a while.
- jd250

Again, you don't seem to understand sample size and that a player is judged on the whole of his play, rather than just one isolated play. Again, Frost is a playmaker. He is a first pass player. This puck management issue you present is a figment of your imagination. It simply doesn't exist. The reality is that Frost is one of the best forwards on the team in terms of puck management and he is one of the better two way forwards on the team. All of the factual evidence shows this. Which I can present to support my credibility. When you point out that Frost set Foerster up with what should've been a sure goal, and he shoots wide with net to shoot at. That is not blaming his linemates. That is simply looking at the facts. Which is something that escapes you.

I think I'm getting a little tired of the words "small sample size". All summer I heard Morgan Frost being labeled as our "lead scorer" or "lead point producer at even strength" due to his play in the second half of last season. That was a small sample size and also not necessarily true. Yes those things happen but Konency missed 22 games during that time. Credit Morgan Frost for upping his game but our real lead scorer was injured and if Frost is going to be the player some of you spent all summer convincing yourself that he is, he has to do what he did last season, this season. The argument has gone from he needs to play with more talented players to his linemates cannot finish, even if he’s playing with the best scorers on the team.

Again, you don't seem to understand sample size and that a player is judged on the whole of his play, rather than just one isolated play. Again, Frost is a playmaker. He is a first pass player. This puck management issue you present is a figment of your imagination. It simply doesn't exist. The reality is that Frost is one of the best forwards on the team in terms of puck management and he is one of the better two way forwards on the team. All of the factual evidence shows this. Which I can present to support my credibility. When you point out that Frost set Foerster up with what should've been a sure goal, and he shoots wide with net to shoot at. That is not blaming his linemates. That is simply looking at the facts. Which is something that escapes you.
- MJL

all it is, is whining which escapes you.

maybe you should track those would be points. Create some proprietary code and data sets to patent. Frost and his agent would like to see it.

[broken record] I love this team. [/broken record]

[broken record] I love this team.
- Scoob[/broken record]

fcs

On a serious note, I agree with you, Frost is a 3C with maybe potential to spot at 2C. If he can get his faceoff % higher and shoot the puck more, I think that would help him. Last night only 2 shots in 18 minutes and 40% of faceoffs (6 of 15). Also he still has lapses in his puck management, wants to make these cute plays that will eventually come back on the team.
- jd250

On a serious note, a blind dog could evaluate hockey players better than you.

Hooray more arguing over Morgan Frost for multiple pages.

What would a contract look like for Seeler? Sounds like they are going to extend him.

Again, you don't seem to understand sample size and that a player is judged on the whole of his play, rather than just one isolated play. Again, Frost is a playmaker. He is a first pass player. This puck management issue you present is a figment of your imagination. It simply doesn't exist. The reality is that Frost is one of the best forwards on the team in terms of puck management and he is one of the better two way forwards on the team. All of the factual evidence shows this. Which I can present to support my credibility. When you point out that Frost set Foerster up with what should've been a sure goal, and he shoots wide with net to shoot at. That is not blaming his linemates. That is simply looking at the facts. Which is something that escapes you.
- MJL

What facts can you present that shows Frost is one of the best forwards on the team in terms of puck management. I just gave you a concrete example of a bad decision from Frost. What "factual evidence"can you give to support your claim that its my imagination?

It's amazing how important the goal differential stat is to teams making or not making the playoffs. The Islanders have a negative goal differential and Pittsburgh has a positive one, but only today has Pittsburgh moved ahead of the Islanders which could have been predicted. Every playoff team in the Metro and Atlantic divisions now have a positive goal differential, while every team outside of the playoffs has a negative one.
- jd250

blind pass but it worked, fair enough, how many times has he went into the corner, got the puck and made that quick pass to the D to break out, he is actually good at it, he needs to take the right risk but like TK, Torts needs to live with it so Frost can use his skill and see where it takes him and the team.

Hooray more arguing over Morgan Frost for multiple pages.

What would a contract look like for Seeler? Sounds like they are going to extend him.
- mickel25

going to be interested to see what he gets. I can see him taking a tad less since the flyers saved his career. Will he get more term and less money per year?

What facts can you present that shows Frost is one of the best forwards on the team in terms of puck management. I just gave you a concrete example of a bad decision from Frost. What "factual evidence"can you give to support your claim that its my imagination?
- jd250

This is for giveaways/60. Frost is one of the better forwards on the team in terms of puck management.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

This is for showing his defensive impact when on the ice. GA/60 he is the best forward on the team. GF% He is second best on the team.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL



If according to you, he is so poor in managing the puck, where is the evidence of that?

going to be interested to see what he gets. I can see him taking a tad less since the flyers saved his career. Will he get more term and less money per year?
- hello it's me 2050

Wonderful. Why collect assets.

going to be interested to see what he gets. I can see him taking a tad less since the flyers saved his career. Will he get more term and less money per year?
- hello it's me 2050

I am comfortable with up to 3 years. Maybe like $1.5-2mil per? Not sure what he can command. I do not have a good feel for the going rate on third pair d-men. You assume he will be the 7th D-man after next year. So maybe a 1-2 year contract with a little higher AAV?

Player Size and Playoff Success
https://hockeyanalysis.co...size-and-playoff-success/

taller (bigger) Dmen, generally help a team in the playoffs..at least go further.

During the regular season teams with taller and heavier defensemen do slightly better however during the playoffs teams with taller and heavier defensemen do significantly better.

For forwards there is no significant difference and in fact for this time period teams with taller forwards actually did marginally poorer in the playoffs

Marginal NHL player.

https://twitter.com/Flyer...tatus/1747082288876208136

I fell asleep at 2-2. That winning goal by Tippett was insane. Wild backhander. He's really upped his game of late. We also did this without out top C and D man.. wild.

This team continues to surprise me. Epic road trip. TBH, if they keep this up, they just might make the playoffs. Regardless, stay the course, don't acquire anyone new and trade if the right deal comes along at the TDL.
- Hextall271

I feel like this was the second time within the recent past that Tip scored a goal like that.
What a goal, BTW!!
It's nice to see these kids stepping up and playing bigger and harder minutes.
I feel like Tip will only continue to get better, too!
I am really liking that top speed that Tip has shown that separates him from his defenders, too. He had that on display again last night

I am comfortable with up to 3 years. Maybe like $1.5-2mil per? Not sure what he can command. I do not have a good feel for the going rate on third pair d-men. You assume he will be the 7th D-man after next year. So maybe a 1-2 year contract with a little higher AAV?
- mickel25

one thing with seeler is he does not have a lot of mileage for your typical 30 year old.

I cant assume that he he has shown he is better than a #7.

Hooray more arguing over Morgan Frost for multiple pages.

What would a contract look like for Seeler? Sounds like they are going to extend him.
- mickel25

It’s better than arguing over the significance of a letter on one’s chest 😀