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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jan 20 @ 7:25 AM ET
He played one of those games with a broken ankle... blood seen through sock after the game...a game 7 of a playoff series after missing months. He wasnt very good in the Isles series the season before, no doubt, but he also had just came back from a very long layoff two games before that series started. That's always been a knock on Jarry, not only his durability, but his ability to be in his top form when he returns or soon after he returns. It takes him a nice while to get going and back to form after long layoffs. Look at his numbers the past few Octobers compared to November and December the past few seasons... after a long summer layoff.
- MattStrat


I believe that was Curt Schilling with the sock...

It was the Islanders series that he blew that worries me. The Pens were outplaying the Isles and Jarry seemed to mentally shrink and blow it.

Either way, we are tied to him now, so hopefully he can pull it together for a run.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jan 20 @ 9:27 AM ET
Pretty sure hockey players are professional enough not to think their teammates owe them an explanation on free agency.

My read is Jake wants to stay, but is questioning how competitive the team can be. I wouldn't blame him if he didn't want to be stuck on a team in purgatory when he still has prime years left.

- Tojo.

Jakes pay day is going to be higher than if he never played with Sid, his decision also has implications on Sids future. If I was Jake I would absolutely feel a responsibility to Sid. I’m guessing Guentzel and I had much different childhoods and up bringing though.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:32 AM ET
I’m up $1k on the year in sports betting. I’ll probably allow myself to lose $300 on sports wagering this weekend before I say no more but I highly doubt that will happen with the way that I play. Realistically I’m probably looking at max $200 in either losses or winnings over the course of the weekend. It all kind of depends on how stupid I get chasing live lines. If I were to predict it I’d probably say that at my peak I’ll be around $400 up and by the end of the weekend I’ll be pretty close to even.
- Victoro311


Do you just read the lines or do you “study” any sort of betting things? We just had sports gambling legalize kn the hard rock app here in Florida and a bunch of the guys in my beer league team are going ham on the betting haha
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 20 @ 2:44 PM ET
While this is true, he owes it to Sid to just tell the team what his plans are so they can prepare themselves as best as possible. Sid has definitely helped, and he also watches Jakes back on the ice as ridiculous as that is. Hopefully at some point he just makes it clear to the team that he’s going to free agency or that he wants to stay. Be a man about it instead of a little female dog.
- Grinder47

Not sure where this narrative is coming from, but it's completely false. Jake isn't hiding any of his intentions. Dubas is waiting to see that when the deadline comes we are healthy and in a spot to compete. If we aren't he will trade Jake to a contender. If we are Jake stays and they discuss the contract later. Not sure how that hasn't been made clear.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
Only three examples I can really think of where the winger was the linchpin of the line was Kane during his time in Chicago when centered by guys like Shaw on the second line, triplets era Kuch, and HBK Kessel
- Victoro311


Ovechkin? He carries the whole team.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
While Jarry is having a pretty nice season, he is 2-6 in the playoffs with an .891 sv%. The Pens are at the stage where they need a goalie who can steal a series if they want to make a run. So I have a massive lack of confidence in the Pens ability to do anything in the playoffs, but hoping that Jarry can prove me wrong.
- MacPatty


Jarry is having a solid season. I believe we had a preseason blog dedicated to this very topic. The narrative was we needed league average goaltending to be competitive. Please correct me if I'm wrong, most people were on board with this.

Halfway thru this season we've gotten better than average goaltending, top five at times even. What we need is league average shooting.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
Do you just read the lines or do you “study” any sort of betting things? We just had sports gambling legalize kn the hard rock app here in Florida and a bunch of the guys in my beer league team are going ham on the betting haha
- j.boyd919

No. I should get into actual analysis but no. I go strictly off vibes and the vibes have been good
lemieux_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.27.2012

Jan 20 @ 4:27 PM ET
Ovechkin? He carries the whole team.
- Thunderbolt


He's not looking so good this year without Backstrom feeding him passes..
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 20 @ 6:16 PM ET
Not sure where this narrative is coming from, but it's completely false. Jake isn't hiding any of his intentions. Dubas is waiting to see that when the deadline comes we are healthy and in a spot to compete. If we aren't he will trade Jake to a contender. If we are Jake stays and they discuss the contract later. Not sure how that hasn't been made clear.
- burgh4life87

It's Grinder so definitely not a narrative. His ideas are usually 100% his.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 20 @ 6:55 PM ET
No. I should get into actual analysis but no. I go strictly off vibes and the vibes have been good
- Victoro311



MickV
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Cambridge, MA
Joined: 07.03.2023

Jan 20 @ 7:03 PM ET
No. I should get into actual analysis but no. I go strictly off vibes and the vibes have been good
- Victoro311


You need a system, so you can tell everybody in Vegas about how you have a system.
abcpens10
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.21.2018

Jan 20 @ 8:32 PM ET
Didn’t realize the Pens are playing the knights tomorrow. I’m actually on my way to Vegas right now for a boys weekend. Finding a sick spot for the game shouldn’t be too hard.
- Victoro311


Got an extra ticket. Buddy bailed will be at stadium in 45 minutes
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 20 @ 9:46 PM ET
It's Grinder so definitely not a narrative. His ideas are usually 100% his.
- Tojo.

That's what I'm saying. Where did he come up with this story that Jake is the one holding out and not being open?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 20 @ 10:13 PM ET
Ovechkin? He carries the whole team.
- Thunderbolt


Ovechkin always had Backstrom or Kuzy.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 20 @ 10:39 PM ET
Ovechkin always had Backstrom or Kuzy.
- j.boyd919

chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 21 @ 12:39 AM ET
Another epic collapse in the 3rd. I can’t stand watching Geno do whatever it is he does. But status quo will remain.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jan 21 @ 12:54 AM ET
This game is exactly why I cant get behind this team being anything besides an average team. Good teams, teams that make the playoffs with a purpose, close out that game without a problem. Going to sleep for 10 minutes in the third period and losing a 2-0 lead is unacceptable.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 21 @ 1:16 AM ET
This game is exactly why I cant get behind this team being anything besides an average team. Good teams, teams that make the playoffs with a purpose, close out that game without a problem. Going to sleep for 10 minutes in the third period and losing a 2-0 lead is unacceptable.
- SuperHenderson13


Was going to say the same thing. Every time I get a little excited, they play a game like that. Vegas is missing a bunch of players too.

Alot of the teams they're chasing lost tonight too.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 21 @ 2:24 AM ET
Was going to say the same thing. Every time I get a little excited, they play a game like that. Vegas is missing a bunch of players too.

Alot of the teams they're chasing lost tonight too.

- madmike71


This has been a problem for years
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Get the Cup back, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:52 AM ET
Was going to say the same thing. Every time I get a little excited, they play a game like that. Vegas is missing a bunch of players too.

Alot of the teams they're chasing lost tonight too.

- madmike71


Perfect opportunity to gain some ground but once again they poop the bed in the third and yet another 2 goal lead is gone. Some crap as we've seen for a while now.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 21 @ 5:40 AM ET
Perfect opportunity to gain some ground but once again they poop the bed in the third and yet another 2 goal lead is gone. Some crap as we've seen for a while now.
- acdc1206


This actually hasn't happened much at all the last little while.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 21 @ 5:41 AM ET
Was going to say the same thing. Every time I get a little excited, they play a game like that. Vegas is missing a bunch of players too.

Alot of the teams they're chasing lost tonight too.

- madmike71


Vegas also beat the Rags and Bruins the past week as well.

So what you're saying is that a lot of the teams they're chasing lost as well, so they didn't lose much ground?.. That's great.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 21 @ 7:13 AM ET
Ovechkin always had Backstrom or Kuzy.
- j.boyd919


Ovechkin made Backstrom. Backstrom would've had a hard time beating out Jordan Staal for 3C.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 21 @ 7:44 AM ET
Ovechkin made Backstrom. Backstrom would've had a hard time beating out Jordan Staal for 3C.
- Thunderbolt


I think that's a bad take, Thundy. I think they complemented each other very well but Backstrom was a talent of his own. If Staal had Backstroms offense skills, and skating, plus his own defensive prowess he'd be considered one of best players of all time hahah
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