Already Crowning Ersson a better goalie than Hart? Good luck with that. Why wouldnt you want two solid young goaltenders. Hart is only a year older... and has a lot more games played.
- Mahewman

Because when you are a rebuilding team, spending 10m on goalies doesn't work. As a Boston fan I would think you know what i am talking about. Swayman is a better goalie than Ullmark but Ullmark makes a lot more. Bet you would trade Ullmark in a sec if if Lindholm or Coots deal could be done.

Where are these cap space figures coming from? Looks wildly inaccurate.
https://www.capfriendly.com/
- jfkst1

You get one guess fill in the blank.

___ of thin air

Possibly prorated amounts... showing the full season cap of players, maybe?... flyers could bring in $23M worth of players? Just a thought.

As long as Danny Briere could bring in veteran supplementary players at very lower prices -- late round picks -- I'm okay with it... it's good for the fan base, young players on the team... and to bring on revenue for the organization for use going forward; PO revenue is important for a team, and has not been available for all too long. That said, I wouldn't be okay with higher picks, which could hinder the rebuild/future.
- ForeverFlyer16

Aah playoff revenue is good for the owner.

Because when you are a rebuilding team, spending 10m on goalies doesn't work. As a Boston fan I would think you know what i am talking about. Swayman is a better goalie than Ullmark but Ullmark makes a lot more. Bet you would trade Ullmark in a sec if if Lindholm or Coots deal could be done.
- Flyerloon

Nobody is suggesting $10M AAV on Hart... this contract, or ever, actually... Flyers are not pressed to sign a long-term deal at this point... and Hart is an asset... one that can be cashed in on if Ersson does prove capable for #1G. Then what do the do for a #2g with Sandstrom znd Peterson rapping the bed in LV... and the talented pipeline goalies not yet here, and ready. Patience is a virtue with the goalies in the system... Flyers must handle it properly and maximize their assets... as I see it anyway. I'd just temper the expectations of Sam... and losing Carter... Two good goalies, one dirt cheap the other reasonably priced, is really a luxury.

Aah playoff revenue is good for the owner.
- Nighthawk

With the organization, it is actually piped back into the Flyers... lack of revenue causes a lesser product/product support... Go years upon years without PS revenue, and you start having real concerns. The Flyers have actually been holding down the cost for STMs... how long can they hold it down without revenue coming in? So, while it is indeed good for the owner(s), in the case of the Flyers, it is also good for the fans and us STMs.

Because when you are a rebuilding team, spending 10m on goalies doesn't work. As a Boston fan I would think you know what i am talking about. Swayman is a better goalie than Ullmark but Ullmark makes a lot more. Bet you would trade Ullmark in a sec if if Lindholm or Coots deal could be done.
- Flyerloon

I am not trading Ullmark until Swayman signs long term... Which has not happened.. There are rumors of him wanting to be closer to home and him complaining about arbitration the other day, out of nowhere, wasnt a good sign.

Bruins have always spent on goaltending and that is fine with me.

Nobody is suggesting $10M AAV on Hart... this contract, or ever, actually... Flyers are not pressed to sign a long-term deal at this point... and Hart is an asset... one that can be cashed in on if Ersson does prove capable for #1G. Then what do the do for a #2g with Sandstrom znd Peterson rapping the bed in LV... and the talented pipeline goalies not yet here, and ready. Patience is a virtue with the goalies in the system... Flyers must handle it properly and maximize their assets... as I see it anyway. I'd just temper the expectations of Sam... and losing Carter... Two good goalies, one dirt cheap the other reasonably priced, is really a luxury.
- ForeverFlyer16

Never said Hart would make 10m, I said GOALIES making 10m. Yes I would bring up peterson and play him as the back up. We are rebuilding please remember that and making moves towards winning a cup in 5+ years should be the only goal.

This is a D heavy draft and one we should be focusing on getting 2 solid defenders for the future anything else is poor management. Trading assets for picks and putting Elis on LTIR for the rest of the season at the TDL to acquire more picks. Take bad contracts that are expiring, and also play the 3rd party game and hold money on deals for picks. We need to stock up picks this years and the next 3.

A big Part of the problem in LV is the goalies.

I am not trading Ullmark until Swayman signs long term... Which has not happened.. There are rumors of him wanting to be closer to home and him complaining about arbitration the other day, out of nowhere, wasnt a good sign.

Bruins have always spent on goaltending and that is fine with me.
- Mahewman

If I was a Boston fan, why would I care if they spend $10M on goalies. Scroll and and notice they still have $4.6M of cap space. So they are in a nice position to get something done. Lindholm would be a nice fit. Monahan. Henrique. All those other teams with no cap space must be envious.

Who cares?

FlyerBuzz 🙄

Never said Hart would make 10m, I said GOALIES making 10m. Yes I would bring up peterson and play him as the back up. We are rebuilding please remember that and making moves towards winning a cup in 5+ years should be the only goal.

This is a D heavy draft and one we should be focusing on getting 2 solid defenders for the future anything else is poor management. Trading assets for picks and putting Elis on LTIR for the rest of the season at the TDL to acquire more picks. Take bad contracts that are expiring, and also play the 3rd party game and hold money on deals for picks. We need to stock up picks this years and the next 3.

A big Part of the problem in LV is the goalies.
- Flyerloon

As a STM who attends over 50% of the home games... and watches all the rest on TV... I stand by the Mr. Snider path of never tanking... I want ti see wins at WFC... I want to feel the electric atmosphere I the building again which is presently there... I want to win, and I honestly believe that that can, and will be done with the current leadership WITHOUT tanking. What I'm asking for is to progress with the current rebuild but boost it up with a PO run for the kids to learn from... Tweak the team without harming the future, and make the POs...and don't give foolishly give up assets like Hart just for the possible glitter of fools gold in a new hot goalie just one year younger than the proven asset we have in Hart. I understand your point... I just don't agree with your method... leave that for the Sixers.

I was referring to what Ek was trying to say... when he used that number.

We must keep in mind that the LTIR allowance must be accounted for also, so the cap standing is altered, and being below the cap floor shouldn't be looked at.

... Why the laughing memes? Not a very good way to have an intelligent adult, non-combative discussion, as I see it... but I suppose that is merely the norm on here with some people.
- ForeverFlyer16

I think the smilies were in reference to your lack of understanding of the cap and the Flyers cap position.

Yes... but only after your clarification... which was needed. Please excuse me for assuming it was aimed at me; that's not unusual on this board... and I'm not familiar with you. My apologies.

Briere & Company have wisely held back on LTIR to allow banking. When needed LTIR can be utilized with Ryan Ellis... LTIR allows teams to replace an injured player up to the LTIR amount... if I have it correctly, at the TDL Ellis can be put on it and his large salary can be used for a rental player or so... This is what I meant by accounting foe LTIR.

Again sorry for my incorrect assumption... and snarky response. PEACE ✌️
- ForeverFlyer16

The Flyers would first have to increase their cap spending to be able to place Ellis on LTIR. If they're sellers at the deadline, the opposite would happen. Unless they're taking some bad contracts back. A player can only be placed on LTIR IF replacing that player puts a team over the upper limit.

I can understand with the gigantic sample size on Ersson's resume... *sarcasm* I suppose you'd have moved Parent out for Wayne Stephenson back in the day too... and Wayne had more of a track record. Remember the Flyers moved Bernie to go with Favell, only to go get him back as soon as they could... and won two Cups behind his two Conn Smythe Trophy seasons. The NHL is full of a boatload of goalies on big contracts riding the bench or AHL **COUGHCalPetersonCOUGH**... Look, if Sam can displace the proven Hart after a couple seasons, move on from Hart... until then, sign him to a new bridge deal... I believe there is like only one year difference in age... and Hart has much more years of experience, and good seasons. JMO
- ForeverFlyer16

Hart is not going to want to sign a bridge deal. He is going to want to sign a long term deal.

As a STM who attends over 50% of the home games... and watches all the rest on TV... I stand by the Mr. Snider path of never tanking... I want ti see wins at WFC... I want to feel the electric atmosphere I the building again which is presently there... I want to win, and I honestly believe that that can, and will be done with the current leadership WITHOUT tanking. What I'm asking for is to progress with the current rebuild but boost it up with a PO run for the kids to learn from... Tweak the team without harming the future, and make the POs...and don't give foolishly give up assets like Hart just for the possible glitter of fools gold in a new hot goalie just one year younger than the proven asset we have in Hart. I understand your point... I just don't agree with your method... leave that for the Sixers.
- ForeverFlyer16

You've missed the point. Hart is not a player that the Flyers should be signing long term. Which is what he wants. Hart is an average goalie in this league. He's going to want 5-6M a year. The Flyers as a rebuilding team, should not be paying that to Hart. What is actually the fools gold is the electric atmosphere and winning a few games in the regular season. I'm not a fan of tanking either but anyone who suggests that is the best approach to take, is correct. This organization has not built squat in decades. All of a sudden they are now? What have they done to earn your belief?

The only place the Flyers have $23mm in space is on the main CapCentral screen on this page, which has no basis in reality. Even the Flyers team CapCentral page says they only have $1.4mm.

As a STM who attends over 50% of the home games... and watches all the rest on TV... I stand by the Mr. Snider path of never tanking... I want ti see wins at WFC... I want to feel the electric atmosphere I the building again which is presently there... I want to win, and I honestly believe that that can, and will be done with the current leadership WITHOUT tanking. What I'm asking for is to progress with the current rebuild but boost it up with a PO run for the kids to learn from... Tweak the team without harming the future, and make the POs...and don't give foolishly give up assets like Hart just for the possible glitter of fools gold in a new hot goalie just one year younger than the proven asset we have in Hart. I understand your point... I just don't agree with your method... leave that for the Sixers.
- ForeverFlyer16

We have been trying to tweak this team for 20 years, when is it enough?



Yes I would like to see the team win like everyone, however, at this time I would prefer the opposite. Winning and getting a pick from 11-15 doesn't help us as much as getting a top5 pick.


Also aren't the sixers closer to a championship than the Flyers?

I know the sample size is smaller, but I'll take Errson over Hart. I understand having 2 decent goalies is nice but it is a luxury a cup team spends on not a team in a rebuild.


NJ, Carolina, Ottawa, Buffalo are all teams that could use a Hart, and all of these teams have no1 pciks and good prospects.


I am thinking about the future and you are kind of stuck in the now.

We have been trying to tweak this team for 20 years, when is it enough?



Yes I would like to see the team win like everyone, however, at this time I would prefer the opposite. Winning and getting a pick from 11-15 doesn't help us as much as getting a top5 pick.


Also aren't the sixers closer to a championship than the Flyers?

I know the sample size is smaller, but I'll take Errson over Hart. I understand having 2 decent goalies is nice but it is a luxury a cup team spends on not a team in a rebuild.


NJ, Carolina, Ottawa, Buffalo are all teams that could use a Hart, and all of these teams have no1 pciks and good prospects.


I am thinking about the future and you are kind of stuck in the now.
- Flyerloon

There is simply no reason for the Flyers to overspend on goalies at this point in time.

do you still wear your coaches fedora? Lol

Unless you can get a top center and another dman I doubt it. The flyers are playing well right now but they are Stanley cup contender deep.

Unless you can get a top center and another dman I doubt it. The flyers are playing well right now but they are not Stanley cup contender deep.
- bird_dog_pa

Phuk the Phlyers

Some good ol' time hockey in Laval last night. Arby tossing em around like it's nothing. Mailloux mixing it up. This tandem is gonna be a problem once they crack the Habs. Ottawa vs Montreal will be absolute wars for years to come.

So the Islander have a new bench boss in Patrick Roy.


This should be interesting.

Eklund: Are the Flyers Buyers? How much money is out there?
- Eklund

you taking the weekend off?


16 years ago you would have been all over the roy news

So the Islander have a new bench boss in Patrick Roy.


This should be interesting.
- dmnted

Roy took the job after learning NYI had $47M of cap space to make deadline deals.