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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
It's called a give and go and it's a pretty common play in hockey. Frost is getting double shifted in the 3rd period for a reason. He's had a strong game.
- MJL

There are certain patterns or plays in hockey. That one is a very common one. A give and go in that instance was not the right play. The puck needed to be on net for Atkinson to deflect or get a rebound. It's a pretty common play. But, I will say, Frost is playing a good game, as are several Flyers.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
The Flyers had 3 defenseman out there 6-5 WTF!
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:34 PM ET
The Flyers had 3 defenseman out there 6-5 WTF!
- jd250


Jack Adams candidate.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
Jack Adams candidate.
- rayc16

I think it was because the Flyers top forwards were gassed since they played most of the 3rd period.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:36 PM ET
That should not be a hat trick .. no hat tricks on empty net goals!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:37 PM ET
Jack Adams candidate.
- rayc16


Doors getting blown off now. 7 5 6 gaa last 3 games. What a mess.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:38 PM ET
There are certain patterns or plays in hockey. That one is a very common one. A give and go in that instance was not the right play. The puck needed to be on net for Atkinson to deflect or get a rebound. It's a pretty common play. But, I will say, Frost is playing a good game, as are several Flyers.
- jd250


Frost attempted the right play. Are you admitting what is already known? That you're clueless and being an ass all at the same time?
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 23 @ 9:40 PM ET
SELL MORTIMOR SELL!
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 23 @ 9:41 PM ET
Risto -2 in 12 mins of ice time tonight.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:44 PM ET
Doors getting blown off now. 7 5 6 gaa last 3 games. What a mess.
- Hextall271


This game is the same as the Avalanche game. Flyers getting beat by high level elite players. It can't call it a mess when the Flyers are battling and competing. To the last second. They've won a lot of tight games this year and the Flyers margin of error is very small. Just not going to continue with that pace with such a short bench.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
Risto -2 in 12 mins of ice time tonight.
- StepfordSam


Did Cates play tonight?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
Did Cates play tonight?
- rayc16


Cates played 8 minutes tonight.

It's not his fault that they lost but this was a poorly coached game by Tortorella. He's desperately trying to hold onto this thing. His team is going to quickly run out of gas. They play so hard and there is no reason to go to such a short bench. There is a big picture.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 23 @ 9:53 PM ET
Cates played 8 minutes tonight.

It's not his fault that they lost but this was a poorly coached game by Tortorella. He's desperately trying to hold onto this thing. His team is going to quickly run out of gas. They play so hard and there is no reason to go to such a short bench. There is a big picture.

- MJL


Me coach. Me win next game. Ooga booga.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:54 PM ET
Cates played 8 minutes tonight.

It's not his fault that they lost but this was a poorly coached game by Tortorella. He's desperately trying to hold onto this thing. His team is going to quickly run out of gas. They play so hard and there is no reason to go to such a short bench. There is a big picture.

- MJL


It's just weird he relied so much on Laughton and Cates last year and combined they get barely as many minutes as Coots.

They should name Coots captain, it's ridiculous to me.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:56 PM ET
Great game from what I saw (last two periods) by Frost…up on his skates , lots of skillful plays. Drysdale was good, Farabee continues to have a breakout year. Disappointed in the Harts news…never a dull moment in Flyers land.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:57 PM ET
It's just weird he relied so much on Laughton and Cates last year and combined they get barely as many minutes as Coots.

They should name Coots captain, it's ridiculous to me.

- rayc16

To me Coots is the defacto captain.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 23 @ 9:57 PM ET
No one got in Kucherov's kitchen. Everyone knows he is a world class player with a temper. Somebody please get in his face at least once!! WTF! Torts with 3 defenders out there on a 6 on 5. Another WTF!! This team need the all-star break to start tomorrow.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:58 PM ET
To me Coots is the defacto captain.
- landros 2


to you, me and probably every player on the team. Why not make it official.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 23 @ 9:58 PM ET
Great game from what I saw (last two periods) by Frost…up on his skates , lots of skillful plays. Drysdale was good, Farabee continues to have a breakout year. Disappointed in the Harts news…never a dull moment in Flyers land.
- landros 2
Yeah, and with Dillon Dube also taking a leave of absence today I think the writing may be on the wall. Yikes!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:58 PM ET
It's just weird he relied so much on Laughton and Cates last year and combined they get barely as many minutes as Coots.

They should name Coots captain, it's ridiculous to me.

- rayc16


TB had the lead but Cooper used pretty much his entire bench. It was a factor for why TB was the stronger team down the stretch in the 3rd period. Flyers should be rolling at least 3 lines in the 3rd period. Coaching in that manner in January shows desperation. It's certainly not considering anything in terms of team development. Can't win that way.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:00 PM ET
No one got in Kucherov's kitchen. Everyone knows he is a world class player with a temper. Somebody please get in his face at least once!! WTF! Torts with 3 defenders out there on a 6 on 5. Another WTF!! This team need the all-star break to start tomorrow.
- Phillywhiteout


The Flyers were too passive on the PK. Too respectful of the TB skilled players. They've been a great PK team all season. Not tonight.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 23 @ 10:11 PM ET
TB had the lead but Cooper used pretty much his entire bench. It was a factor for why TB was the stronger team down the stretch in the 3rd period. Flyers should be rolling at least 3 lines in the 3rd period. Coaching in that manner in January shows desperation. It's certainly not considering anything in terms of team development. Can't win that way.
- MJL
Gonna disagree here. It's actually easier to use your entire bench when you are playing with the lead. When you are trailing most coaches will shorten their bench. In fact, I'd say that if the roles were reversed Cooper would have shortened his bench and played his veteran stars more.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:16 PM ET
Gonna disagree here. It's actually easier to use your entire bench when you are playing with the lead. When you are trailing most coaches will shorten their bench. In fact, I'd say that if the roles were reversed Cooper would have shortened his bench and played his veteran stars more.
- Phillywhiteout


Cooper is not going to run his team into the ground for a game in January. Shortening a bench is playing the top two lines and mixing in a 3rd line. Tortorella was double shifting the Couturier and Frost lines. Did you not see where I commented that Cooper had the lead? Tortorella is coaching idiotically and acting like its the playoffs. For him, maybe it is. It shouldn't be. If this keeps up, he's not going to have much of a team left in February and March. A lot of season still left.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
This game is the same as the Avalanche game. Flyers getting beat by high level elite players. It can't call it a mess when the Flyers are battling and competing. To the last second. They've won a lot of tight games this year and the Flyers margin of error is very small. Just not going to continue with that pace with such a short bench.
- MJL


Totally agree with you on this! Thank you for not gloating about the loss and fairly pointing out why they have been struggling. After a quick back read, I heard Torts said they will be going with 11/7. I have seen most of his pressers but not all. Has anyone called him out on the short bench and how it will wear the team down? Not a Torts hater but don't agree with him on this.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
It's just weird he relied so much on Laughton and Cates last year and combined they get barely as many minutes as Coots.

They should name Coots captain, it's ridiculous to me.

- rayc16


Definitely strange. Guys like Laughton and Coots can help eat up minutes with the 11/7 "strategy." I don't get it. It's been noted on here that we will wear ourselves out trying to make the playoffs, then have no gas at all if it happens. Not sure what Torts thinks he will accomplish with his recent decisions.
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