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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
well sure, most people had one pre 2000

but i didnt think 17yo kids are walking around with those in 2002...i guess it possible. but that would make me question the whole thing even more.

- senstroll

Remember it was at the World Junior Championships.

Fans would have been walking around with them.

Players would have been walking around with them.

Filming hours and hours of stuff that they would never, ever watch ever again.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
well sure, most people had one pre 2000

but i didnt think 17yo kids are walking around with those in 2002...i guess it possible. but that would make me question the whole thing even more.

- senstroll


Of the 2002 roster there were 18 kids who had already been drafted and 4 who had not (Fleury was one of the nots). The NHL ELC maximum salary was set to 50% of the league minimum at that time, which made it $87,500USD.

The Nokia 7650 or the Sanyo SCP-5300 - both camera phones available in 2002 - cost about $400. That's money these kids would have possibly had available to them. Not to mention hockey is typically a rich person's sport. Maybe a little so in 2002, but the families with the resources would typically fare better at producing NHL calibre players since they could afford better equipment, training and access to facilities.

That said the only thing I know is that someone said they saw the video. I don't even know if that someone was law enforcement or just some random whackjob.

Edit: It is hard to find old salary data. An example I can find is that Kyle Wellwood wasn't signed at the time of the WJC; he signed in May of 2003 - but that contract carried an AAV of $484 but was worth $825k / year, so there were about $400k in bonuses attached and he was a 5th round pick.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
In 2001, I bought a Kodak 1MP digital camera that was small, shot crappy video, and only cost about $100. It was good enough to run an eBay business then.
- GalacticStone


digital camera with video makes sense. think i got my first one around 2002-03, which I also used for ebay as well..but it was still pretty crappy vids

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
Columbus ready to hear offers for their "big names" like Laine, Provorov, Jenner and Elvis.

Time to rebuild the rebuild in Columbus!

- Scabeh

If we trade for Laine, does a vortex open up and unleash Spatso on Leafs Nation forever?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Small, handheld cameras (with tiny tapes) were all the rage. We called them "camcorders."

I had one.


- Atomic Wedgie


That reminds me ...we have a box in the storage room with a couple of those.

I better get down there and erase the tapes! God knows what's on there!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Of the 2002 roster there were 18 kids who had already been drafted and 4 who had not (Fleury was one of the nots). The NHL ELC maximum salary was set to 50% of the league minimum at that time, which made it $87,500USD.

The Nokia 7650 or the Sanyo SCP-5300 - both camera phones available in 2002 - cost about $400. That's money these kids would have possibly had available to them. Not to mention hockey is typically a rich person's sport. Maybe a little so in 2002, but the families with the resources would typically fare better at producing NHL calibre players since they could afford better equipment, training and access to facilities.

That said the only thing I know is that someone said they saw the video. I don't even know if that someone was law enforcement or just some random whackjob.

- Monkeypunk

It's the 2003 roster, no?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Remember it was at the World Junior Championships.

Fans would have been walking around with them.

Players would have been walking around with them.

Filming hours and hours of stuff that they would never, ever watch ever again.

- Atomic Wedgie

Or, in this case, wished nobody else ever watched.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Jan 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
Remember it was at the World Junior Championships.

Fans would have been walking around with them.

Players would have been walking around with them.

Filming hours and hours of stuff that they would never, ever watch ever again.

- Atomic Wedgie

I'm sure this video was watched so many times the tape is damn near damaged beyond repair.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
That reminds me ...we have a box in the storage room with a couple of those.

I better get down there and erase the tapes! God knows what's on there!

- The Law

I wake up every day and thank an imaginary God for not having digital cameras when I went to high school and university.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but at this point the video tape is still just a rumour, no?

You'd know better than me, but with no victim testimony and no actual video, I can't see charges being laid.

- Atomic Wedgie


I haven't been paying too much attention to the 03' facts but I think the evidence is that somebody says they saw the video and could identify the person(s) on the video ..or filming or something like that.

If so ....ya, hearsay evidence.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Or, in this case, wished nobody else ever watched.
- Canada Cup

To be clear, I wasn't referring to the alleged video of a rape.

I was speaking to the fact that everyone of that era recorded hours of video, burned it on a CD and never, ever watched it again.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
Remember it was at the World Junior Championships.

Fans would have been walking around with them.

Players would have been walking around with them.

Filming hours and hours of stuff that they would never, ever watch ever again.

- Atomic Wedgie


so true

so assume its on some old cassette tape or smaller vhs format..whatever..someone kept it all this time..or took time to transfer it to something.

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
It's the 2003 roster, no?
- Atomic Wedgie


Sorry 2002-2003. Started in 2002 ended in 2003.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 2:30 PM ET
obiwan voice
now thats a name I have not heard in a long long time

- senstroll

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
digital camera with video makes sense. think i got my first one around 2002-03, which I also used for ebay as well..but it was still pretty crappy vids
- senstroll

That's why the porn was so poop back then. I'd rather watch the WWF Diva fights. Way better quality than our pre-Alien's gave us HD after 2008 or whatever tech.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
To be clear, I wasn't referring to the alleged video of a rape.

I was speaking to the fact that everyone of that era recorded hours of video, burned it on a CD and never, ever watched it again.

- Atomic Wedgie

I know
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Jan 26 @ 2:35 PM ET
actually place on the IR
- dmnted



Tre - Hey Bobby, We can put you on waivers and might get claimed or you can be nursing an imaginary lingering issue and we will put you on IR till we can dump Reaves. Which is it?


Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 2:35 PM ET
Speaking of non-sense NHL stuff. Is anybody else weirded out that Sam Reinhart has a chance to break the single PPG in a season record?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:36 PM ET
I haven't been paying too much attention to the 03' facts but I think the evidence is that somebody says they saw the video and could identify the person(s) on the video ..or filming or something like that.

If so ....ya, hearsay evidence.

- The Law

I think investigators would be trying to get the video and/or people identified on the video and in the room who weren’t participating.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Speaking of non-sense NHL stuff. Is anybody else weirded out that Sam Reinhart has a chance to break the single PPG in a season record?
- AdamFrench


im excited for him to score 60 goals and sign for 2 mil less than Nylander
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Columbus ready to hear offers for their "big names" like Laine, Provorov, Jenner and Elvis.

Time to rebuild the rebuild in Columbus!

- Scabeh


Provorov and Jenner S.V.P.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
That's why the porn was so poop back then. I'd rather watch the WWF Diva fights. Way better quality than our pre-Alien's gave us HD after 2008 or whatever tech.
- AdamFrench


In the early 90's live porn consisted of squinting at a black and white fuzzy screen trying to watch the Playboy channel that your parents didn't subscribe to.

"I think I saw a boob!"
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
Speaking of non-sense NHL stuff. Is anybody else weirded out that Sam Reinhart has a chance to break the single PPG in a season record?
- AdamFrench

It’s amazing what more than doubling your shooting % can do.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Jan 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
new blog everyone
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
In the early 90's live porn consisted of squinting at a black and white fuzzy screen trying to watch the Playboy channel that your parents didn't subscribe to.

"I think I saw a boob!"

- The Law

CITY TV
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