I agree…I see them setting a price and when and if a team wants to pay the deal gets done. Apparently DB continues to actively engage a bunch of teams.
- landros 2

sometimes you will have to alter that price if not met. Not saying you ben dover, just have to be reasonable. hence look at inept fletcher.

One thing that scares me a little is something "jonesy" said. Something like they are not looking to win deals but want fair ones.

TK with 50% retention is the way to go. Think you can really set yourself up nicely if you trade him.

TK with 50% retention is the way to go. Think you can really set yourself up nicely if you trade him.
- hello it's me 2050

Yup. That or take a contract back, nothing too long tho

Yup. That or take a contract back, nothing too long tho
- ClaudeFather

He can possibly be a missing piece for a team. Very very affordable. 2 playoff runs. Yep take a contract back to increase the package coming back. This shouldn't be hard for the GM's

That being said an 8 year ext in the summer.

sometimes you will have to alter that price if not met. Not saying you ben dover, just have to be reasonable. hence look at inept fletcher.

One thing that scares me a little is something "jonesy" said. Something like they are not looking to win deals but want fair ones.
- hello it's me 2050

Ya with a new GM I’m sure it is a little tough….you don’t want to get taken advantage of but you also know you really need to be aggressive. I agree with you on Fletcher…his inability to move JVR while willing to eat salary really showed a guy that was not very good at that part of the job. To get things done he always seemed to over pay on both trades and contracts.

I pull the trigger when the deal makes sense to me. I am not putting any time frame on it if I was the GM.

As far as a bidding war only 1 player has that type of value imo, TK.

It is important to acquire as many picks/ legit prospects at this dead line. Then use what you acquire to possibly increase your draft position or take advantage of teams who may want to dump players.
- hello it's me 2050

For Tk I see him as a draft deal to maximize the bidding war.

For Tk I see him as a draft deal to maximize the bidding war.
- Peter Richards

think value is higher now. 2 playoff runs > 1

Yup. That or take a contract back, nothing too long tho
- ClaudeFather

The Flyers should try and avoid retaining salary in future years in my opinion. I wouldn't turn down a good deal because of it but I'd prefer they didn't add any more dead cap space then they already have.

TK with 50% retention is the way to go. Think you can really set yourself up nicely if you trade him.
- hello it's me 2050

That should get you at least a decent prospect and a 1rst. I like the Av’s in that type of deal. I know they refused to part with Byram in the CG discussions if you believe Elliot Friedman… the Av’s wanted more. With their injuries and with Nichushkin in rehab along with their cup aspirations I think that’s a great target with TK if you look to move him.

If that was the case he would have cost substantially more money
- mr4tno

And that’s a bad thing ?

sometimes you will have to alter that price if not met. Not saying you ben dover, just have to be reasonable. hence look at inept fletcher.

One thing that scares me a little is something "jonesy" said. Something like they are not looking to win deals but want fair ones.
- hello it's me 2050

A fair deal is a win win🧐

The Flyers should try and avoid retaining salary in future years in my opinion. I wouldn't turn down a good deal because of it but I'd prefer they didn't add any more dead cap space then they already have.
- MJL

Retaining salary in this case, 1 year, will not have any negative impact in any future years when they will potentially need the cap space.

Retaining on TK if moved is a no brainer move.

That should get you at least a decent prospect and a 1rst. I like the Av’s in that type of deal. I know they refused to part with Byram in the CG discussions if you believe Elliot Friedman… the Av’s wanted more. With their injuries and with Nichushkin in rehab along with their cup aspirations I think that’s a great target with TK if you look to move him.
- landros 2

We have to move Risto seeler walker or sanheim then York and drysdale are untouchable

Ya with a new GM I’m sure it is a little tough….you don’t want to get taken advantage of but you also know you really need to be aggressive. I agree with you on Fletcher…his inability to move JVR while willing to eat salary really showed a guy that was not very good at that part of the job. To get things done he always seemed to over pay on both trades and contracts.
- landros 2

It didnt take his inability to move JVR to show he wasnt good at his job hahahahaa

We have to move Risto seeler walker or sanheim then York and drysdale are untouchable
- 2Real

who is going to trade for RR? he has no value. none. zero. zilch. nada

The Flyers should try and avoid retaining salary in future years in my opinion. I wouldn't turn down a good deal because of it but I'd prefer they didn't add any more dead cap space then they already have.
- MJL

One or two years, they’re still shaping this team. There shouldn’t be an immediate rush

One or two years, they’re still shaping this team. There shouldn’t be an immediate rush
- ClaudeFather

There shouldn't be but there can be more opportunity to weaponize cap space and acquire future assets to help teams out with the cap. If the Flyers can stay out of LTIR and avoid bonus overages, they could possibly do that. Retaining salary hurts that potential. I wouldn't turn down a good deal because of it but I'd prefer not retaining. There is a possibility at some point, they may be able to move Ellis contract.

who is going to trade for RR? he has no value. none. zero. zilch. nada
- hello it's me 2050

Best Flyers d man - jd250

There shouldn't be but there can be more opportunity to weaponize cap space and acquire future assets to help teams out with the cap. If the Flyers can stay out of LTIR and avoid bonus overages, they could possibly do that. Retaining salary hurts that potential. I wouldn't turn down a good deal because of it but I'd prefer not retaining. There is a possibility at some point, they may be able to move Ellis contract.
- MJL

TK makes 5.5 Retain half your at 2.75.

so a 2.75 cap hit. lets say you replace his roster spot with someone making 2 million ( something a rebuilding team would do). You are actually saving money and your scenario is moot.

If you trade TK your best bet is to retain. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.

TK makes 5.5 Retain half your at 2.75.

so a 2.75 cap hit. lets say you replace his roster spot with someone making 2 million ( something a rebuilding team would do). You are actually saving money and your scenario is moot.

If you trade TK your best bet is to retain. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.
- hello it's me 2050

Chuck, is that you?

There shouldn't be but there can be more opportunity to weaponize cap space and acquire future assets to help teams out with the cap. If the Flyers can stay out of LTIR and avoid bonus overages, they could possibly do that. Retaining salary hurts that potential. I wouldn't turn down a good deal because of it but I'd prefer not retaining. There is a possibility at some point, they may be able to move Ellis contract.
- MJL

Retaining the salad is doing exactly what you are saying, weaponizing cap space…

TK makes 5.5 Retain half your at 2.75.

so a 2.75 cap hit. lets say you replace his roster spot with someone making 2 million ( something a rebuilding team would do). You are actually saving money and your scenario is moot.

If you trade TK your best bet is to retain. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.
- hello it's me 2050

It’s weaponizing the cap space for a better return lol. Is it taking away the ability to do that in the future if you have over the retain slots, yes. But you’re still using cap space for a greater return. Whether it’s now or next year.

Retaining the salad is doing exactly what you are saying, weaponizing cap space…
- ClaudeFather

Not quite the same thing but I get your point. I'd prefer trading Konecny without retaining salary. As I said previously, I would not turn down a good deal because of it.

Not quite the same thing but I get your point. I'd prefer trading Konecny without retaining salary. As I said previously, I would not turn down a good deal because of it.
- MJL

Yea, all depends on the deal

I’m not down with retaining any salary when moving someone like TK. If trading Risto, then yes, probably needing to entice the other side somewhat. When trading the best player in the trade, which I think TK would be, then no.