I’m not down with retaining any salary when moving someone like TK. If trading Risto, then yes, probably needing to entice the other side somewhat. When trading the best player in the trade, which I think TK would be, then no.
- Laceemup88

Without knowing what the return would be that’s extremely foolish

TK makes 5.5 Retain half your at 2.75.

so a 2.75 cap hit. lets say you replace his roster spot with someone making 2 million ( something a rebuilding team would do). You are actually saving money and your scenario is moot.

If you trade TK your best bet is to retain. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.
- hello it's me 2050

I do think a team would pay a king’s ransom for TK @ 50% retained but it’s pretty clear the Flyers aren’t trading him.

That would indicate a full tear down rebuild which they’re not doing.

What kind of deal would be in place for us to give up TK and retain part of his salary? He's got a reasonable cap hit. Any team that wants your leading scorer is probably okay with paying his full salary. You retain salary for someone like Risto.

I keep thinking that Laughton would bring a lot to a contender like COL or BOS. Bruins could use bottom 6 veteran. Not sure of their cap space or tradeable assets.

That should get you at least a decent prospect and a 1rst. I like the Av’s in that type of deal. I know they refused to part with Byram in the CG discussions if you believe Elliot Friedman… the Av’s wanted more. With their injuries and with Nichushkin in rehab along with their cup aspirations I think that’s a great target with TK if you look to move him.
- landros 2

TK is worth more than that without retaining. At 50% retain I’m asking either 2 elite prospects or 2 1sts and a decent prospect.

What kind of deal would be in place for us to give up TK and retain part of his salary? He's got a reasonable cap hit. Any team that wants your leading scorer is probably okay with paying his full salary. You retain salary for someone like Risto.

I keep thinking that Laughton would bring a lot to a contender like COL or BOS. Bruins could use bottom 6 veteran. Not sure of their cap space or tradeable assets.
- cdearth23

Every team is probably close to the cap and might not have a higher cap hit to send back to make it work. If you’re not willing to retain you’re shrinking the amount of teams available to trade with

We have to move Risto seeler walker or sanheim then York and drysdale are untouchable
- 2Real

Why do folks keep saying these things? You aren't moving Risto or Sadheim. No one wants those contracts.

Torts having Poehling led the forwards in ice time as they lose their fifth straight game is the perfect way to go into the break.

That should get you at least a decent prospect and a 1rst. I like the Av’s in that type of deal. I know they refused to part with Byram in the CG discussions if you believe Elliot Friedman… the Av’s wanted more. With their injuries and with Nichushkin in rehab along with their cup aspirations I think that’s a great target with TK if you look to move him.
- landros 2

TK is a core type player nearing his peak. It seems to me Avs tend to preserve their own and tinker around the edges and ride through medical issues. Landeskog has had 2 major absences in the last few years. Not much done to replace him. Seth Jones was rumored to land there. They avoided him. They needed physicality in their defense and they just do modest signings like Josh Manson and Johnson. Kadri has a great season and they let him go. Rjo is below expectations and all they do is sign Parise.

Same with Carolina. They really value their own prospects and picks and don't readily part with them.

EDIT: Also, iirc, VN has psychiatric issues and may well be back by playoffs anyway.

I’m not down with retaining any salary when moving someone like TK. If trading Risto, then yes, probably needing to entice the other side somewhat. When trading the best player in the trade, which I think TK would be, then no.
- Laceemup88

It’s all about what you get back. If those pieces are worth it, it’s worth it. Like any asset, you need to be open and weigh the opportunity costs.

TK is a core type player nearing his peak. It seems to me Avs tend to preserve their own and tinker around the edges and ride through medical issues. Landeskog has had 2 major absences in the last few years. Not much done to replace him. Seth Jones was rumored to land there. They avoided him. They needed physicality in their defense and they just do modest signings like Josh Manson and Johnson. Kadri has a great season and they let him go. Rjo is below expectations and all they do is sign Parise.

Same with Carolina. They really value their own prospects and picks and don't readily part with them.

EDIT: Also, iirc, VN has psychiatric issues and may well be back by playoffs anyway.
- PT21

Carolina probably should rethink their method, they haven’t gone anywhere

Now they will trade Laughts for a 3rd rounder. I mean, who really wants him right now. He's been atrocious lately. The only time you notice him is when he is taking multiple stupid penalties a game.

What kind of deal would be in place for us to give up TK and retain part of his salary? He's got a reasonable cap hit. Any team that wants your leading scorer is probably okay with paying his full salary. You retain salary for someone like Risto.

I keep thinking that Laughton would bring a lot to a contender like COL or BOS. Bruins could use bottom 6 veteran. Not sure of their cap space or tradeable assets.
- cdearth23

Disagree as the Flyers are not contenders so just ride the Risto contract out for now. Maybe in 2 years you can retain half then move him.

What kind of deal would be in place for us to give up TK and retain part of his salary? He's got a reasonable cap hit. Any team that wants your leading scorer is probably okay with paying his full salary. You retain salary for someone like Risto.

I keep thinking that Laughton would bring a lot to a contender like COL or BOS. Bruins could use bottom 6 veteran. Not sure of their cap space or tradeable assets.
- cdearth23

Retaining salary would enlarge the pool of bidders at this stage of the season. Teams that have more to offer might need that assistance to fit salary in. You might even be able to get better returns because of the $ withheld.

Carolina probably should rethink their method, they haven’t gone anywhere
- ClaudeFather

Yup

Carolina are the 3rd best regular season team over the last four seasons. Flyers are 26th.

Carolina are the 3rd best regular season team over the last four seasons. Flyers are 26th.
- Feanor

Flyers are the 3rd best regular season team of ALL-TIME (including Vegas) and that means...

What kind of deal would be in place for us to give up TK and retain part of his salary? He's got a reasonable cap hit. Any team that wants your leading scorer is probably okay with paying his full salary. You retain salary for someone like Risto.

I keep thinking that Laughton would bring a lot to a contender like COL or BOS. Bruins could use bottom 6 veteran. Not sure of their cap space or tradeable assets.
- cdearth23

If you’re trading TK, I’d say you’d have to look at teams like LA or Dallas who have some good young prospects and are looking to contend. Players I’d look at from those teams would be:

LA:
Quinton Byfield
Brandt Clarke
Alex Laferriere

DAL:
Wyatt Johnston
Logan Stankoven
Mavrik Borque

Carolina are the 3rd best regular season team over the last four seasons. Flyers are 26th.
- Feanor

Do they give out trophies for that stellar accomplishment?

If you’re trading TK, I’d say you’d have to look at teams like LA or Dallas who have some good young prospects and are looking to contend. Players I’d look at from those teams would be:

LA:
Quinton Byfield
Brandt Clarke
Alex Laferriere

DAL:
Wyatt Johnston
Logan Stankoven
Mavrik Borque
- Schmojo

LA is not trading Byfield nor Clarke...take them off the list unless it's one of the elite players in the league going to them.

Carolina are the 3rd best regular season team over the last four seasons. Flyers are 26th.
- Feanor

Congrats on all the success 😂

TK is a core type player nearing his peak. It seems to me Avs tend to preserve their own and tinker around the edges and ride through medical issues. Landeskog has had 2 major absences in the last few years. Not much done to replace him. Seth Jones was rumored to land there. They avoided him. They needed physicality in their defense and they just do modest signings like Josh Manson and Johnson. Kadri has a great season and they let him go. Rjo is below expectations and all they do is sign Parise.

Same with Carolina. They really value their own prospects and picks and don't readily part with them.

EDIT: Also, iirc, VN has psychiatric issues and may well be back by playoffs anyway.
- PT21

Both Jack Johnson and Josh Manson were acquired in trades by the Avalanche. Devin Toews, their second best defenseman was acquired in a trade. Artturi Lehkonen, one of their top minute forwards was acquired in a trade. Alexander Georgiev, their starting goalie was acquired in a trade. Kadri was originally acquired by trade.

If you look at their trade history, they have traded away plenty of picks over the years.

https://www.nhltradetrack...team/Colorado_Avalanche/1

LA is not trading Byfield nor Clarke...take them off the list unless it's one of the elite players in the league going to them.
- Glak18

Kopitar, Dubois, & Danault are all signed for at least the next 3 years. This has forced Byfield to the wing. If LA sees their window as right now before Kopitar and Doughty are done they may be willing to move one of them for TK. They’d be getting TK for next season too.

Keep in mind, Fletch got Tippett and a 1st for G when their was nobody else bidding against FLA.

Kopitar, Dubois, & Danault are all signed for at least the next 3 years. This has forced Byfield to the wing. If LA sees their window as right now before Kopitar and Doughty are done they may be willing to move one of them for TK. They’d be getting TK for next season too.

Keep in mind, Fletch got Tippett and a 1st for G when their was nobody else bidding against FLA.
- Schmojo

Byfield is 21 years old and has 8 less points than Konecny. I don't see LA trading him for Konecny.

Tippett was a player that wasn't playing full time or a significant role for Florida at the time.

LA's issue is PLD is crap.

Kopitar, Dubois, & Danault are all signed for at least the next 3 years. This has forced Byfield to the wing. If LA sees their window as right now before Kopitar and Doughty are done they may be willing to move one of them for TK. They’d be getting TK for next season too.

Keep in mind, Fletch got Tippett and a 1st for G when there was nobody else bidding against FLA.
- Schmojo

If the Flyers added say a prospect or pick with Travis would that also allow them to get a top end prospect or a top young player in return? Guess it would depend on what else is added.

Teams do strange things when they think they have a legit shot to win a cup.

And that’s a bad thing ?
- Angus4444

It is neither bad nor good. The poster wished he had better shot accuracy, but that is why he only cost $1.9 MM (or something slightly less on a team with better management) -- more accuracy more money.