Some are going to overcharge and others will greatly undercharge just because...change, but it's also Flyers/Rangers and they can not trade with each other if the deal is even. Cost is ALWAYS higher with interdivision teams, but greater if a rival.

Honestly even if the Rags gave a good deal, not great, Flyers would have to pass.
- Glak18

Yea rival definitely makes it harder to see happening. It’s a shame if that were the case, Laughton is perfect for them. Briere and Drury are friends tho I think so you never know!

Yea rival definitely makes it harder to see happening. It’s a shame if that were the case, Laughton is perfect for them. Briere and Drury are friends tho I think so you never know!
- Slimtj100

They may be friends, but they are also both mega competitive, if the deal doesn't involve something that hurts the Rags then it shouldn't happen.

Yea rival definitely makes it harder to see happening. It’s a shame if that were the case, Laughton is perfect for them. Briere and Drury are friends tho I think so you never know!
- Slimtj100

LOL yeah. For me it would have to be Perreault (and that ain't happening)to even stomach the idea. But that is what rivalries are all about.

The Briere/Drury dynamic is certainly an interesting angle though isn't it?

LOL yeah. For me it would have to be Perreault (and that ain't happening)to even stomach the idea. But that is what rivalries are all about.

The Briere/Drury dynamic is certainly an interesting angle though isn't it?
- MBFlyerfan

Perreault or Othemann

Otherwise walk away slowly

Braun? Then Lindros, but that was trading damaged goods and even though they didn't get some superstar they got a pretty good haul for him. They did get Johnsson out of that trade which was huge and even though Brendl flopped he had a lot of talent.

There is no way I want the Flyers sending anyone to the Rags if that player can help them win a cup and still have to see that player the following year. Value of a player has to be made on his abilities, not his stats. I'd rather them keep Laughton than trade him for AHL scrap AND to a rival.

Update:

Braun 2 years ago then 18 years prior
- Glak18

I wouldn't even hesitate a second to trade Laughton to the Rangers, pending the return. He will not be a difference maker for them winning a cup. He is as insignificant a they come but gets bumped up (until recently) because he is/was a Tortorella favorite. If the Flyers use that excuse, it is because they do not want to rebuild, plus they love their grinders. Their strategy seems to be - say rebuild but find a reason to never make trade. Their hand was forced with Gauthier, plus he was not yet a member of the "family", i.e. prospect. Flyers love their vet-trans.

I wouldn't even hesitate a second to trade Laughton to the Rangers, pending the return. He will not be a difference maker for them winning a cup. He is as insignificant a they come but gets bumped up (until recently) because he is/was a Tortorella favorite. If the Flyers use that excuse, it is because they do not want to rebuild, plus they love their grinders. Their strategy seems to be - say rebuild but find a reason to never make trade. Their hand was forced with Gauthier, plus he was not yet a member of the "family", i.e. prospect. Flyers love their vet-trans.
- mr4tno

What type of return would you want for Laughton in a trade?

What type of return would you want for Laughton in a trade?
- MJL

I know his season hasn't been great but I still think I can get a late 1st and maybe a prospect. Playoff teams love to acquire that type of guy for a run. And he does bring some cost certainty for 2 years. If your looking to trade for Laughton, your window is now and maybe the next couple years.

Weird you didn’t like the way they played against Dallas….Torts called it the best one of his coached teams had played in years….when you are out shooting a team 25-1, there wasn’t a lot to dislike.
- landros 2

There were NHL scouts from other teams at the Dallas game who said the Flyers played a nearly perfect game beyond the first 90 seconds of the game. It wasn't just Flyers people saying that.

If you didn't like how the Flyers were playing in THAT of all games, I'm not sure what you'd expect to see.

Perreault or Othemann

Otherwise walk away slowly
- Glak18

I don’t think they would move Perreault but Othmann had a bit of a step back last year and they don’t quite seem that high on him. They have a few other guys that might intrigue the Flyers….but if not then maybe a Matt Robertson a big solid d man with some decent puck skill….plays in the A. Add in a 2 rnd 2024 pick…falling around 55-60 and that might get it done. I think in that case there is no retention of salary.

I know his season hasn't been great but I still think I can get a late 1st and maybe a prospect. Playoff teams love to acquire that type of guy for a run. And he does bring some cost certainty for 2 years. If your looking to trade for Laughton, your window is now and maybe the next couple years.
- J35Bacher

I’m not seeing Laughton value at a 1rst….then again guys like Foligno and Chariot both got that…not exactly guys you would think.

The Flyers completely dominated the Dallas game. Hopefully yesterday's game helped you to recognize how much better Pasternak is than Konecny. Konecny is a fine player but he is not in Pasternak's class.
- MJL

Pastrnak is an elite scorer that racks up points on the PP. TK is an all around player that can hurt you 5v5, on the PP and on the PK, plus plays with a lot more heart and grit than Pastrnak. I would love Pastrnak on my team, clearly the Flyers need a player like him, but you don't win in the playoffs with a team of Pastrnaks. I still take TK if I had the choice between the two.

The timing had nothing to do with the Gauthier situation. It has everything to do with the Flyers like both players and both are in the final year of their current contract.
- MJL

The Flyers did not have to extend either play right now. Sure they like the players, no doubt. But I believe the Flyers expedited the process once Gauthier decided not to play for the Flyers. You have to think the Flyers still have Michkov out there, and he is I'm sure watching the Flyers and how things are progressing. It's good for him to see that players want to not only play here, but to commit to playing here for a long time. I am sure this played a factor.

I’m not seeing Laughton value at a 1rst….then again guys like Foligno and Chariot both got that…not exactly guys you would think.
- landros 2

I think Laughton would have retrieved a late 1st round pick this past off season, but I highly doubt it now. With the signing of Poehling, it seems clear to me Laughton will be traded at the deadline.

Weird you didn’t like the way they played against Dallas….Torts called it the best one of his coached teams had played in years….when you are out shooting a team 25-1, there wasn’t a lot to dislike.
- landros 2

I know, on paper and on the scoreboard it seems like the Flyers' best game in the past decade. But I just noticed something .. they looked slower to me, they looked out of sync, and I honestly think they got a bit lucky with 1. Dallas not showing up, 2. the penalty shot goal that I believe should have been disallowed and 3. that Tippet goal which though amazing I doubt he would have scored if he tried it 100 more times. I have played, coached and watched this game for too long, and I just saw things that bothered me. I knew this was going to be a tough stretch of games, but was hoping the Flyers would beat Ottawa and maybe get one of the other 4 games. It turned out they got Dallas and nothing else.

There were NHL scouts from other teams at the Dallas game who said the Flyers played a nearly perfect game beyond the first 90 seconds of the game. It wasn't just Flyers people saying that.

If you didn't like how the Flyers were playing in THAT of all games, I'm not sure what you'd expect to see.
- bmeltzer

What can I say Bill, it's not luck. I just know what I see and I trust my gut. Maybe I should be scouting for the Flyers, that would be a dream job. Please give me a good word or two

What type of return would you want for Laughton in a trade?
- MJL

I would take a 2nd round pick in this year's draft.

Pastrnak is an elite scorer that racks up points on the PP. TK is an all around player that can hurt you 5v5, on the PP and on the PK, plus plays with a lot more heart and grit than Pastrnak. I would love Pastrnak on my team, clearly the Flyers need a player like him, but you don't win in the playoffs with a team of Pastrnaks. I still take TK if I had the choice between the two.
- jd250

https://www.nhl.com/flyer...er/travis-konecny-8478439

https://www.nhl.com/bruin...er/david-pastrnak-8477956

Who needs players that average more than a point a game in the playoffs?

Pastrnak is an elite scorer that racks up points on the PP. TK is an all around player that can hurt you 5v5, on the PP and on the PK, plus plays with a lot more heart and grit than Pastrnak. I would love Pastrnak on my team, clearly the Flyers need a player like him, but you don't win in the playoffs with a team of Pastrnaks. I still take TK if I had the choice between the two.
- jd250

You are so ridiculously uninformed. Pasternak is 3rd in the entire NHL in EV points. Only McKinnon and Kucherov have scored more points at even strength than Pasternak has in the entire league. Did you actually watch the game? LOL. Pasternak dominated the game. Was incredibly hard on the puck in the corners and around the net. The Bruins lost their top two centers and Pasternak is still a dominating player. Konecny is not on Pasternak's level as a player and it's not close.

Not to mention Pasternak's high level of playoff production.

McKinnon, Kucherov and McDavid also don't play on the PK.

This is one of your more absurd opinions and that is saying something.

What can I say Bill, it's not luck. I just know what I see
- jd250

That has proven to be false. Every day. Amplified by this and your Pasternak comments.

I know, on paper and on the scoreboard it seems like the Flyers' best game in the past decade. But I just noticed something .. they looked slower to me, they looked out of sync, and I honestly think they got a bit lucky with 1. Dallas not showing up, 2. the penalty shot goal that I believe should have been disallowed and 3. that Tippet goal which though amazing I doubt he would have scored if he tried it 100 more times. I have played, coached and watched this game for too long, and I just saw things that bothered me. I knew this was going to be a tough stretch of games, but was hoping the Flyers would beat Ottawa and maybe get one of the other 4 games. It turned out they got Dallas and nothing else.
- jd250

It wasn't on paper, it was on the ice. The Flyers dominated the game. There was nothing to notice other than that. You made another ridiculous comment and now are trying to assign causation to that game for the current losing streak. There is no correlation.

The Flyers did not have to extend either play right now. Sure they like the players, no doubt. But I believe the Flyers expedited the process once Gauthier decided not to play for the Flyers. You have to think the Flyers still have Michkov out there, and he is I'm sure watching the Flyers and how things are progressing. It's good for him to see that players want to not only play here, but to commit to playing here for a long time. I am sure this played a factor.
- jd250

They didn't have to sign either player right now? That's the best you got? It had zero factor. Causation without correlation.

I think Laughton would have retrieved a late 1st round pick this past off season, but I highly doubt it now. With the signing of Poehling, it seems clear to me Laughton will be traded at the deadline.
- jd250

What stats did Laughton have last season that would have gotten a first for him? IMO, they maybe could have gotten a second. He is an average player.

What stats did Laughton have last season that would have gotten a first for him? IMO, they maybe could have gotten a second. He is an average player.
- WhiskeyMan

There was a story out there that a team (St. Louis?) offered a 1st for Laughton, but I don't buy that for a second.

https://www.nhl.com/flyers/player/travis-konecny-8478439

https://www.nhl.com/bruin...er/david-pastrnak-8477956

Who needs players that average more than a point a game in the playoffs?
- corduroy

I have no words

What type of return would you want for Laughton in a trade?
- MJL

what type of return would you want?

What do you do with Seeler and Walker? if a trade what do you want/expect back in return? If re-signed what kind of money and term?

Let us know what your plan is, instead of rambling all day with long paragraphs that do not address the questions.