putting in the trade call

Danault, Byfeild and Matt Roy
for
Willy, Kampf and timmons

*add picks/fringe players as required
also the cap prob doesnt work..but what evs
- senstroll

Willy is not getting traded.

Willy is not getting traded.
- Whipper

100% agree but the daily dose of "Can they trade him before his new contact kicks in" does serve as a good laugh no?



If anything the 'trade a core piece' proposals should be all about Marner right now since he is one coming off his contract the soonest. Yes JT too but nobody is taking his contact right now.....

That being I feel like we will continue to hear about how Willy needs to be traded from some until he retires or brings the cup to Toronto much like the sun will come up tomorrow am.

You're right ....it started about 5 minutes ago.
- The Law

Willy is not getting traded.
- Whipper

Well yeah, I know.

dont mess with a (non) winning formula

Willy is not getting traded.
- Whipper

This considering his new contract required the team to make his current NMC a full one for the remainder of this season as part of the deal.

Well yeah, I know.

dont mess with a (non) winning formula
- senstroll

Leafs haven't performed in the playoffs, but they've also had some bad breaks. JT concussion, Kadri, and how many of their opponents just got smokin hot at the exact right time and went all the way to the cup finals? I genuinely believe this year will be different IF Tre can address some issues with the team (Legit D and 3C).

Willy is not getting traded.
- Whipper

34, 88, 16 all finish their careers as Leafs.

https://twitter.com/ma34h...tatus/1753193757858517253

they gambled because they are rebuilding and had cap space mostly due to Carey Price career ending injury (LTIR), it payed out. I would also not be surprised to see Monahan sign with MTL this summer
- Symba007

Yup - they were in a good position to take advantage of their cap space. Good on SM for reclaiming his career as well.

Leafs haven't performed in the playoffs, but they've also had some bad breaks. JT concussion, Kadri, and how many of their opponents just got smokin hot at the exact right time and went all the way to the cup finals? I genuinely believe this year will be different IF Tre can address some issues with the team (Legit D and 3C).
- Whipper

Include several playoff OTs in which they dominated but the puck didn't go for them. They're a couple breaks going the other way from the Cup.

Leafs haven't performed in the playoffs, but they've also had some bad breaks. JT concussion, Kadri, and how many of their opponents just got smokin hot at the exact right time and went all the way to the cup finals? I genuinely believe this year will be different IF Tre can address some issues with the team (Legit D and 3C).
- Whipper

The current price appears to be a 1st rounder for both of those additions.

Hopefully some more teams drop out and become sellers making the price a little cheaper.

Tanev for example ...Lebrun said a 2nd and a prospect ..Friedman said a 1st.

Centres are moving quick. Henrique the next best? Leafs would need the Ducks to eat 50% so he's going to cost something bigger than a 3rd or whatever.

The one asset of value I could see Tree dangling is Liljegren. I like him but I'm not sure about his fit going forward. He's not a top 4 yet and he's going to price himself out of the bottom pair this summer.

Could you find a better fitting top 4 guy with term for Lilly and a 1st? Would that get you Hanifin and would he sign a new deal to stay?

Leafs haven't performed in the playoffs, but they've also had some bad breaks. JT concussion, Kadri, and how many of their opponents just got smokin hot at the exact right time and went all the way to the cup finals? I genuinely believe this year will be different IF Tre can address some issues with the team (Legit D and 3C).
- Whipper

Uh?
They won 3 straight games after jts injury, not an excuse.
Opponents getting "smoking hot", thats the excuse we are using now? Jesus. Why didnt the leafs stars get "smoking hot" during a run?

Bad breaks is a weak excuse in my opinion.

The current price appears to be a 1st rounder for both of those additions.

Hopefully some more teams drop out and become sellers making the price a little cheaper.

Tanev for example ...Lebrun said a 2nd and a prospect ..Friedman said a 1st.

Centres are moving quick. Henrique the next best? Leafs would need the Ducks to eat 50% so he's going to cost something bigger than a 3rd or whatever.

The one asset of value I could see Tree dangling is Liljegren. I like him but I'm not sure about his fit going forward. He's not a top 4 yet and he's going to price himself out of the bottom pair this summer.

Could you find a better fitting top 4 guy with term for Lilly and a 1st? Would that get you Hanifin and would he sign a new deal to stay?
- The Law

For 3C

1) Jenner
2) Lundestrom
3) Sissy
4) Laughton

Also, Saros for Byfield rumour

Over the next three years, they do not have: a 2024, 2025 or 2026 second or their 2025 1st or 2025 4th. The 2024 3rd was traded but they have the Islanders 3rd instead.

They have draft capital if they need to move it. They have asset capital if the acquisition is right.

I would rather Dubas have made the moves he did trying to win rather than do nothing at all. You're the one who keeps talking about how they're pissing away their best player ever's best years and then at the same time bemoaning that they're trading assets to try and get better.

Pick a bloody lane.
- Monkeypunk

🐎💩

I've been in the same "bloody lane" for about four (frank)ing years or more - that a core piece should have been moved. Dubas trading/wasting all those assets was just another way he tried to shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic. I OWN this lane. What the blue (frank) you on about??

34, 88, 16 all finish their careers as Leafs.

https://twitter.com/ma34h...tatus/1753193757858517253
- Snot Dillingham

hopefully they’ll suck in about 10 years so they’ll accept more cap friendly deals like our savior jumbo joke did 👍

Willy is not getting traded.
- Whipper

Nope.
We're stuck with the overpayment for 8 years.
Hopefully he gets a 100pts or more for at least the next 2-3 years.

But....

Uh?
They won 3 straight games after jts injury, not an excuse.
Opponents getting "smoking hot", thats the excuse we are using now? Jesus. Why didnt the leafs stars get "smoking hot" during a run?

Bad breaks is a weak excuse in my opinion.
- Fakepartofme

Leafs are soft and won’t win in playoffs with this core. Benoit and McCabe are the only ones that hit.

Include several playoff OTs in which they dominated but the puck didn't go for them. They're a couple breaks going the other way from the Cup.
- Zezel

Bahaha.
"Dominated" and the "puck didnt go in for them"
Bad puck...baaaad puck.

Yes, jays had the same problem....the ball didnt bounce off the bat onto the field for them.
Bad ball......baaaad ball.

Include several playoff OTs in which they dominated but the puck didn't go for them. They're a couple breaks going the other way from the Cup.
- Zezel

I got nothing here.

Actually, yes I do:

I like you, Zez, but you're like the Leafs fan version of a Trumptard.

Also trade the Leafs Phil Danault
- senstroll

AM never scores at practice ever again

Bahaha.
"Dominated" and the "puck didnt go in for them"
Bad puck...baaaad puck.

Yes, jays had the same problem....the ball didnt bounce off the bat onto the field for them.
Bad ball......baaaad ball.
- Fakepartofme

By your own admission you don’t watch the games Fake. When the rest of us were watching the playoffs last year you were watching baseball.

By your own admission you don’t watch the games Fake. When the rest of us were watching the playoffs last year you were watching baseball.
- shack67

Uh?
I watched the playoff games, everyone last year....so not sure what bs youre spewing now.

I would have missed the 3rd round as i was in Europe for 10 days. That was my only admission

But i guess, good try?

new blog everyone

Bahaha.
"Dominated" and the "puck didnt go in for them"
Bad puck...baaaad puck.

Yes, jays had the same problem....the ball didnt bounce off the bat onto the field for them.
Bad ball......baaaad ball.
- Fakepartofme

Handle the trauma how you wish, but Zez isn't wrong. The Leafs have dominated or had poor luck in a number of overtime losses. I'm not sure I'd say they were ever ready to win a cup, but they did deserve better than they received in a number of games over the past few years.

May 29, 2021 the Leafs outshoot the Montreal Canadiens 13-2 in the overtime period, but lose on a goal by Kotkaniemi - from distance, on a poorly handled puck by Travis Dermott. Of those 13 saves that Price made - at least 7 of them were better than the shot that won the game for the Habs.

May 12, 2022 the Leafs outshoot Tampa 9-5 in the overtime, including several fantastic chances against Vasilevskiy, but Tampa wins on a goal by Point when Tampa successfully crashes the net and bangs in a puck by Campbell.

Even last year against Florida in the game that eliminated them, they outplayed and outshot Florida in the overtime despite having a penalty against them (for puck over glass).

Now I have said that one of the problems with the Keefe coached Maple Leafs is that they do not have versatility in the offense. They rely on shots from their shooters but they do not do enough at the crease, in the crease or by the crease to create that chaos you sometimes need. They aren't greasy enough and it allows goalies on heaters to remain on heaters. You need more than 1 Bunting or 1 Bertuzzi or 1 Hyman on your roster to crash the crease and be a pain in the ass.

Ultimately this lack of depth and versatility played a part in those overtimes going the way they did - or even in those games where we badly outplayed the opposition and lost even reaching overtime.

Handle the trauma how you wish, but Zez isn't wrong. The Leafs have dominated or had poor luck in a number of overtime losses. I'm not sure I'd say they were ever ready to win a cup, but they did deserve better than they received in a number of games over the past few years.

May 29, 2021 the Leafs outshoot the Montreal Canadiens 13-2 in the overtime period, but lose on a goal by Kotkaniemi - from distance, on a poorly handled puck by Travis Dermott. Of those 13 saves that Price made - at least 7 of them were better than the shot that won the game for the Habs.

May 12, 2022 the Leafs outshoot Tampa 9-5 in the overtime, including several fantastic chances against Vasilevskiy, but Tampa wins on a goal by Point when Tampa successfully crashes the net and bangs in a puck by Campbell.

Even last year against Florida in the game that eliminated them, they outplayed and outshot Florida in the overtime despite having a penalty against them (for puck over glass).

Now I have said that one of the problems with the Keefe coached Maple Leafs is that they do not have versatility in the offense. They rely on shots from their shooters but they do not do enough at the crease, in the crease or by the crease to create that chaos you sometimes need. They aren't greasy enough and it allows goalies on heaters to remain on heaters. You need more than 1 Bunting or 1 Bertuzzi or 1 Hyman on your roster to crash the crease and be a pain in the ass.

Ultimately this lack of depth and versatility played a part in those overtimes going the way they did - or even in those games where we badly outplayed the opposition and lost even reaching overtime.
- Monkeypunk

The leafs outplayed their opponents in periods and a game here or there, but they didnt dominate from beginning to end....outside of that one Tampa game....which they won.
Sure, they and every single other hockey team has had bad bounces, thats hockey, thats the playoffs. But the leafs havent dominated so many games that they lost.
Just so tired of the constant excuses for this franchise.
They have a soft core that takes up half the cap, hoping they can change the results this year.
We'll see.

For 3C

1) Jenner
2) Lundestrom
3) Sissy
4) Laughton

Also, Saros for Byfield rumour
- mr.sir

Just get Jenner and (frank)ing Zadorov or Parayko already. Then the line up is pretty balanced for playoff style hockey IMHO.

Trade Brody and Robertson and other pieces as needed.

Two options for the forward group:

Knies, Matthews, Marner
JT, Jenner, Nylander
Bertuzzi, Domi, Jarnkrok
Gregor, Kampf, Holmberg/Reaves-as needed

OR

Knies, Matthews, Marner
Bertuzzi, JT, Nylander
Domi, Jenner, Jarnkrok
Gregor, Kampf, Holmberg/Reaves-as needed


The D would have great balance to:

Rielly, Zadorov/Parayko
McCabe, Lily
Beniot, Timmins or Gio, Beniot
Timmins/Gio as the 7th

Then address the G position in the summer so the Leafs can win back to back Cups.

Otherwise, 2nd round at best for the boys again this year. (if they even make it, still have a slight hint of off-the-cliff potential after the ASB)