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mr.peanut
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Feb 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
the main event.
- kicksave856

Embarrassing he didn't know that
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Feb 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
the main event.
- kicksave856


ah, wasn't expecting there would be an acronym for that lol
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Feb 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
Embarrassing he didn't know that
- mr.peanut



I was gonna use the acronym for "coked up midget" but quickly realized it might become even more awkward than wrestling lingo...
fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 3:26 PM ET
wow!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Feb 4 @ 3:29 PM ET
wow!
- fidopro



fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 3:38 PM ET

- Pat1993

OTT lead 3-0 in the 3rd. lost 4-3 in OT.
men or women.... same thing
Pat1993
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Feb 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
OTT lead 3-0 in the 3rd. lost 4-3 in OT.
men or women.... same thing

- fidopro



oh so this is a nice Sunday afternoon is what you're saying
fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 3:55 PM ET
oh so this is a nice Sunday afternoon is what you're saying
- Pat1993

sold out in OTT, sold out in BOS... good for them
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Feb 4 @ 4:00 PM ET
sold out in OTT, sold out in BOS... good for them
- fidopro


you mean the attendance at the women's games? yup, good to hear for sure.

you said the men lost though yet both Ottawa and Belleville weren't playing today, so I don't know what you're referring to.
fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
you mean the attendance at the women's games? yup, good to hear for sure.

you said the men lost though yet both Ottawa and Belleville weren't playing today, so I don't know what you're referring to.

- Pat1993

no no I meant the women team has the same issue as the men team. can't hold a lead.
fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 4:04 PM ET
you mean the attendance at the women's games? yup, good to hear for sure.

you said the men lost though yet both Ottawa and Belleville weren't playing today, so I don't know what you're referring to.

- Pat1993


and yes, many many families can't afford to bring their kids to a Habs game.
so they go watch MPP. I still don't understand why the NHL didn't see the opportunity to make a buck. no vision as usual.
mr.peanut
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Feb 4 @ 4:07 PM ET
and yes, many many families can't afford to bring their kids to a Habs game.
so they go watch MPP. I still don't understand why the NHL didn't see the opportunity to make a buck. no vision as usual.

- fidopro

Maybe wait to see the balance sheet after the season, or when they're in year 3 or 4
Pat1993
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Feb 4 @ 4:13 PM ET
and yes, many many families can't afford to bring their kids to a Habs game.
so they go watch MPP. I still don't understand why the NHL didn't see the opportunity to make a buck. no vision as usual.

- fidopro


it brings me back to what we were talking about the other day, how Buttman leaving and being replaced by a new voice/different perspective could help the league and the sport in general grow tremendously.

a lot of people keep bringing up the fact that the owners have been satisfied with Buttman and that's why he's still there, but keeping a bunch of millionaires happy doesn't automatically mean he's been doing a great job for everything else.
Pat1993
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Feb 4 @ 4:15 PM ET
Maybe wait to see the balance sheet after the season, or when they're in year 3 or 4
- mr.peanut


it's true that there could be a "novelty" factor that is artificially boosting the numbers during the league's beginnings.
mr.peanut
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Feb 4 @ 4:17 PM ET
it brings me back to what we were talking about the other day, how Buttman leaving and being replaced by a new voice/different perspective could help the league and the sport in general grow tremendously.

a lot of people keep bringing up the fact that the owners have been satisfied with Buttman and that's why he's still there, but keeping a bunch of millionaires happy doesn't automatically mean he's been doing a great job for everything else.

- Pat1993

Well, he works for the owners. It's the owner's responsibility to determine what will happen then propose it to Mr. Bettman who then will relay the message to all the owners.

If he starts proposing wacky things and pisses the owners off then he's out. There is a reason why he's over seen the insane financial growth of the league. Despite people questioning it's vision.
fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 4:17 PM ET
it's true that there could be a "novelty" factor that is artificially boosting the numbers during the league's beginnings.
- Pat1993

meh, I think they played it nicely. only 6 teams, a short calendar of what, 24 games? they should be good for the long run. the product is good, entertaining, and there's a public for it, as we can see.
mr.peanut
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Feb 4 @ 4:21 PM ET
it's true that there could be a "novelty" factor that is artificially boosting the numbers during the league's beginnings.
- Pat1993

Also, if it were NHL run, it would always be secondary for the league. They wouldn't allocate their best resources to it because the NHL is still number 1 for them. Which means they'll lose interest once the pwhl finds its equilibrium in terms of attendance, viewership and revenue.
Pat1993
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Feb 4 @ 4:23 PM ET
Well, he works for the owners. It's the owner's responsibility to determine what will happen then propose it to Mr. Bettman who then will relay the message to all the owners.

If he starts proposing wacky things and pisses the owners off then he's out. There is a reason why he's over seen the insane financial growth of the league. Despite people questioning it's vision.

- mr.peanut


yes I get that, my point is that the owners being satisfied when it comes to their own personal interests doesn't necessarily equate to seriously considering what could be done for the league and the sport's best interests.
mr.peanut
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Feb 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
yes I get that, my point is that the owners being satisfied when it comes to their own personal interests doesn't necessarily equate to seriously considering what could be done for the league and the sport's best interests.
- Pat1993

There is a team playing in Tempe Arizona, so I agree
fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 4:26 PM ET
yes I get that, my point is that the owners being satisfied when it comes to their own personal interests doesn't necessarily equate to seriously considering what could be done for the league and the sport's best interests.
- Pat1993

don't forget Pat, they are not there to grow the game, improve the sport, take care of there players health, or get little girls to play hockey.... they are there to make a buck. period. it's a business.
Pat1993
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Feb 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
Also, if it were NHL run, it would always be secondary for the league. They wouldn't allocate their best resources to it because the NHL is still number 1 for them. Which means they'll lose interest once the pwhl finds its equilibrium in terms of attendance, viewership and revenue.
- mr.peanut


with how things are currently ran, yes I believe you are right, it would've required different people at the helm so that things could be optimal for the women's league.
Pat1993
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Feb 4 @ 4:29 PM ET
don't forget Pat, they are not there to grow the game, improve the sport, take care of there players health, or get little girls to play hockey.... they are there to make a buck. period. it's a business.
- fidopro


*sigh*



but helping the sport grow and attract more fans would logically help make that buck, no?

anyway lol.
Pat1993
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Feb 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
There is a team playing in Tempe Arizona, so I agree
- mr.peanut


every time I hear about that team it pisses me off loll.
mr.peanut
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Feb 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
*sigh*



but helping the sport grow and attract more fans would logically help make that buck, no?

anyway lol.

- Pat1993

Growing hockey really just comes down to affordability in youth hockey. People tend to care less about sports they haven't, or will never, play.

It's amazing how much needs to be spent just to be ready to play
fidopro
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Feb 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
*sigh*



but helping the sport grow and attract more fans would logically help make that buck, no?

anyway lol.

- Pat1993


totally agreed, that's why they stick in Arizona. but they didn't see it the same way for women hockey. it would have cost them peanuts compared to the current owner... oh well
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