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Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 5 @ 6:00 PM ET
The thing about preemptive is you don't know if they'll ever be charged
- mr.peanut


They knew they were suspects and chose to sign them.

If a team knew they were suspects in an armed robbery or a murder, you think it's OK to sign them too, just because they have not been officially changed?

But hey, it is the NHL, so I would not be surprised if a team actually did sign them.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 5 @ 6:01 PM ET
What's amusing is you're 3 posts away from wanting the league to fold because they didn't suspend them back in 2018

Nothing they did, or have been accused of doing, is amusing

- mr.peanut


No, I am saying those team should not get cap relief.

That is all.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:03 PM ET
They knew they were suspects and chose to sign them.

If a team knew they were suspects in an armed robbery or a murder, you think it's OK to sign them too, just because they have not been officially changed?

But hey, it is the NHL, so I would not be surprised if a team actually did sign them.

- Mashadar

You can be accused of a lot, the teams seemed to have done the work based on the info available at the time.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 5 @ 6:05 PM ET
They knew they were suspects and chose to sign them.

If a team knew they were suspects in an armed robbery or a murder, you think it's OK to sign them too, just because they have not been officially changed?

But hey, it is the NHL, so I would not be surprised if a team actually did sign them.

- Mashadar


You have no idea what they knew or not, but I know you dont care about that either
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 5 @ 6:05 PM ET
You can be accused of a lot, the teams seemed to have done the work based on the info available at the time.
- mr.peanut


the teams did what was in their own best interest, at the time.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:07 PM ET
the teams did what was in their own best interest, at the time.
- Mashadar

Teams tend to do that. I'll assume, much like you have been doing, if the teams had enough credible information at the time they would not have signed those players.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 5 @ 6:07 PM ET
You have no idea what they knew or not, but I know you dont care about that either
- deadpoulet


The NHL knew who was at risk, the NHL surely shared that information with the team.

Teams decided to act in their own self interest.

As such, why should they get cap relief?

mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:08 PM ET
You have no idea what they knew or not, but I know you dont care about that either
- deadpoulet

If EK can have 32 inside team sources...
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 5 @ 6:10 PM ET
Teams tend to do that. I'll assume, much like you have been doing, if the teams had enough credible information at the time they would not have signed those players.
- mr.peanut


Team knew players from that team were in trouble, any level of due diligence would have revealed who was at risk.

So either team chose to ignore the risk or chose not to look into it.

Still don't think they deserve cap relief, which is my original point.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:14 PM ET
Team knew players from that team were in trouble, any level of due diligence would have revealed who was at risk.

So either team chose to ignore the risk or chose not to look into it.

Still don't think they deserve cap relief, which is my original point.

- Mashadar

Which is fine, but it then implies the teams knew much more than what is let on, which i'd like proof of. Team Canada didn't disclose much, the police did a poor investigation and the plauers were hiding the facts. 3 major factors which limit the access of info
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 5 @ 6:24 PM ET
Which is fine, but it then implies the teams knew much more than what is let on, which i'd like proof of. Team Canada didn't disclose much, the police did a poor investigation and the plauers were hiding the facts. 3 major factors which limit the access of info
- mr.peanut


Whatever.

They knew there was a risk w/ anyone on that team. Everyone knew there was, not only NHL teams. They signed those players, knowing problems could arise down the line.

Either they chose to be ignorant or act in their own self interest.

All I am saying is they do not deserve cap relief.

That simple.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Feb 5 @ 6:47 PM ET
Didn't realize it's Beanpot tournament time already

Boston University vs. Boston College tonight
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 5 @ 7:13 PM ET
Didn't realize it's Beanpot tournament time already

Boston University vs. Boston College tonight

- stinger67

who won? never mind. its the 2nd game.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Feb 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
Didn't realize it's Beanpot tournament time already

Boston University vs. Boston College tonight

- stinger67


Didn’t realize there’s a tourney called Beanpot.

But yes, time does fly..
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 5 @ 7:54 PM ET
Didn’t realize there’s a tourney called Beanpot.

But yes, time does fly..

- pete26

hello
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Feb 5 @ 7:55 PM ET
Whatever.

They knew there was a risk w/ anyone on that team. Everyone knew there was, not only NHL teams. They signed those players, knowing problems could arise down the line.

Either they chose to be ignorant or act in their own self interest.

All I am saying is they do not deserve cap relief.

That simple.

- Mashadar


So you’re thinking the NHL knew about the incident back in 2018?

Interesting..
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Feb 5 @ 7:55 PM ET
hello
- mr.peanut


Hello Paul, what’s up?
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 5 @ 8:00 PM ET
Hello Paul, what’s up?
- pete26

Not much. Tired, I guess


You?
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
Not much. Tired, I guess


You?

- mr.peanut


I’m kinda tired too.

Of people mostly, my office was like a bus depot today..
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 5 @ 8:31 PM ET
I’m kinda tired too.

Of people mostly, my office was like a bus depot today..

- pete26

Oh same. needy, unprepared, always (frank)ing up, don't listen.


And that's just co-workers
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 5 @ 8:51 PM ET
Didn’t realize there’s a tourney called Beanpot.

But yes, time does fly..

- pete26

been going on for years. its the 4 schools in the boston area.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 5 @ 9:02 PM ET
so Pearson will get a try on the PP, a month before tdl.


lol
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 5 @ 9:14 PM ET
so Pearson will get a try on the PP, a month before tdl.


lol

- fidopro


Was Gallagher on the pp? Monahan had to be

why not
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Feb 5 @ 9:16 PM ET
been going on for years. its the 4 schools in the boston area.
- Gramps28



Sounds like a baked bean cook off..
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 5 @ 9:19 PM ET
Drew McIntyre will save WM
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