RP with over 18 minutes is a disgrace. Don't fall in love with players the coach/Co-GM has said. Team struggles to score. Calling up Ollie also a farce, why even bother?

Death stare scotty under 12 and GH under 8
- hello it's me 2050

True but I trust Poehling more than Laughton to do anything offensively. It's not saying much but Scotty is irrelevant and has about zero impact on the game.

Yeah. Once again Buffalo looks like a group of bozos.
- mickel25

It’s nice to not be at the top of that list for the Flyers anymore. Thus far, while it’s still a project in motion, theres some stability and credibility back with the Orange and black.

Flyers are no longer in the same conversation with dysfunctional organizations like Buffalo, Columbus, and Arizona.

True but I trust Poehling more than Laughton to do anything offensively. It's not saying much but Scotty is irrelevant and has about zero impact on the game.
- Pelle31Forever

I understand that Laughton has not had a great season offensively but what has Poehling done offensively in his career? He has a career high 17 points in the NHL. Scott Laughton has been a big part of the Flyers PK which is a big reason for the Flyers improvement this season.

I understand that Laughton has not had a great season offensively but what has Poehling done offensively in his career? He has a career high 17 points in the NHL. Scott Laughton has been a big part of the Flyers PK which is a big reason for the Flyers improvement this season.
- MJL

I would argue Poehling has been a better penalty killer than Laughton this year.

Actually it's you that doesn't understand it and has been indoctrinated and brainwashed into you thinking it's about culture and a standard. The Flyers have been spewing the nonsense of a "standard" and other buzzwords forever without actually winning anything. You're their target and how they're marketing to snag you. I despise tanking personally but tanking has resulted in far more championships than the nonsense that you buy into.

Maybe one day you'll actually understand what built the "cultures" in Chicago, Pittsburgh and LA for example.
- MJL

For every example you give me where tanking worked, I can give you 2 examples where it has been a disaster. I actually don't despise tanking if its done at the right time. For example, tanking for last year's draft made total sense. Tanking for this year's draft would not make sense. But regardless, if your organization continues to try to tank year after year, its extremely difficult to get out of it, and that is what is happening in Buffalo. They have a ton of talent, but a losing culture and they have lost their fan base.

For every example you give me where tanking worked, I can give you 2 examples where it has been a disaster. I actually don't despise tanking if its done at the right time. For example, tanking for last year's draft made total sense. Tanking for this year's draft would not make sense. But regardless, if your organization continues to try to tank year after year, its extremely difficult to get out of it, and that is what is happening in Buffalo. They have a ton of talent, but a losing culture and they have lost their fan base.
- jd250

Now put yourself in context and document how developing a "standard" has resulted in working more than tanking has. In my opinion, Buffalo is still in a better spot for the future than the Flyers are.

I would argue Poehling has been a better penalty killer than Laughton this year.
- jd250

That was not the context.

I understand that Laughton has not had a great season offensively but what has Poehling done offensively in his career? He has a career high 17 points in the NHL. Scott Laughton has been a big part of the Flyers PK which is a big reason for the Flyers improvement this season.
- MJL

Laughton in the 2020 playoffs where the Flyers lost to the Islanders in the 2nd round was playing some of his best offensive hockey of his career. I remember some nice touch with the puck for 5-hole dekes and some snipes as well.

I understand that Laughton has not had a great season offensively but what has Poehling done offensively in his career? He has a career high 17 points in the NHL. Scott Laughton has been a big part of the Flyers PK which is a big reason for the Flyers improvement this season.
- MJL

It is true that Laughton is a big part of the PK, but he is a big reason the Flyers are on the PK so much. He is 5th on the team in PIM. If you remove the goon line, ND and Hathaway he is 3rd only behind TK and Seeler.

Every game I am waiting for Laughton to take a dumb penalty.


RP has 6 PIM

I would argue Poehling has been a better penalty killer than Laughton this year.
- jd250

Are you still arguing that Farabee is a 3rd liner?

For every example you give me where tanking worked, I can give you 2 examples where it has been a disaster. I actually don't despise tanking if its done at the right time. For example, tanking for last year's draft made total sense. Tanking for this year's draft would not make sense. But regardless, if your organization continues to try to tank year after year, its extremely difficult to get out of it, and that is what is happening in Buffalo. They have a ton of talent, but a losing culture and they have lost their fan base.
- jd250

flyers also have a losing culture. Look at their core, losing is all they know.

not hard to get out of if you have good management.

It is true that Laughton is a big part of the PK, but he is a big reason the Flyers are on the PK so much. He is 5th on the team in PIM. If you remove the goon line, ND and Hathaway he is 3rd only behind TK and Seeler.

Every game I am waiting for Laughton to take a dumb penalty.

RP has 6 PIM
- WhiskeyMan

I am surprised Laughton has fallen off so hard at age 29 considering he's always been a good skater. If he's not carrying an injury that needs months off to fully recover, then the last two years of his deal will be rough.

True but I trust Poehling more than Laughton to do anything offensively. It's not saying much but Scotty is irrelevant and has about zero impact on the game.
- Pelle31Forever

What happened to Laughts between last year and this year?

Are you still arguing that Farabee is a 3rd liner?
- Feanor

I posted Farabee is an OK forward with OK skill .. and I still believe that is the case. He is having a good year, and I'm happy for him and the team, but my opinion of him has not changed.

flyers also have a losing culture. Look at their core, losing is all they know.

not hard to get out of if you have good management.
- hello it's me 2050

There is a difference between a tanking culture and what the Flyers have been. The Flyers had a few lean years from 2020-2022, but they have never had a tanking culture, they always have tried to win.

There is a difference between a tanking culture and what the Flyers have been. The Flyers had a few lean years from 2020-2022, but they have never had a tanking culture, they always have tried to win.
- jd250

the flyers way is a losing way. Dem the facts.

the path they are on now will continue those ways, until proven otherwise.

Buffalo has bad ownership and bad management. Why don't you ever mention that? that is why they suck and will continue to suck. Though as Cliff said would gladly trade their roster, players under contract, and picks/prospects for the flyers players in the same category.

I posted Farabee is an OK forward with OK skill .. and I still believe that is the case. He is having a good year, and I'm happy for him and the team, but my opinion of him has not changed.
- jd250

LMAO. Earlier this season, you posted that you had doubts that Farabee would be a regular NHL player. Now here you are doubling down and saying you still think that he is an OK forward with OK skill while he is showing that he is one of the better LW in the NHL. All you're doing is cementing the FACT that you have zero ability to accurately assess anything in the sport of hockey.

There is a difference between a tanking culture and what the Flyers have been. The Flyers had a few lean years from 2020-2022, but they have never had a tanking culture, they always have tried to win.
- jd250

What has the Flyers "culture" resulted in?

Fun update. Apologies if someone already linked it.

https://www.phillyvoice.c...-bobby-brink-ahl-ohl/amp/

the flyers way is a losing way. Dem the facts.

the path they are on now will continue those ways, until proven otherwise.

Buffalo has bad ownership and bad management. Why don't you ever mention that? that is why they suck and will continue to suck. Though as Cliff said would gladly trade their roster, players under contract, and picks/prospects for the flyers players in the same category.
- hello it's me 2050

There is a difference between trying to win and making bad decisions. The Flyers have always had a philosophy of trying to build a winner, but because of poor decisions, and frankly bad luck, they are still a ways away. Surely Dave Scott was not a good leader, and Hextall and Fletcher were not good GMs. So far this leadership group seems to be much better.

That backhand saucer to Konecny was sick.
- Minnyhock

My only critique is that he stopped moving his feet and Farabee watched his pass and the goal completely standing still. That drives coaches crazy (even in junior hockey).

There is a difference between trying to win and making bad decisions. The Flyers have always had a philosophy of trying to build a winner, but because of poor decisions, and frankly bad luck, they are still a ways away. Surely Dave Scott was not a good leader, and Hextall and Fletcher were not good GMs. So far this leadership group seems to be much better.
- jd250

The Flyers philosophy of always trying to win have been colossally and epically bad decisions. Is there a difference between bad and poor decisions?

What has the Flyers "culture" resulted in?
- MJL

There is a difference between wanting to develop a winning culture and poor execution. Mr. Snider had one goal and one expectation, to win the Cup. This permeated throughout the organization for decades. The Flyers had chances to win and couldn't cross the finish line, but until his death, the Flyers were always in the conversation. Once Dave Scott took over, things changed for the worse. Poor decisions, poor execution, sprinkle in some bad luck and things really went downhill, but the underlying culture or desire to win was still there. Having a culture that expects to win and compete for a cup does not guarantee a cup but it does engage the fan base and support an environment that players want to be a part of, as we saw for decades before Scott took over.

There is a difference between trying to win and making bad decisions. The Flyers have always had a philosophy of trying to build a winner, but because of poor decisions, and frankly bad luck, they are still a ways away. Surely Dave Scott was not a good leader, and Hextall and Fletcher were not good GMs. So far this leadership group seems to be much better.
- jd250

You said the moves that chuckles made turned the Flyers into Cup contenders

There is a difference between trying to win and making bad decisions. The Flyers have always had a philosophy of trying to build a winner, but because of poor decisions, and frankly bad luck, they are still a ways away. Surely Dave Scott was not a good leader, and Hextall and Fletcher were not good GMs. So far this leadership group seems to be much better.
- jd250

this "leadership" hasnt shown me much. Only thing they did that was beyond the norm was drafting MM.