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Laceemup88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.26.2018

Feb 7 @ 8:50 PM ET
Tampa just lost Sergachev with a very bad knee injury. Had to be carted off. Skate got caught and his knee bent back. Looked bad. Walker’s stock might have just went up.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Feb 7 @ 8:56 PM ET
He won't win it even if they do make the playoffs.
- MJL


He doesn’t need to make the playoffs, but if the Flyers stay in this current trajectory they will have improved from Torts’ first season…that’s a fact. It does seem like sometimes when someone points that out to refute your statements that he’s doing a poor job, then you pivot to focusing on the fact they aren’t close to winning a cup, or that he won’t win the Jack Adam’s.

You know enough hockey to know any type of turnaround (call it a rebuild or whatever) takes time. Torts wasn’t here 10 years ago…or 5 years ago. Dude has improved this team. He can’t (or is responsible for) make them a contender overnight.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Feb 7 @ 8:57 PM ET
Tampa just lost Sergachev with a very bad knee injury. Had to be carted off. Skate got caught and his knee bent back. Looked bad. Walker’s stock might have just went up.
- Laceemup88


He plays the left side but I’m not sure how much that matters? I’m sure they are looking for help now!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
You don't know that! It's that simple. Lots of people like Torts despite the fact that you despise him.
- Phillywhiteout


This is what makes you so full of poop. You can make statements like "If Torts gets the Flyers in the playoffs without the services of Caaaaatah Haaaaat he will certainly be in the top 3" and "I don't think the Flyers are making the playoffs," which are obviously your opinion and then when I give my opinion. You reply back with "you don't know that. It's that simple" You can offer your opinion but when I do, it's that nonsense. As if lots of people liking him will determine if he wins the Jack Adams or not. I don't despise him. You're hysterical.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:09 PM ET
He doesn’t need to make the playoffs, but if the Flyers stay in this current trajectory they will have improved from Torts’ first season…that’s a fact. It does seem like sometimes when someone points that out to refute your statements that he’s doing a poor job, then you pivot to focusing on the fact they aren’t close to winning a cup, or that he won’t win the Jack Adam’s.


- Wingdestroyer


You're wrong on a number of levels. I haven't stated that Tortorella is doing a poor job. He has obviously improved the team. What I have stated is that he is not the right coach for young player development. That his style of play and systems will not result in long term progression and the team reaching legitimate cup contention. That his obvious influence over this franchise will in the long run, set them back. My benchmark is more than just making the playoffs. Flyers have done plenty of that in my time as a Flyers fan. I also don't bring up the Jack Adam's. Others do that, I just respond to that. You need to be accurate.



You know enough hockey to know any type of turnaround (call it a rebuild or whatever) takes time. Torts wasn’t here 10 years ago…or 5 years ago. Dude has improved this team. He can’t (or is responsible for) make them a contender overnight.

- Wingdestroyer


Not my expectation. Nor have I said that. I'm the guy who has routinely posted that a true rebuild will take 5 years or longer. Many have objected to that reality. What are you talking about?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:10 PM ET
Tampa just lost Sergachev with a very bad knee injury. Had to be carted off. Skate got caught and his knee bent back. Looked bad. Walker’s stock might have just went up.
- Laceemup88


Really? This was his first game back. What a shame.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM ET
He plays the left side but I’m not sure how much that matters? I’m sure they are looking for help now!
- Wingdestroyer

uncle ivan to the bolts or......switch myers to the left side
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
You're wrong on a number of levels. I haven't stated that Tortorella is doing a poor job. He has obviously improved the team. What I have stated is that he is not the right coach for young player development. That his style of play and systems will not result in long term progression and the team reaching legitimate cup contention. That his obvious influence over this franchise will in the long run, set them back. My benchmark is more than just making the playoffs. Flyers have done plenty of that in my time as a Flyers fan. I also don't bring up the Jack Adam's. Others do that, I just respond to that. You need to be accurate.




Not my expectation. Nor have I said that. I'm the guy who has routinely posted that a true rebuild will take 5 years or longer. Many have objected to that reality. What are you talking about?

- MJL


Ok
Laceemup88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.26.2018

Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
Really? This was his first game back. What a shame.
- MJL


Yeah, said he had missed the last 17 games. Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looked.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
This is what makes you so full of poop. You can make statements like "If Torts gets the Flyers in the playoffs without the services of Caaaaatah Haaaaat he will certainly be in the top 3" and "I don't think the Flyers are making the playoffs," which are obviously your opinion and then when I give my opinion. You reply back with "you don't know that. It's that simple" You can offer your opinion but when I do, it's that nonsense. As if lots of people liking him will determine if he wins the Jack Adams or not. I don't despise him. You're hysterical.
- MJL
Wrong again genius! You definitively say he WILL NOT win the Jack Adams award. I said that I don't THINK they will make the playoffs. You can't see the difference in those comments? Do you have basic grasp of the English language? Oh, and if they make the playoffs he will be in the top 3 of nominees and that isn't an opinion. You can take that to the bank cause that's a fact Jack!
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
uncle ivan to the bolts or......switch myers to the left side
- hello it's me 2050


Provy is definitely going there and winning a cup….UGH

For real tho, it’s gonna be tough for Tampa to get anyone high level. They don’t have many assets
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
Yeah, said he had missed the last 17 games. Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looked.
- Laceemup88
I didn't see what happened. Just turned it on when he was being carted off the ice in tears. That sucks. Don't wish that on anyone.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:19 PM ET
claims to be young? how so blood? please elaborate.
- hello it's me 2050


You’ve stated numerous times that you’re retired and you don’t have to be old to retire. That statement is true except, you are old…
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 9:20 PM ET
Provy is definitely going there and winning a cup….UGH

For real tho, it’s gonna be tough for Tampa to get anyone high level. They don’t have many assets

- Wingdestroyer

they may have to just ride it out and regroup over the summer. Though their GM seems to find someone every year.

Ivan would fit in at Tampa if Columbus was just looking to "dump" him.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 9:21 PM ET
You’ve stated numerous times that you’re retired and you don’t have to be old to retired. That statement is true except, you are old…
- roenick97

fiddy free isnt old. also been retired for several years now. u dig?

This is why you are lamont. A big dummy. u feel me blood?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:25 PM ET
Wrong again genius! You definitively say he WILL NOT win the Jack Adams award. I said that I don't THINK they will make the playoffs. You can't see the difference in those comments? Do you have basic grasp of the English language? Oh, and if they make the playoffs he will be in the top 3 of nominees and that isn't an opinion. You can take that to the bank cause that's a fact Jack!
- Phillywhiteout


LOL the simplest things have to be explained to you. When I make that statement, I'm offering my opinion. Unless you think that I'm clairvoyant and have super powers to see into the future. I also have to explain what a fact is apparently. Your last statement is most certainly not a fact simply because it hasn't happened yet. Like I said earlier, you're a walking contradiction. You accuse me of something which is false, and then turn around and do the very thing you're trying to accuse me of. Thanks for the entertainment.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:27 PM ET
fiddy free isnt old. also been retired for several years now. u dig?

This is why you are lamont. A big dummy. u feel me blood?

- hello it's me 2050

You’re a lot older than me. You pathetically act younger than me but you’re old.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 9:30 PM ET
You’re a lot older than me. You pathetically act younger than me but you’re old.
- roenick97

how is one supposed to act? cant wait to hear this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN6MxLYB8hM
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:33 PM ET
how is one supposed to act? cant wait to hear this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN6MxLYB8hM

- hello it's me 2050

It starts with maturity and self awareness, which you have neither. You’re pretty openly racist but don’t like being called racist and somehow deny it.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 9:35 PM ET
It starts with maturity and self awareness, which you have neither. You’re pretty openly racist but don’t like being called racist and somehow deny it.
- roenick97

whoa is me, says the guy who is half white.

racist smacist
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM ET
whoa is me, says the guy who is half white.

racist smacist

- hello it's me 2050

I’m a quarter white. Why would this matter to you? For a guy who lives such a rich and eventful life, you sure pay a lot of attention to a faceless stranger on the internet. Almost predatorial.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM ET
I’m a quarter white. Why would this matter to you? For a guy who lives such a rich and eventful life, you sure pay a lot of attention to a faceless stranger on the internet. Almost predatorial.
- roenick97

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1w85qMqIjs
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1w85qMqIjs
- hello it's me 2050

Grandpa, it’s very rare I open any of your links. A guy who claims to be so witty, shouldn’t have to use music or famous people’s words to speak for him.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 9:43 PM ET
Grandpa, it’s very rare I open any of your links. A guy who claims to be so witty, shouldn’t have to use music or famous people’s words to speak for him.
- roenick97

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvzIRuIg288

you open every one. now go to confession.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM ET
LOL the simplest things have to be explained to you. When I make that statement, I'm offering my opinion. Unless you think that I'm clairvoyant and have super powers to see into the future. I also have to explain what a fact is apparently. Your last statement is most certainly not a fact simply because it hasn't happened yet. Like I said earlier, you're a walking contradiction. You accuse me of something which is false, and then turn around and do the very thing you're trying to accuse me of. Thanks for the entertainment.
- MJL
Eh what? That's all I got at this point.
Oh, money where your mouth is? Wanna bet? If Torts gets them into the dance he will get a top 3 nomination. I'll be glad to take your money!
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