Look, who is say the Flyers don't get lucky in the draft? They are bit overdue for luck aren't they? And who is to say Michkov will be elite? The Flyers got Tippet from Florida because Fletcher insisted they throw in a young player to save face, and look what we got! Carolina drafted Aho in the 2nd Round. Tampa drafted Kucherov in the 2nd round and Point in the 3rd round. The Flyers can do both here, sign players they think are part of the solution, like Tippet, like TK, while also trading other players for draft capital for chances to get lucky in the draft. Then its up to the Flyers to draft the right players and develop them.
- jd250

Yep, let's get lucky in the draft. How has that been working out so far? Another waffle. Screaming from the hills that they need top 5 picks forever to now let's get lucky in the draft. The other players they're trading are not going to get the assets that Konecny can.

The Flyers handled it well I think. But yeah hopefully Cutter's opinion of the Flyers is not the prevailing opinion throughout the league.
- mickel25

I think that is why Briere expedited the Tippet and Poehling signings, to cut off any concerns that Cutter was more than just an isolated player decision.

BTW, I plan on meeting Hunter MacDonald later this month at a player alumni meet and greet at Northeastern. I am going to ask him straight out if he wants to play for the Flyers.

Look, who is say the Flyers don't get lucky in the draft? They are bit overdue for luck aren't they? And who is to say Michkov will be elite? The Flyers got Tippet from Florida because Fletcher insisted they throw in a young player to save face, and look what we got! Carolina drafted Aho in the 2nd Round. Tampa drafted Kucherov in the 2nd round and Point in the 3rd round. The Flyers can do both here, sign players they think are part of the solution, like Tippet, like TK, while also trading other players for draft capital for chances to get lucky in the draft. Then its up to the Flyers to draft the right players and develop them.
- jd250

flyers have not shown that ability to draft/develop that type of player.

One team I am always amazed by is Boston. They never really go into a rebuild, at least I can’t think of one since like 2000. They lose chara. Np. Lose bergy, Tuuka krejci. Don’t miss a beat. Draft later due to continuous success and more importantly develop players properly. Ullmark. Average goalie with Buffalo becomes incredible. I haven’t been able to fully figure it out but it’s incredible. They draft so smartly and find a guy like pasta who many teams passed on. Shows that you don’t need to do a full tear down rebuild to have a contender. Amass picks and hope you hit on them.
- Hextall271

This is all true, but you have to have good, forward-thinking management. Can we say that about the Flyer leadership. Bad organizations need to pick as high as possible and even then it still is not a slam dunk.

I think that is why Briere expedited the Tippet and Poehling signings, to cut off any concerns that Cutter was more than just an isolated player decision.

BTW, I plan on meeting Hunter MacDonald later this month at a player alumni meet and greet at Northeastern. I am going to ask him straight out if he wants to play for the Flyers.
- jd250

let us know what he says, cant wait.

flyers have not shown that ability to draft/develop that type of player.
- hello it's me 2050

Flahr has shown he is a very good drafter. the problem is the Flyers under Fletcher traded away their 2nd and 3rd round picks.

The Flyers handled it well I think. But yeah hopefully Cutter's opinion of the Flyers is not the prevailing opinion throughout the league.
- mickel25

I haven’t been that impressed by drysdale so far but I’ll give it time. He’s been ok but I guess I expected more.

I seriously thought they blew it when they had those 3 first round picks in a row and Picked Zboril, DeBrusk and Senyshyn at 13, 14, and 15. I thought there was no way they could recover from that debacle. But they just kept plugging away.
- MBFlyerfan

… and they keep winning/ contending. I mean, you could say not contending because they haven’t been in the cup final since 2019 but to me, they’re always in the conversation.

This is all true, but you have to have good, forward-thinking management. Can we say that about the Flyer leadership. Bad organizations need to pick as high as possible and even then it still is not a slam dunk.
- mr4tno

It’s likely that as you mention. I think we have had it, but not always. The fletch era was sheer stupidity.

Flahr has shown he is a very good drafter. the problem is the Flyers under Fletcher traded away their 2nd and 3rd round picks.
- jd250

he has? how so?

I think that is why Briere expedited the Tippet and Poehling signings, to cut off any concerns that Cutter was more than just an isolated player decision.

BTW, I plan on meeting Hunter MacDonald later this month at a player alumni meet and greet at Northeastern. I am going to ask him straight out if he wants to play for the Flyers.
- jd250

The Tippet and Poehling re-signings weren't expedited. They were signed in a typical time frame of when a lot of players are re-signed. The Gauthier situation had zero to do with it.

I am not going back and forth with you any longer about your stupid accusations. If you want that banter, go have it with Phillywhiteout when he gets back.
- jd250

Not accusations, just facts. It's in the public record. You didn't think it through before you acted emotionally like a child. Then began to slowly change your position when confronted. Just like you always do.

Why were you OK with the Coots deal and not with locking TK in for 8 years? It's funny I didn't like the Coots deal, but am having a tough time with deciding where I stand with TK.
- Dkos

For the reasons that I have mentioned numerous times. Couturier plays a far more important position as a center than a winger. The Flyers have little depth at center. It was protection for the Flyers younger players and to aid in the development of their young wingers. If Couturier wasn't re-signed, then a player like Frost would've had to be elevated to playing a 1C role. It would've crushed the Flyers development support. For the record, I have also stated that anyone who thought that they should've traded Couturier, wasn't wrong. That had merit.

Couts is here for the long haul I'm afraid. He is clearly not the player he was before the injury, I think we have enough of a sample size to see that now. He still has value to the Flyers in a lesser role, but that contract will not age well I'm afraid.
- jd250

He's not that far away from where he was before the injury. Still a really good player.

He's not that far away from where he was before the injury. Still a really good player.
- MJL

dont agree and yes he is still a good player.

I haven’t been that impressed by drysdale so far but I’ll give it time. He’s been ok but I guess I expected more.
- Hextall271

I was going to ask what we thought of him. He was noticeable his first couple of games with the Flyers, but since then I haven't noticed him much. Was hoping he would be making a bigger impact that he has so far. Now, its early still, maybe he is still learning the system and taking coaching, so maybe we won't see his impact more until next season.

I keep expecting the pens to click and rattle
Off a ton of wins but it just doesn’t seem like the chemistry is there. They’ll add at the deadline but my god, they must not have any picks or prospects left in the system after years of doing this.
- Hextall271

Can confirm they do not

Not accusations, just facts. It's in the public record. You didn't think it through before you acted emotionally like a child. Then began to slowly change your position when confronted. Just like you always do.
- MJL

you should re-read your post. do you think this is how adults act?

these "gotcha" moments on an internet forum... does it release endorphins for you? don't you see how childish that is?

I was going to ask what we thought of him. He was noticeable his first couple of games with the Flyers, but since then I haven't noticed him much. Was hoping he would be making a bigger impact that he has so far. Now, its early still, maybe he is still learning the system and taking coaching, so maybe we won't see his impact more until next season.
- jd250

i think once he's had an offseason/training camp here and we figure what the hell our 6-man D group will look like I think he'll be good. dude was still sleeping on a couch in an empty home not that long ago

i think once he's had an offseason/training camp here and we figure what the hell our 6-man D group will look like I think he'll be good. dude was still sleeping on a couch in an empty home not that long ago
- anti-lame

I agree it would be good to have 6 D and a steady defensive partner to build some chemistry with. I sincerely hope the Flyers move at least 2 D this deadline.

I agree it would be good to have 6 D and a steady defensive partner to build some chemistry with. I sincerely hope the Flyers move at least 2 D this deadline.
- jd250

torts is trend setter rolling with 7 d for an extended period of time.

Honestly, the window is not 10 years and if it took 10 years Hilferty on down should be fired. The Flyers should be able to get back to prominence within 3-5 years. They have some good players on this team, good players in their system and a lot of draft capital (especially after this deadline). With smart moves they should be legitimately competing sooner than later, especially IF and when Michkov comes over.
- jd250

So 5 years from now we will have Michkov for 2 years...TK will be mid 30's (34) do we really want that? Tk in his mid 30's when MM is here and enterering his prime?

That's the thing to me...also..is TK really someone you build around? In Boston, Colorado, Tampa, NYR, Vegas, TK is middle 6 , not top 6. He would be a complimentary player, not a core player...like Giroux was in Florida. I don't want 8 years at 8 per tied up in that. If he were a Stone, Eichel, Rantanen, Panarin, etc..ok...different story, but I just don't think TK is on their level of play.

The return for TK could be big enough, it could take a year off the rebuild with the right return. But signing him to me is a mistake, and we will all be moaning about it in a few years.

Why were you OK with the Coots deal and not with locking TK in for 8 years? It's funny I didn't like the Coots deal, but am having a tough time with deciding where I stand with TK.
- Dkos

It's hard to justify a supposedly rebuilding team locking up two RWs in their mid/late 20s for 8 years each at $6.2m and ~$9.2m. Especially when they claim to be building from the defense out and thru the middle.

A couple of months ago we were still being fed the narrative that Cutter Gauthier was going to be their top 6 center of the future.

So 5 years from now we will have Michkov for 2 years...TK will be mid 30's (34) do we really want that? Tk in his mid 30's when MM is here and enterering his prime?

That's the thing to me...also..is TK really someone you build around? In Boston, Colorado, Tampa, NYR, Vegas, TK is middle 6 , not top 6. He would be a complimentary player, not a core player...like Giroux was in Florida. I don't want 8 years at 8 per tied up in that. If he were a Stone, Eichel, Rantanen, Panarin, etc..ok...different story, but I just don't think TK is on their level of play.

The return for TK could be big enough, it could take a year off the rebuild with the right return. But signing him to me is a mistake, and we will all be moaning about it in a few years.
- TheFreak

He labeled Konecny the face of the Flyers franchise. Below are players who are legit face of the franchise players. See how Konecny compares.


Nathan McKinnon
Nikita Kucherov
Sidney Crosby
Alex Ovechkin
Auston Matthews
David Pasternak
Connor McDavid

Then for the Flyers, Travis Konecny. LOL. No knock on Konecny as a player but he just isn't there.

He labeled Konecny the face of the Flyers franchise. Below are players who are legit face of the franchise players. See how Konecny compares.


Nathan McKinnon
Nikita Kucherov
Sidney Crosby
Alex Ovechkin
Auston Matthews
David Pasternak
Connor McDavid

Then for the Flyers, Travis Konecny. LOL. No knock on Konecny as a player but he just isn't there.
- MJL

there's that endorphins rush again