Was on a trip but a little catch up reading on the Leafs has Bradly in some big talks with the Flames?
- Santo_44

Friedge said something about Leafs looking hard for a center, Kadri came up. I hope that's not what's coming back, not that we could afford that contract... maybe if Domi went the other way, but Kadri making 7M into his late 30s frightens me.

According to Jonas, we're the most top-heavy team in the league.

I'm not convinced that's a problem like he makes it out to be: the rest on his list were some of the best teams in the league, so I think his data is skewed by having guys like Matthews on track for 70 goals.

What's a problem for me is 34/88/16 killing penalties with Kampf out. Why can't Bertuzzi do that? Or even Domi? McMann, Holmberg?

If we could make it happen, I'd be down for dumping Bertuzzi and Domi at the deadline for some two-way forwards who at least could play in all situations and give us some safe minutes in the bottom 6.

Friedge said something about Leafs looking hard for a center, Kadri came up. I hope that's not what's coming back, not that we could afford that contract... maybe if Domi went the other way, but Kadri making 7M into his late 30s frightens me.

According to Jonas, we're the most top-heavy team in the league.

I'm not convinced that's a problem like he makes it out to be: the rest on his list were some of the best teams in the league, so I think his data is skewed by having guys like Matthews on track for 70 goals.

What's a problem for me is 34/88/16 killing penalties with Kampf out. Why can't Bertuzzi do that? Or even Domi? McMann, Holmberg?

If we could make it happen, I'd be down for dumping Bertuzzi and Domi at the deadline for some two-way forwards who at least could play in all situations and give us some safe minutes in the bottom 6.
- gravyface

Keefe seems to only trust certain players, he usually is good at finding players who have never PK'd and turn them into players who can PK...why not this year? Seems he is probably really pushing for Brad to get a legit C to defend.

Dowd makes a lot of sense but a 1st apparently ?

I am fine with the Leafs leaving the TDL trading Robertson, Lily and a 1st if it brings back some quality pieces that help the next 3-5 years.

Do you trade Robertson and Kampf for Dowd and a pick?

I don't know, Brad could be pretty busy.

I like the Tanev and Hanifin option I have been reading if he can sign both.

Friedge said something about Leafs looking hard for a center, Kadri came up. I hope that's not what's coming back, not that we could afford that contract... maybe if Domi went the other way, but Kadri making 7M into his late 30s frightens me.

According to Jonas, we're the most top-heavy team in the league.

I'm not convinced that's a problem like he makes it out to be: the rest on his list were some of the best teams in the league, so I think his data is skewed by having guys like Matthews on track for 70 goals.

What's a problem for me is 34/88/16 killing penalties with Kampf out. Why can't Bertuzzi do that? Or even Domi? McMann, Holmberg?

If we could make it happen, I'd be down for dumping Bertuzzi and Domi at the deadline for some two-way forwards who at least could play in all situations and give us some safe minutes in the bottom 6.
- gravyface

I wouldn't touch Kadri's contract with a 10-foot pole. Signed through 2029 at a $7m caphit.

That is gonna age poorly.

I wouldn't touch Kadri's contract with a 10-foot pole. Signed through 2029 at a $7m caphit.

That is gonna age poorly.
- GalacticStone

The thought around the league seems to be that CGY owner doesn't like retaining unless its an expiring contract.

The thought around the league seems to be that CGY owner doesn't like retaining unless its an expiring contract.
- Santo_44

He better get used to it, it's a very important tool to use in a rebuild.

Friedge said something about Leafs looking hard for a center, Kadri came up. I hope that's not what's coming back, not that we could afford that contract... maybe if Domi went the other way, but Kadri making 7M into his late 30s frightens me.

According to Jonas, we're the most top-heavy team in the league.

I'm not convinced that's a problem like he makes it out to be: the rest on his list were some of the best teams in the league, so I think his data is skewed by having guys like Matthews on track for 70 goals.

What's a problem for me is 34/88/16 killing penalties with Kampf out. Why can't Bertuzzi do that? Or even Domi? McMann, Holmberg?

If we could make it happen, I'd be down for dumping Bertuzzi and Domi at the deadline for some two-way forwards who at least could play in all situations and give us some safe minutes in the bottom 6.
- gravyface

I think Holmberg has been out on the PK a few times and Domi/Bertuzzi are scary 5-on-5 let alone for a PK

He better get used to it, it's a very important tool to use in a rebuild.
- Scabeh

CGY is in no mans land.

A lengthy retool of mediocrity is on the horizon for them I think.

CGY is in no mans land.

A lengthy retool of mediocrity is on the horizon for them I think.
- Santo_44

They really quickly went from "buyers going for it" to "everyone wants to leave and we're rebuilding".

It's been rough for them to say the least.

They really quickly went from "buyers going for it" to "everyone wants to leave and we're rebuilding".

It's been rough for them to say the least.
- Scabeh

the Sutter Legacy lives on

Friedge said something about Leafs looking hard for a center, Kadri came up. I hope that's not what's coming back, not that we could afford that contract... maybe if Domi went the other way, but Kadri making 7M into his late 30s frightens me.

According to Jonas, we're the most top-heavy team in the league.

I'm not convinced that's a problem like he makes it out to be: the rest on his list were some of the best teams in the league, so I think his data is skewed by having guys like Matthews on track for 70 goals.

What's a problem for me is 34/88/16 killing penalties with Kampf out. Why can't Bertuzzi do that? Or even Domi? McMann, Holmberg?

If we could make it happen, I'd be down for dumping Bertuzzi and Domi at the deadline for some two-way forwards who at least could play in all situations and give us some safe minutes in the bottom 6.
- gravyface

they would need to waive their mnc/m-ntc

CGY is in no mans land.

A lengthy retool of mediocrity is on the horizon for them I think.
- Santo_44

Seems that way.

Shenanigan's For Hagens or All Alone For Malone!

they would need to waive their mnc/m-ntc
- dmnted

plus youd need to find teams in playoff hunt that want to part with their 2 way players in every situation

Hanifin, Tanev(both retained 50%), couple mid round picks(maybe a 3rd in there)

Liljergen, Timmins, 2024 1st, Abruzesse

Sign em both



Nic Dowd(50% retained)

Robertson



Knies-AM-Marner
Bert-JT-Nylander
Holmberg-Domi-Jarnkrok
Gregor-Dowd-Kampf
Reaves

Reilly-Brodie
Hanifin-Tanev
Benoit-McCabe
Gio

Sammy
Woll

140K in cap space. Punt Kampfs contract in the summer once his 1.3M bonus is paid.

They really quickly went from "buyers going for it" to "everyone wants to leave and we're rebuilding".

It's been rough for them to say the least.
- Scabeh

Tough situation.

I think the next few years we see more them targeting Sharongovich type players over high picks.

Which in the long run won't help them win a cup.

Hanifin, Tanev, couple mid round picks(maybe a 3rd in there)

Liljergen, Timmins, 2024 1st, Abruzesse

Sign em both



Nic Dowd(50% retained)

Robertson



Knies-AM-Marner
Bert-JT-Nylander
Holmberg-Domi-Jarnkrok
Gregor-Dowd-Kampf
Reaves

Reilly-Tanev
Hanifin-McCabe
Benoit-Brodie
Gio

Sammy
Woll

140K in cap space. Punt Kampfs contract in the summer once his 1.3M bonus us paid.
- Santo_44

I'd go with that D pairing if Calgary accept that trade, which IMO they would not.
Hanifin will want Rielly's cap hit and will he want to play for a another Canadian team as he was on the record saying he prefered to play for an American team.

I'd go with that D pairing if Calgary accept that trade, which IMO they would not.
Hanifin will want Rielly' cap hit and will he want to play for a another Canadian team as he was on the recaord saying he prefered to play for an American team.
- dmnted

Don't think they are getting better on the open market for those players. Maybe just high picks involved but with how the GM is operating we know that will not be the case.

Toronto has been outside that "I don't want to play for a Canadian team" saying before.

They can pay Hanifin good $.

Cap is going up and if they make smart cap thinking moves like cashing in on Robertsons potential for 2 years of Dowd at 650K it saves them a lot of money needing to keep Kampf or trying to sign another Dowd/Kampf type player.

Don't think they are getting better on the open market for those players. Maybe just high picks involved but with how the GM is operating we know that will not be the case.

Toronto has been outside that "I don't want to play for a Canadian team" saying before.

They can pay Hanifin good $.

Cap is going up and if they make smart cap thinking moves like cashing in on Robertsons potential for 2 years of Dowd at 650K it saves them a lot of money needing to keep Kampf or trying to sign another Dowd/Kampf type player.
- Santo_44

monahan got a late first. Tanev and Hanafin are both worth more than Monahan and the Lolgren sweetener isnt enough

monahan got a late first. Tanev and Hanafin are both worth more than Monahan and the Lolgren sweetener isnt enough
- drexel

Monahan got a 1st because he was the last decent C on the market. Just because Jets overpaid doesn't mean it raises the price for other players.

Liljergen is worth what Sandin got last year.

1st and a rental D who would have gone for a 3rd.

I also don't think they want just picks for those players, they are retooling and are 1 point out of a playoffs spot. Their previous moves suggest they want younger players that can help now plus some picks.

Monahan got a 1st because he was the last decent C on the market. Just because Jets overpaid doesn't mean it raises the price for other players.

Liljergen is worth what Sandin got last year.

1st and a rental D who would have gone for a 3rd.

I also don't think they want just picks for those players, they are retooling and are 1 point out of a playoffs spot. Their previous moves suggest they want younger players that can help now plus some picks.
- Santo_44

I think Henrique to the Avs is a forgone conclusion. People are sleeping on Mantha. Somebody will overpay.

I think Henrique to the Avs is a forgone conclusion. People are sleeping on Mantha. Somebody will overpay.
- AdamFrench

Mantha 50% retained maybe gets the caps something decent.

Takes a special fit for him to be useful for a team so I don't know if there will be many suitors for him.

They have been good picks but now they're just Mantha fodder.

Mantha 50% retained maybe gets the caps something decent.

Takes a special fit for him to be useful for a team so I don't know if there will be many suitors for him.
- Santo_44

You know how GM's are. A 6'5 guy who is on pace for 30ish goals. Basically roll out the red carpet Even if he's the softest 6'5 guy in history and is only having a good season in his last gasp year.

They have been good picks but now they're just Mantha fodder.
- Zezel

Friedge said something about Leafs looking hard for a center, Kadri came up. I hope that's not what's coming back, not that we could afford that contract... maybe if Domi went the other way, but Kadri making 7M into his late 30s frightens me.

According to Jonas, we're the most top-heavy team in the league.

I'm not convinced that's a problem like he makes it out to be: the rest on his list were some of the best teams in the league, so I think his data is skewed by having guys like Matthews on track for 70 goals.

What's a problem for me is 34/88/16 killing penalties with Kampf out. Why can't Bertuzzi do that? Or even Domi? McMann, Holmberg?

If we could make it happen, I'd be down for dumping Bertuzzi and Domi at the deadline for some two-way forwards who at least could play in all situations and give us some safe minutes in the bottom 6.
- gravyface

Plus for moving the two at the deadline. They been nothing short of to this point

- AdamFrench

lol...Han's Tauntaun weather is the worst.

Unlike today where I went open water fishing and ice skating on the same day.