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NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
I'll stick with my guess of 3. No prior suspension history or injury to the player, right? If it's 6, I feel like that's a strong statement by the league. Will they do it? Who knows with this DoPS.
- t-dawg

i agree i thought 3 too.

listening to 32 thoughts now - jeff and elliott agree on 3 too.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
YOU AND A TRADE HUNCH?!!? jp buddy

honestly i don't know. i could also just see panarin making up the due date to not have to go to the allstar game lol like she already had the baby and just havent told anyone.

- NYRangers1124

I need to enter TA, trades anonymous 😔
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
My guess is 3 games. And honestly I think Leafs fans will take that as a win. They've been sorely lacking this type of emotion their team has shown over the past few games, for years now. If they want to hang with the Panthers or Knights or Bolts of the world, this type of stuff is necessary.

If it's a 6 game suspension, then it's not worth obviously.

- t-dawg

He's been offered an in-person hearing, so that means they could potentially suspend him for more than 5 games. There has been a few cases where players didn't get more than 5 games after an in-person hearing, but the overwhelming majority of those type of hearings result in suspensions over that amount.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
If you don't want an empty goal scored against you, don't pull the goalie. The slap shot into the empty net is not new.
- blacksheep1


From just outside the crease?????????? I don't think so. I may have seen that once in my 45 years of watching the NHL. And it was so long ago, I'm not even sure. I bet you they paid a heavy price.
Are you saying back when Wilson body slammed Panarin and embarrassed our whole team on home ice, we should have just accepted it and tried to score a pretty goal? No need to send a message to them and the rest of the league that we would push back against that sort of treatment?
Same damn thing. You can't call for guys to play with pride and heart and then turn around and tell them that doing something outside the rules is unacceptable. There are the rules, but then there is also the code. Like it or not.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 12 @ 10:49 AM ET
From just outside the crease?????????? I don't think so. I may have seen that once in my 45 years of watching the NHL. And it was so long ago, I'm not even sure. I bet you they paid a heavy price.
Are you saying back when Wilson body slammed Panarin and embarrassed our whole team on home ice, we should have just accepted it and tried to score a pretty goal? No need to send a message to them and the rest of the league that we would push back against that sort of treatment?
Same damn thing. You can't call for guys to play with pride and heart and then turn around and tell them that doing something outside the rules is unacceptable. There are the rules, but then there is also the code. Like it or not.

- Tonybere

I have a feeling if it was the Coyotes for example he probably easily slides into the net and it’s just the average eng. But is was Toronto and he felt the need to be a doosh (because of that mostly)

But I’ve never seen that either, that was legit a 100mph slap shot
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:49 AM ET
My hunch is one of them will be included in a center trade and said team wants to see both guys in the lineup to decide who they want. Idk. Just one of many thoughts I have in my head lol

But yea I think you could be right where he’ll miss a game or two. How many fkin babies are these players having this year??

- Slimtj100



2 players who have never played in the NHL the center of a trade??

You and your trades.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 12 @ 10:50 AM ET
From just outside the crease?????????? I don't think so. I may have seen that once in my 45 years of watching the NHL. And it was so long ago, I'm not even sure. I bet you they paid a heavy price.
Are you saying back when Wilson body slammed Panarin and embarrassed our whole team on home ice, we should have just accepted it and tried to score a pretty goal? No need to send a message to them and the rest of the league that we would push back against that sort of treatment?
Same damn thing. You can't call for guys to play with pride and heart and then turn around and tell them that doing something outside the rules is unacceptable. There are the rules, but then there is also the code. Like it or not.

- Tonybere


https://x.com/CanesStats/.../1756719572944584993?s=20

Legit happened a decade ago vs the Leafs. Time is a flat circle. Don't want to get embarrassed? Don't pull the goalie. Win the game. Score made it 5-3. Not 9-3.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
2 players who have never played in the NHL the center of a trade??

You and your trades.

- Brukie

I said part of a trade for a center..You can’t read 🤷🏻‍♂️
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
I have a feeling if it was the Coyotes for example he probably easily slides into the net and it’s just the average eng. But is was Toronto and he felt the need to be a doosh (because of that mostly)

But I’ve never seen that either, that was legit a 100mph slap shot

- Slimtj100

Saw this earlier, may be one reason why Greig did that:

Chris Stevenson 🇨🇦🏒⛳️🍺
@CJ_Stevenson
1h
Maybe somebody can go back and look but it seems to me Ridly Greig got decked in front of the Toronto net shortly before the game ended. He was either cross checked or took a high stick and was slow getting up. There was no call. Maybe he was pissed after that ... #sens
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 12 @ 10:57 AM ET
https://x.com/CanesStats/status/1756719572944584993?s=20

Legit happened a decade ago vs the Leafs. Time is a flat circle. Don't want to get embarrassed? Don't pull the goalie. Win the game. Score made it 5-3. Not 9-3.

- blacksheep1


I don't know what to tell you. You are being willfully ignorant. These are not even close to the same situation.
This game has had an element of being policed by the players for over 100 years.
The rules have little to do with it. You're right that Grieg did not break any rules, according to the NHL rule book with his actions. But, I think it's rather obvious that he broke the rules of the NHLPA code of conduct book. Judgement and retribution by those standards come swift and often violently.
Don't want to get scored on in an empty net, don't pull the goalie. Also, don't want to get hit in the mouth, don't disrespect your opponent. Not hard to understand.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:00 AM ET
I hope it becomes a thing, slap shot as hard as you can into empty nets. Frank them all!!
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:01 AM ET
I don't know what to tell you. You are being willfully ignorant. These are not even close to the same situation.
This game has had an element of being policed by the players for over 100 years.
The rules have little to do with it. You're right that Grieg did not break any rules, according to the NHL rule book with his actions. But, I think it's rather obvious that he broke the rules of the NHLPA code of conduct book. Judgement and retribution by those standards come swift and often violently.
Don't want to get scored on in an empty net, don't pull the goalie. Also, don't want to get hit in the mouth, don't disrespect your opponent. Not hard to understand.

- Tonybere


not at all. There is no rule saying you can't take a slap shot into an empty net.

In clip I posted. Eric Staal is trying to hurt Phanuef with that shot. Greig is shooting into a net with nobody around. Reilly is pissed because of the score and the turnover. A cross check to the head after a goal has always been a penalty.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:02 AM ET
I hope it becomes a thing, slap shot as hard as you can into empty nets. Frank them all!!
- TPC

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:03 AM ET
not at all. There is no rule saying you can't take a slap shot into an empty.

In clip I posted. Eric Staal is trying to hurt Phanuef with that shot. Greig is shooting into a net with nobody around. Reilly is pissed because of the score and the turnover. A cross check to the head after a goal has always been penalty.

- blacksheep1

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 12 @ 11:10 AM ET
Saw this earlier, may be one reason why Greig did that:

Chris Stevenson 🇨🇦🏒⛳️🍺
@CJ_Stevenson
1h
Maybe somebody can go back and look but it seems to me Ridly Greig got decked in front of the Toronto net shortly before the game ended. He was either cross checked or took a high stick and was slow getting up. There was no call. Maybe he was pissed after that ... #sens

- eichiefs9


He’s also an agitator which is probably part of it. I don’t think Tarasenko is doing that (for example)
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
He’s also an agitator which is probably part of it. I don’t think Tarasenko is doing that (for example)
- Slimtj100

Possibly. At the end of the day, he didn't really do anything "wrong" but it's not a good look or a smart move to showboat when you've already got the game locked up and won, even if you took some lumps a few moments before. I have no real personal issue with what Rielly did, I get why he did it, but I also think it's fully deserving of a not-insignificant suspension and will likely be that.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
Possibly. At the end of the day, he didn't really do anything "wrong" but it's not a good look or a smart move to showboat when you've already got the game locked up and won, even if you took some lumps a few moments before. I have no real personal issue with what Rielly did, I get why he did it, but I also think it's fully deserving of a not-insignificant suspension and will likely be that.
- eichiefs9
to me 5 games is enough. Less or more I could see and not really have a problem with it tho

I’m just glad rangers aren’t involved lol I’m non biased and I think it was bush league what Grieg did. Very uncalled for and it definitely deserved an ass whoopin, perhaps with a fist and not a stick

I’d be more inclined to defend a Ranger on the Reilly side of it. I’d be pissed if one of the rangers did what Greig did
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
Possibly. At the end of the day, he didn't really do anything "wrong" but it's not a good look or a smart move to showboat when you've already got the game locked up and won, even if you took some lumps a few moments before. I have no real personal issue with what Rielly did, I get why he did it, but I also think it's fully deserving of a not-insignificant suspension and will likely be that.
- eichiefs9


Exactly this.
Reilly made a decision to stand up and make a statement that you aren't going to do that to the Maple Leafs and he will take the punishment that comes for it.
I haven't come across a single Leaf fan that is upset with Reilly for it. More like they are surprised their team finally stood up for themselves.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:33 AM ET
to me 5 games is enough. Less or more I could see and not really have a problem with it tho

I’m just glad rangers aren’t involved lol I’m non biased and I think it was bush league what Grieg did. Very uncalled for and it definitely deserved an ass whoopin, perhaps with a fist and not a stick

- Slimtj100

I mean way back in 1993, when you could pretty much commit felony assault on other players, Dale Hunter got 21 games for nailing Turgeon after he scored and he didn't crosscheck him in the face. I'm not suggesting that Rielly deserves 21 games, but with that precedent I would imagine the NHL is not going to go too light on him here
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
I mean way back in 1993, when you could pretty much commit felony assault on other players, Dale Hunter got 21 games for nailing Turgeon after he scored and he didn't crosscheck him in the face. I'm not suggesting that Rielly deserves 21 games, but with that precedent I would imagine the NHL is not going to go too light on him here
- eichiefs9

I think hunters was worse imo. Turgeon didn’t do anything to show them up if I recall. And Pierre was legit just going through the motions of a normal celebration
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
Exactly this.
Reilly made a decision to stand up and make a statement that you aren't going to do that to the Maple Leafs and he will take the punishment that comes for it.
I haven't come across a single Leaf fan that is upset with Reilly for it. More like they are surprised their team finally stood up for themselves.

- Tonybere

It may ultimately galvanize the team and endear him to Leafs fans forever, but if they struggle with him out of the lineup for 6+ games and miss out on some important points it will probably end up being nothing more than a costly moral victory.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
I think hunters was worse imo. Turgeon didn’t do anything to show them up if I recall. And Pierre was legit just going through the motions of a normal celebration
- Slimtj100

Yeah for sure, not implying this was as bad...but 21 games is an astronomical number of games for a suspension. Also Hunter had the history of repeatedly being a scumbag.

But I won't be surprised if Rielly gets in the neighborhood of 8 games, give or take 1.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
It may ultimately galvanize the team and endear him to Leafs fans forever, but if they struggle with him out of the lineup for 6+ games and miss out on some important points it will probably end up being nothing more than a costly moral victory.
- eichiefs9

Just reading their board last day or two, they want Keefe fired real bad

They need to trade Marner (not to the rangers lol) because they need a few pieces instead of being so top heavy
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
not at all. There is no rule saying you can't take a slap shot into an empty net.

In clip I posted. Eric Staal is trying to hurt Phanuef with that shot. Greig is shooting into a net with nobody around. Reilly is pissed because of the score and the turnover. A cross check to the head after a goal has always been a penalty.

- blacksheep1


You think I need that explained?
I'm telling you that there is an unwritten rule against it and Grieg shouldn't be surprised that his actions had repercussions.

And while I understand and agree that Staal didn't give a poop if his shot hurt Phaneuf, there is a big difference between putting mustard on a shot from 18 feet with 3 defenders in a position to stop a "polite" shot and being 1 foot outside the crease with no one within 20 feet of you.

I just don't get the lack of comprehension.
Grieg did something that, while not "wrong," was going to bring a response. Reilly did something that he knew was wrong yet needed to be done and he will suffer the consequences for it. Everyone involved should understand the whole reasoning from both ends and move on.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
Just reading their board last day or two, they want Keefe fired real bad

They need to trade Marner (not to the rangers lol) because they need a few pieces instead of being so top heavy

- Slimtj100

I don't understand that organization's support of Keefe. He's not a good coach yet they keep trotting him out there every year as if he's irreplaceable.

But yeah, they're lacking so bad on the blueline and in net. Getting rid of someone to fill some of the other holes would probably yield some good results for them.
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