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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 11 @ 10:47 AM ET
danny boy needs to hit a home run at this deadline imo.
- hello it's me 2050
Me thinks you are going to end up disappointed.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Feb 11 @ 10:53 AM ET
Yes, I gave up going to games in Toronto. I just go to Buffalo to watch the Flyers , get level 100 seats, and hotel for cheaper than a ticket at Leaf game
- 3flyerkids

And the food is so much better here too
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
Me thinks you are going to end up disappointed.
- Phillywhiteout

just want to be entertained. which I think I will be
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 11 @ 11:04 AM ET
Me thinks you are going to end up disappointed.
- Phillywhiteout

This comment isn’t a direct attack on anyone but my question becomes, what's considered a "home run" at the deadline for a team that is on the verge of making the playoffs but should be rebuilding?

Sean Walker for example is an expiring deal. Makes perfect sense to trade him. No argument. I wouldn't be surprised if Walker didn't get moved unless a team like Tampa Bay came calling because Tampa has a hole on D, they probably have a late first and they still believe they're a contender. I also don’t think Briere moves a guy unless the Flyers get what they want.

With this said, Walker has been a top 4 defender for us all season. He's helped us get to this point. Walker gets moved, so Risto has to move up in the line up and I don't think Torts trusts Zamula at even strength. Of course there is always the risk of injury. Walker gets traded. Another defender gets hurt the next game is always a possibility.

Again, I think the Flyers will be careful. I think most deals (not all) will wait until the offseason.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 11 @ 11:05 AM ET
I willing bet big folding paper money Laughton is an offseason deal. He starts the PK and is dangerous shorthanded. He’s a very handy player both now and in the playoffs. I think him wearing a letter right now comes into play.
- roenick97


I would agree. Also the term remaining would shrink the market for him
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:35 AM ET
I’m so sick of these idiots winning every game. I wish they’d stop trying. 🤪

Anyone see Reilley’s cross check to greig’s face after he scored on an empty net last night? Haha. He snapped and went full dale hunter on turgeon. Of course, leafs fans saw no issue with it. Clowns.

- Hextall271


That was crazy but i understand that level of frustration and the disrespect for taking a 2 foot clapper.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
just want to be entertained. which I think I will be
- hello it's me 2050
Yes, I think that is a good possibility at least. There will be some action most certainly. Just not sure exactly what that action will be.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
I don’t think the Flyers are willing to sacrifice the playoffs to wheel and deal at the deadline. A lot of these rumored deals can wait until the offseason. The writing may be on the wall for Walker. As a potential playoff team, I think this team should always be concerned with depth on the back end.
- roenick97


I agree. I see 2 players tops being dealt. I think they want to see what they have with this group.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
This comment isn’t a direct attack on anyone but my question becomes, what's considered a "home run" at the deadline for a team that is on the verge of making the playoffs but should be rebuilding?

Sean Walker for example is an expiring deal. Makes perfect sense to trade him. No argument. I wouldn't be surprised if Walker didn't get moved unless a team like Tampa Bay came calling because Tampa has a hole on D, they probably have a late first and they still believe they're a contender. I also don’t think Briere moves a guy unless the Flyers get what they want.

With this said, Walker has been a top 4 defender for us all season. He's helped us get to this point. Walker gets moved, so Risto has to move up in the line up and I don't think Torts trusts Zamula at even strength. Of course there is always the risk of injury. Walker gets traded. Another defender gets hurt the next game is always a possibility.

Again, I think the Flyers will be careful. I think most deals (not all) will wait until the offseason.

- roenick97
The Flyers have put themselves in a very interesting situation to say the least. No one (themselves probably included) expected them to be in this spot at this time of year. I thought Zamula had a rough game against Winnipeg and I'm not surprised he sat last night. Lots of decisions to be made in the next few weeks cause it certainly looks like they are going to remain in contention for a playoff spot.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Feb 11 @ 11:40 AM ET
This is not a deep draft at all. Going to be critical to use these picks wisely either moving up or trading for prospects like a Tippett who has skills but not breaking through a lineup
- hfc355


I would still target Broberg in Edmonton
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Feb 11 @ 11:42 AM ET
Not a " Canadian thing", just a Leaf fan base mentality, living here i see and hear it every day. 40M on 4 forwards...kind of hard to have a balanced team, I have that argument with many of them
- 3flyerkids



It's the same out here on the West Coast. Vancouver fans are just as bad.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
It's the same out here on the West Coast. Vancouver fans are just as bad.
- TheFreak
It just seems to me that Canadians are just rabid fans when it comes to hockey although it seems from down here in the States that the Laffs fans are the worst. Kind of like Eagles fans around here. Hockey is everything up there, and despite there being 4 professional teams in Philly the Eagles far and away have the largest fan base (and the most obnoxious one).
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
I would agree. Also the term remaining would shrink the market for him
- Just5


Not necessarily. I think some teams could see that term at that salary as fair to good value. If he can keep getting 30-40 points I could see him getting a new contract with a small raise somewhere.

Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
Walker should bring back a late 1st. More ammo
- Just5


Would you give up a 1st for Walker?
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Feb 11 @ 11:52 AM ET
It just seems to me that Canadians are just rabid fans when it comes to hockey although it seems from down here in the States that the Laffs fans are the worst. Kind of like Eagles fans around here. Hockey is everything up there, and despite there being 4 professional teams in Philly the Eagles far and away have the largest fan base.
- Phillywhiteout


Leafs, Yankees and Cowboys....the fans are one and the same.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Feb 11 @ 11:54 AM ET
Would you give up a 1st for Walker?
- Pelle31Forever


No, but I wouldn't trade a first unless it was for a bonafide player.... like part of a package for a guy like Forsberg in Nashville. I wouldn't move a first for anything that wan't a top 3 forward or top 2 dman.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
Kaapo Kakko is allegedly available. Rangers allegedly looking to move Goodrow.

Would a laughton, GH, + get a conversation started for those 2 above? Would either team do it?

- hello it's me 2050


They'll want youth going back. Rags are already old enough. They do need a center so Laughton makes a little sense.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 11 @ 11:58 AM ET
No, but I wouldn't trade a first unless it was for a bonafide player.... like part of a package for a guy like Forsberg in Nashville. I wouldn't move a first for anything that wan't a top 3 forward or top 2 dman.
- TheFreak


Right. I don't think anyone is giving up a 1st for any of our potential trade pieces.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
I can see this division really opening up in the coming seasons if the Flyers manage to do things the right way. The Rags are at the top now, but they have some age on them. The Pens, Caps and Isles are all in bad shape going forward (Columbus is always a mess). Then you have the Canes and Devils that look good going forward. There is a spot there for the Flyers to be regulars in the top 3 of the Metro for a long time IF they do it right!!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:00 PM ET
Not a " Canadian thing", just a Leaf fan base mentality, living here i see and hear it every day. 40M on 4 forwards...kind of hard to have a balanced team, I have that argument with many of them
- 3flyerkids


It’s even worse if you factor in reilleys contract as well as the nylander extension. I think it’s something like 54 mil on 4 forwards and a dman. 5 players. And to me, the real kicker is that they have not shown any ability to be successful in the playoffs. Once to the second round in what? 6 years?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:02 PM ET
I can see this division really opening up in the coming seasons if the Flyers manage to do things the right way. The Rags are at the top now, but they have some age on them. The Pens, Caps and Isles are all in bad shape going forward (Columbus is always a mess). Then you have the Canes and Devils that look good going forward. There is a spot there for the Flyers to be regulars in the top 3 of the Metro for a long time IF they do it right!!
- Phillywhiteout


I agree. I’m surprised that the devils have struggled like they have this year but I guess they didn’t have Hughes for a large portion. Caps and pens are likely in for lengthy rebuilds soon.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:02 PM ET
I can see this division really opening up in the coming seasons if the Flyers manage to do things the right way. The Rags are at the top now, but they have some age on them. The Pens, Caps and Isles are all in bad shape going forward (Columbus is always a mess). Then you have the Canes and Devils that look good going forward. There is a spot there for the Flyer to be regulars in the top 3 of the Metro for a long time IF they do it right!!
- Phillywhiteout


Agree however of all the playoff teams currently in position, Flyers are the only ones who won't (or at least shouldn't) be buyers.

Devils and Canes will add. Pittsburgh didn't acquire Karlsson to miss the playoffs, they'll try to add. Metro teams are going to try to get better NOW. Flyers might try to get better long term.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:03 PM ET
And the food is so much better here too
- Stayin alive


It’s really insane I’ve heard. I’d do the same thing. Probably be cheaper to see them in Philly haha
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
Agree however of all the playoff teams currently in position, Flyers are the only ones who won't (or at least shouldn't) be buyers.

Devils and Canes will add. Pittsburgh didn't acquire Karlsson to miss the playoffs, they'll try to add. Metro teams are going to try to get better NOW. Flyers might try to get better long term.

- Pelle31Forever


And I’m ok with this. I want to really re stock the cupboards this draft. Wrt pitt, they almost have zero prospect or draft capital to trade due to years of going for it.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:05 PM ET
so how are we going to get the talent Chicago will amass with bedard and probably yet another top 5 pick this year?
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