You are right. Flyers stay in playoff hunt , and solidly in it now, they aren't trading anyone but Walker. They are not going to risk not making the playoffs rebuild or not.
- hfc355

If we were out of the playoff hunt they would’ve probably traded him to a contender for a chance to win.

I think their argument for keeping him is less about “we need his skill if we are going to make the playoffs” and more of “if we are making the playoffs, let’s give Laughts one last playoff run with the team in hopes of a miracle run” - Disney movie stuff.

Of course - in either scenario - they will be asking him where he wants to go. Hopefully DB doesn’t leave too much in the table in order to accommodate him.

What does liquid mean? I think Kakko has more value than a potential late first rounder. I think if I'm reading you correctly you think the Flyers can package a late first rounder and move up into the top of the draft. I seriously doubt that.

Now I'm going to preface this with I don't think the Rangers would do something like this and the Flyers might not want to trade with the Rangers, but how how about these fantasy deals?

Flyers trade Konecny with 50% retained for Kakko, Braden Schneider or Brennan Othmann and another pick?

Or Konecny at 50% retained for Gabe Perrault and a 1st round pick?
- MJL

Yeah you were pretty much picking up what I was putting down….but I was thinking TK/Laughton/Andrea or something would be added to the package of 2 or all 3 to move up…

But anyway, those returns seem pretty solid. I think Perrault is looking like he could be special

What does liquid mean? I think Kakko has more value than a potential late first rounder. I think if I'm reading you correctly you think the Flyers can package a late first rounder and move up into the top of the draft. I seriously doubt that.

Now I'm going to preface this with I don't think the Rangers would do something like this and the Flyers might not want to trade with the Rangers, but how how about these fantasy deals?

Flyers trade Konecny with 50% retained for Kakko, Braden Schneider or Brennan Othmann and another pick?

Or Konecny at 50% retained for Gabe Perrault and a 1st round pick?
- MJL

I would do this in a heartbeat.

I still think they resign TK and Seeler. All reports are they are hoping to get TK done unless that’s smoke being put out there by the Flyers to raise the price.

What does liquid mean? I think Kakko has more value than a potential late first rounder. I think if I'm reading you correctly you think the Flyers can package a late first rounder and move up into the top of the draft. I seriously doubt that.

Now I'm going to preface this with I don't think the Rangers would do something like this and the Flyers might not want to trade with the Rangers, but how how about these fantasy deals?

Flyers trade Konecny with 50% retained for Kakko, Braden Schneider or Brennan Othmann and another pick?

Or Konecny at 50% retained for Gabe Perrault and a 1st round pick?
- MJL

Rangers aren't trading Othmann or Perreault..you have to keep guys who could be stars at minimal salaries..Could they trade Kakko and Schneider for TK with 50% retained?? Possible if include Frost. Problem I see is that Rangers are deep in forward prospects and would need someone to replace Scneider but that deal could work for both

In the same realm, there has been talk of Kneis of Toronto being the “instead of a first” for the Leafs.

Thoughts? He’s a big kid
- Wingdestroyer

would love knies but would wonder what toronto would want they need defense and better goaltending (Woll isn't the answer yet, Samsonov sucks)

Yeah you were pretty much picking up what I was putting down….but I was thinking TK/Laughton/Andrea or something would be added to the package of 2 or all 3 to move up…

But anyway, those returns seem pretty solid. I think Perrault is looking like he could be special
- Wingdestroyer

A team that wants Konecny and Laughton generally is not going to have a high first rounder.

Laughton should net us a late 1st round pick.

Walker probably realistically gets us a 2nd and maybe a b prospect or reclamation project.

Seeler gets us a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Staal i give away

TK is set the market at 1st + high end prospect or 2 1st round picks plus

Side note, I trade Coots to Boston at the Draft for future picks. His value is up and now is the time to strike.

Honestly we should listen on anyone and if the deal is an over pay we take it.

What does liquid mean? I think Kakko has more value than a potential late first rounder. I think if I'm reading you correctly you think the Flyers can package a late first rounder and move up into the top of the draft. I seriously doubt that.

Now I'm going to preface this with I don't think the Rangers would do something like this and the Flyers might not want to trade with the Rangers, but how how about these fantasy deals?

Flyers trade Konecny with 50% retained for Kakko, Braden Schneider or Brennan Othmann and another pick?

Or Konecny at 50% retained for Gabe Perrault and a 1st round pick?
- MJL

Rangers aren't trading Othmann or Pereault..you have to keep guys who could be stars at minimal salaries..Could they trade Kakko and Schneider for TK with 50% retained?? Possible if include Frost. Problem I see is that Rangers are deep in forward prospects and would need someone to replace Scneider but that deal could work for both

Laughton should net us a late 1st round pick.

Walker probably realistically gets us a 2nd and maybe a b prospect or reclamation project.

Seeler gets us a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Staal i give away

TK is set the market at 1st + high end prospect or 2 1st round picks plus

Side note, I trade Coots to Boston at the Draft for future picks. His value is up and now is the time to strike.

Honestly we should listen on anyone and if the deal is an over pay we take it.
- Flyerloon

No one is taking Couts and Laughton isnt getting a 1st

At least PUBLICLY he has been saying the right things. "we cant fall in love", "we have to listen and make deals if they make sense" etc.

Behind closed doors it may be different, but going on what Torts has been saying I am in a wait and see mode.

My prediction: Laughton and Walker are dealt.
- MBFlyerfan

My guess is Torts is on board with getting younger but would like players like Drysdale in return vs draft picks. Young players who he can work with not guys he has to wait for.

And I’m ok with this. I want to really re stock the cupboards this draft. Wrt pitt, they almost have zero prospect or draft capital to trade due to years of going for it.
- Hextall271

Same here. Bigger picture in play than just this season.

Hearing about this draft id rather the Walker return be in the 25 draft
- Just5

What are you hearing? Everything I’ve seen says it’s deep on good defensemen.

Yeah, I was referring to the upcoming seasons. The Pens have to go all in cause their window is almost shut (it is shut in my opinion). The Canes and Devils will be good most likely for the long haul, but the rest of the teams in the Metro look to leave lots to be desired in the coming seasons.
- Phillywhiteout

Devils need goaltending and defense. Canes could add a goalie too. That market is bare. No one is taking on Gibson for that money and term. They'll have to settle on the Jake Allen's of the world.

Agree on the Pens. It's over. But they won't go down without a fight.

Some good discussion here and I think most are in agreement with what the Flyers should do. It is unlikely, however, for the reasons we already know (Two thirds of the triumvirate, Flyers like their guys, won’t sell high, etc)

Can Danny break free of the Flyers culture and put his mark on this team? Or will he continue to be a collaborator?
- StepfordSam

Keep in mind this can always be smoke and mirrors to drive up value. In Keith Jones book he even talks about how teams will all of a sudden put a letter on a guy’s chest to increase his value. Even happened to him.

Keep in mind this can always be smoke and mirrors to drive up value. In Keith Jones book he even talks about how teams will all of a sudden put a letter on a guy’s chest to increase his value. Even happened to him.
- Schmojo

I don't buy for a second that works.

Flyers and Pens both have the same major weakness: poor power play performance. Arizona, a team with less offensive talent than either PA team, has the 11th best PP%.

I don't buy for a second that works.
- MJL

agree cliff

I don't buy for a second that works.
- MJL

I wouldn’t think people are that easily manipulated either but doesn’t mean it’s not a tactic teams try. And like I said, that’s straight from Jonesy. Teams and agents are constantly using the media to drop in narratives.

Also, if they say they like Walker (or another guy) it doesn’t mean that they won’t trade him. I like Walker & Laughton but I would definitely trade both of them.

this team needs consistent vets for the young guys so if we trade coots and TK who do we have

What are you hearing? Everything I’ve seen says it’s deep on good defensemen.
- Schmojo

Deep in the top 10 not 20+

I wouldn’t think people are that easily manipulated either but doesn’t mean it’s not a tactic teams try. And like I said, that’s straight from Jonesy. Teams and agents are constantly using the media to drop in narratives.

Also, if they say they like Walker (or another guy) it doesn’t mean that they won’t trade him. I like Walker & Laughton but I would definitely trade both of them.
- Schmojo

Jonesy is full of it.

Really go to be a tightrope, figure if they trade, best case it is to the west, would hate to trade east and then have that team knock you out of PO race or playoffs. It is obvious that ND is cooked, if not this year, it will be next they sit him down and tell him go help AHL players. That means Laughton still an important piece for the stretch run. Heck Walker is important. It will not be easy to walk the line for DB

danny boy needs to hit a home run at this deadline imo.
- hello it's me 2050

Not necessarily. DB can also make deals in the offseason. I don’t think the Flyers should trade any player for lesser value, nor make a trade for the sake of a trade. I’m getting myself prepared for a quiet deadline.

Really hoping Morgan Riley sees two game suspension.

because he has the goods.

why wouldn't they want him? coming off a 42 point season. down this year. still plenty of upside. plays strong 2 way game. they type of player your godlike coach would love no?
- hello it's me 2050

No, The Flyers don’t need a player like Kakko