please elaborate why it is unrealistic or unfair.
- hello it's me 2050

i'd agree with MJL, i'm not going to judge Danny by what he does at the deadline alone. I think the TDL + Draft/moves in the offseason should be how he's judged.

I hope Risto gets moved, although EF made it seem like there were folks who talked to him that believed he'd be an off-season deal (if at all) as it's tougher to fit him in mid-season vs giving him a camp to properly slot in.

I read that. They were unwilling to give up a 1st to get Lindholm. Drury has made some good moves but he has made a lot of bad moves with the Rangers.
- MJL

They’ve benefited greatly by players(Fox, Panarin,etc.) only wanted to play there.

i'd agree with MJL, i'm not going to judge Danny by what he does at the deadline alone. I think the TDL + Draft/moves in the offseason should be how he's judged.

I hope Risto gets moved, although EF made it seem like there were folks who talked to him that believed he'd be an off-season deal (if at all) as it's tougher to fit him in mid-season vs giving him a camp to properly slot in.
- anti-lame

why is it unrealistic or unfair to expect a home run?

why is it unrealistic or unfair to expect a home run?
- hello it's me 2050

I'm not saying it can't happen but i think there's less opportunity for deals to happen in general at the TDL, less teams making moves vs at the draft. I think teams will have more flexibility, have a better idea what their next moves should be and more teams willing to make deals once the season is over. hitting a home run could be something like moving Risto for something decent at the draft - I would be ecstatic - but I won't judge Danny for not moving everyone by the TDL if the deals aren't there yet.

i just don't think hitting a home run at the TDL is imperative, I'd hate to move someone now just to say we made TDL moves if there are bigger, better options once the season is over. I think if we are underwhelmed by moves made by the start of next season then we have more of a reason to be critical.

why is it unrealistic or unfair to expect a home run?
- hello it's me 2050

I know you’re not asking me directly, but I would kinda agree TK might not seem like a deadline deal. And if that’s not the case, you’re really handcuffed in your ability to hit “a home run” with Walker/Laughton/Seeler.

Unless, you see something like getting out from Ristolainen’s contract with value as a home run…that’s still maybe possible? I dunno

I know you’re not asking me directly, but I would kinda agree TK might not seem like a deadline deal. And if that’s not the case, you’re really handcuffed in your ability to hit “a home run” with Walker/Laughton/Seeler.

Unless, you see something like getting out from Ristolainen’s contract with value as a home run…that’s still maybe possible? I dunno
- Wingdestroyer

TK isnt getting moved unless he tells them he will test free agency. would floor me otherwise if traded.

I know you’re not asking me directly, but I would kinda agree TK might not seem like a deadline deal. And if that’s not the case, you’re really handcuffed in your ability to hit “a home run” with Walker/Laughton/Seeler.

Unless, you see something like getting out from Ristolainen’s contract with value as a home run…that’s still maybe possible? I dunno
- Wingdestroyer

I'm 50/50 but I would be very ok moving TK - but I'm not convinced that will happen.

I still think they resign Seeler and move Walker/Staal. I also think they like Hathaway, he'd be this years ND but better. Not dying to see it happen but I could see happening.

to recap, my prediction (not saying I want this but...):

resign TK
resign Seeler
hold onto Hathaway

move Walker
move Laughton
move Staal
listen to Risto deals in the offseason

ND retires and replaces Rocky
(apparently it doesn't matter if you know anything about offense to be a coach)

I'm not saying it can't happen but i think there's less opportunity for deals to happen in general at the TDL, less teams making moves vs at the draft. I think teams will have more flexibility, have a better idea what their next moves should be and more teams willing to make deals once the season is over. hitting a home run could be something like moving Risto for something decent at the draft - I would be ecstatic - but I won't judge Danny for not moving everyone by the TDL if the deals aren't there yet.

i just don't think hitting a home run at the TDL is imperative, I'd hate to move someone now just to say we made TDL moves if there are bigger, better options once the season is over. I think if we are underwhelmed by moves made by the start of next season then we have more of a reason to be critical.
- anti-lame

The TDL seems to be more and more of a dud as the years go by. It used to be downright wild on trade deadline day, but so many GMs got taken that it seems many are gun shy these days. That and many teams up against the cap. It's hard to make hockey trades these days and most of those seem to happen at the draft/summer.

I agree. Expecting a home run is unrealistic and probably unfair. The Flyers aren't going to trade Konecny at the deadline. The biggest chip they really have is Walker. the return for him is going to depend on how many teams are bidding for him. Other dominoes such as Tanev and Hanifan have to fall first.
- MJL

I don’t even know what the hell a home run is suppose to be for a team like this.

i'd agree with MJL, i'm not going to judge Danny by what he does at the deadline alone. I think the TDL + Draft/moves in the offseason should be how he's judged.

I hope Risto gets moved, although EF made it seem like there were folks who talked to him that believed he'd be an off-season deal (if at all) as it's tougher to fit him in mid-season vs giving him a camp to properly slot in.
- anti-lame

I’d rather just keep risto than retain salary on his deal.

I know you’re not asking me directly, but I would kinda agree TK might not seem like a deadline deal. And if that’s not the case, you’re really handcuffed in your ability to hit “a home run” with Walker/Laughton/Seeler.

Unless, you see something like getting out from Ristolainen’s contract with value as a home run…that’s still maybe possible? I dunno
- Wingdestroyer

There is always the potential for a hockey trade that comes out of the blue but the Flyers just don't have home run chips to play with. At least not according to the scuttlebutt of whom they're looking to move.

Danny Briere doesn’t need a home run. Cutter Gauthier for Jamie Drysdale was the season’s home run.

I’d rather just keep risto than retain salary on his deal.
- Just5

I agree, although EF did say the Flyers are expecting more in return if they do retain - so we aren't giving him away, which is good to hear.

I agree, although EF did say the Flyers are expecting more in return if they do retain - so we aren't giving him away, which is good to hear.
- anti-lame

Well…I dont know I would give him away this summer if we didn’t have to retain. His contract is a negative value one imo. I wouldn’t care about getting anything back the cap relief is the prize

Danny Briere doesn’t need a home run. Cutter Gauthier for Jamie Drysdale was the season’s home run.
- roenick97

Your kidding...a potential 40 goal power forward for a 2nd pair dman I wouldn't call a home run. Did best he could by Flyers came out on the short end

Your kidding...a potential 40 goal power forward for a 2nd pair dman I wouldn't call a home run. Did best he could by Flyers came out on the short end
- hfc355

Obviously asinine to claims that was a home run. But let’s not label cutter a 40 goal scorer yet.

Your kidding...a potential 40 goal power forward for a 2nd pair dman I wouldn't call a home run. Did best he could by Flyers came out on the short end
- hfc355

Drysdale has the skill and talent to be a top pair defenseman. He is still very young. I agree though, not a home run. It's a sac fly at best right now.

Drysdale has the skill and talent to be a top pair defenseman. He is still very young. I agree though, not a home run. It's a sac fly at best right now.
- MJL

do you think he will ever reach that potential? love to hear your thoughts on the matter.

I myself do not. Just embrace that he will likely be a top 4 level dman.

Your kidding...a potential 40 goal power forward for a 2nd pair dman I wouldn't call a home run. Did best he could by Flyers came out on the short end
- hfc355

Not sure that trade can be judged yet based on the fact that Quitter has yet to skate one shift in the NHL. If he becomes a 40 goal power forward then yes, that would not be a win for the Flyers. To be honest, I really haven't been all that impressed with Drysdale to this point.

do you think he will ever reach that potential? love to hear your thoughts on the matter.

I myself do not. Just embrace that he will likely be a top 4 level dman.
- hello it's me 2050

I would cautiously bet against it. Usually, guys with very high end skill show that skill early, they just don't show it consistently. Other than elite lateral skating ability, I have not seen anything elite from JD. No great reading of plays, no great defensive anticipation, no great shot, no great instinct of when to pinch.

These things don't generally emerge from a vacuum. They tend to exist, and it is their blossoming that comes from time, not their budding itself.

I think that was a coup by Verbeek. It's not just the Flyers who sold high on CG. It was Anaheim too. Dysdale's injury issues and lack of exposure may have prevented him from being revealed as a good 2nd pairing guy rather than his reputed potential of an elite 1st pairing guy.

why is it unrealistic or unfair to expect a home run?
- hello it's me 2050

They don't have any assets to hit home runs. They're looking at 2nd round picks at best.

I would cautiously bet against it. Usually, guys with very high end skill show that skill early, they just don't show it consistently. Other than elite lateral skating ability, I have not seen anything elite from JD. No great reading of plays, no great defensive anticipation, no great shot, no great instinct of when to pinch.

These things don't generally emerge from a vacuum. They tend to exist, and it is their blossoming that comes from time, not their budding itself.

I think that was a coup by Verbeek. It's not just the Flyers who sold high on CG. It was Anaheim too. Dysdale's injury issues and lack of exposure may have prevented him from being revealed as a good 2nd pairing guy rather than his reputed potential of an elite 1st pairing guy.
- PT21

Drysdale is 21 years old and has only played 134 NHL games. He has missed a lot of time with injury and it's not easy to just come right back and jump into it. You obviously don't know much about the player because he absolutely showed that early as a 19 year old in 21/22 putting up 32 points in 81 games. The raw skills are obviously there. You're missing it.

Drysdale is 21 years old and has only played 134 NHL games. He has missed a lot of time with injury and it's not easy to just come right back and jump into it. You obviously don't know much about the player because he absolutely showed that early as a 19 year old in 21/22 putting up 32 points in 81 games. The raw skills are obviously there. You're missing it.
- MJL

tell us how much you know about the player cliff, as my guess you have rarely seen him play before he was traded. just like walker

They don't have any assets to hit home runs. They're looking at 2nd round picks at best.
- Pelle31Forever

sure they do. moving players out who should be moved is also a home run in a sense. acquiring a 1st rd pick isn't the only definition of a home run to me.

sure they do. moving players out who should be moved is also a home run in a sense. acquiring a 1st rd pick isn't the only definition of a home run to me.
- hello it's me 2050

So what's a home run to you?