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THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 12 @ 8:33 PM ET
I guess NHL pay for the travel šŸš‡ āœˆļø šŸš•
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Feb 12 @ 8:35 PM ET
Does anybody else think maybe Phildo at 850 or 1 million is really that bad of an option for the third lineā€¦.
sfischer
Washington Capitals
Joined: 12.04.2006

Feb 12 @ 8:45 PM ET
"The penalty came as a result of Greig firing a slap shot at the empty net from point-blank range as an exclamation point to the Sens winning over the Leafs for the third time in four games. "

This is the most ridiculous statement ever...The penalty was in no way shape or form the result of Greig firing a slap shot into an empty net. The penalty came as a result of O'Reilly losing all semblance of self-control and cross-checking Greig above the shoulders...

While it may have been poor form, what Grieg did was legal and within the context of the game. What O'Reilly did was not...and it was done with intent to injure. No other way top spin that. If he was that upset about it, why didn't he (and his teammates) address it during the previous 58+ minutes of the game by playing better and winning the game?

Dale Hunter got 21 games (into the next season) for a similar move on Pierre Turgeon after Turgeon scored the game-winning...in a playoff elimination game...if O'Reilly gets half that, he'll be getting off light.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 12 @ 8:49 PM ET
"The penalty came as a result of Greig firing a slap shot at the empty net from point-blank range as an exclamation point to the Sens winning over the Leafs for the third time in four games. "

This is the most ridiculous statement ever...The penalty was in no way shape or form the result of Greig firing a slap shot into an empty net. The penalty came as a result of O'Reilly losing all semblance of self-control and cross-checking Greig above the shoulders...

While it may have been poor form, what Grieg did was legal and within the context of the game. What O'Reilly did was not...and it was done with intent to injure. No other way top spin that. If he was that upset about it, why didn't he (and his teammates) address it during the previous 58+ minutes of the game by playing better and winning the game?

Dale Hunter got 21 games (into the next season) for a similar move on Pierre Turgeon after Turgeon scored the game-winning...in a playoff elimination game...if O'Reilly gets half that, he'll be getting off light.

- sfischer

O'tay
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:52 PM ET
"The penalty came as a result of Greig firing a slap shot at the empty net from point-blank range as an exclamation point to the Sens winning over the Leafs for the third time in four games. "

This is the most ridiculous statement ever...The penalty was in no way shape or form the result of Greig firing a slap shot into an empty net. The penalty came as a result of O'Reilly losing all semblance of self-control and cross-checking Greig above the shoulders...

While it may have been poor form, what Grieg did was legal and within the context of the game. What O'Reilly did was not...and it was done with intent to injure. No other way top spin that. If he was that upset about it, why didn't he (and his teammates) address it during the previous 58+ minutes of the game by playing better and winning the game?

Dale Hunter got 21 games (into the next season) for a similar move on Pierre Turgeon after Turgeon scored the game-winning...in a playoff elimination game...if O'Reilly gets half that, he'll be getting off light.

- sfischer


If youā€™re going to act like a know it all you should try and comment about the correct player.

He also went for the shoulder, it unfortunately hit the shoulder pad but immediately slid up the shoulder pad into the guys head, and then Ottawa started the scrap.

The end.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:57 PM ET
The Matthews' example isn't a great comparison. They were trading shots and the play was on going.

Perrron is the better comparable, lots of similarities. I think 6 games is the end result. But league discipline is a joke so who knows.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:07 PM ET
The Matthews' example isn't a great comparison. They were trading shots and the play was on going.

Perrron is the better comparable, lots of similarities. I think 6 games is the end result. But league discipline is a joke so who knows.

- david22


There's no consistency so it's a fools game to pick your favourite comparable.
Perron's circumstances were similar but it was much more violent contact. 6 games.

Chaisson crosscheck on Vesey after the whistle might be a good example. 1 game.

It's (frank)ed trying to guess. He'll get 5-6. Leafs will appeal. Everyone will obsess about it all and the Leafs will continue to make the world go round.

Is anything else happening in other NHL markets?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:16 PM ET
Kraken losing again.

If Muzzin was 1st, Durzi and Grundstrom ...hypothetically would we be cool with a 1st, Neimela, and something for Larsson?
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:17 PM ET
League is gonna roll a D12 to determine the suspension length.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:28 PM ET
League is gonna roll a D12 to determine the suspension length.
- GalacticStone


I just rolled one online and it came up with 6 the first 2 times but on the 6th roll it finally came up as 1
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Feb 12 @ 9:29 PM ET
Kraken losing again.

If Muzzin was 1st, Durzi and Grundstrom ...hypothetically would we be cool with a 1st, Neimela, and something for Larsson?

- The Law


Pretty spendy...

Try and make it bigger and get a F back also that really helps bottom 6 and pushes RR out ā€¦even with Kampf & Jarncock coming back -
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Feb 12 @ 9:30 PM ET
I just rolled one online and it came up with 6 the first 2 times but on the 6th roll it finally came up as 1
- Dozzer



Magic 8 ball more reliableā€¦
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:36 PM ET
The trolls are so activated about Rielly lol
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:38 PM ET
Kraken losing again.

If Muzzin was 1st, Durzi and Grundstrom ...hypothetically would we be cool with a 1st, Neimela, and something for Larsson?

- The Law


How would they fit him in cap wise? I like his size, game, and that heā€™s a rightie, but even if they could get 50% retained how do they fit in $2 million?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:38 PM ET
The trolls are so activated about Rielly lol
- Zezel


Oh?

Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:38 PM ET
O'tay
- dmnted

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:39 PM ET
Magic 8 ball more reliableā€¦
- dozerD10


That should speed up the answer
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
Kraken losing again.

If Muzzin was 1st, Durzi and Grundstrom ...hypothetically would we be cool with a 1st, Neimela, and something for Larsson?

- The Law

No way Jose

Niemela is off limits
Should keep Lilā€™gren too

Almost every team is looking for a RHD
Toughest position to find
sokosteve
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gwangyang
Joined: 06.24.2018

Feb 12 @ 9:46 PM ET
Doesn't matter what he gets.

Maybe 2 for the crosscheck and 4 for being stupid?

Cannot put yourself and your team in that position. Plenty of ways to be tough without weaponizing your equipment, regardless of shoulder to chin or direct hit.

Wonder if we could bring Klingberg back for the powerplay. He's probably OK now.
sokosteve
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gwangyang
Joined: 06.24.2018

Feb 12 @ 9:46 PM ET
"The penalty came as a result of Greig firing a slap shot at the empty net from point-blank range as an exclamation point to the Sens winning over the Leafs for the third time in four games. "

This is the most ridiculous statement ever...The penalty was in no way shape or form the result of Greig firing a slap shot into an empty net. The penalty came as a result of O'Reilly losing all semblance of self-control and cross-checking Greig above the shoulders...

While it may have been poor form, what Grieg did was legal and within the context of the game. What O'Reilly did was not...and it was done with intent to injure. No other way top spin that. If he was that upset about it, why didn't he (and his teammates) address it during the previous 58+ minutes of the game by playing better and winning the game?

Dale Hunter got 21 games (into the next season) for a similar move on Pierre Turgeon after Turgeon scored the game-winning...in a playoff elimination game...if O'Reilly gets half that, he'll be getting off light.

- sfischer


My gawd. My freaking gawd. Get off the internet.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:50 PM ET
Doesn't matter what he gets.

Maybe 2 for the crosscheck and 4 for being stupid?

Cannot put yourself and your team in that position. Plenty of ways to be tough without weaponizing your equipment, regardless of shoulder to chin or direct hit.

Wonder if we could bring Klingberg back for the powerplay. He's probably OK now.

- sokosteve


Even if he was they couldnā€™t pull it off cap wise
[email protected]
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Hobe Sound, FL
Joined: 09.28.2021

Feb 12 @ 9:53 PM ET
5 Games you can count on it!
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:59 PM ET
There's no consistency so it's a fools game to pick your favourite comparable.
Perron's circumstances were similar but it was much more violent contact. 6 games.

Chaisson crosscheck on Vesey after the whistle might be a good example. 1 game.

It's (frank)ed trying to guess. He'll get 5-6. Leafs will appeal. Everyone will obsess about it all and the Leafs will continue to make the world go round.

Is anything else happening in other NHL markets?

- The Law


Love the avatar. Makes me laugh every time.

As far as the suspension goes, Iā€™m not a fan of either team. However, I agree with the statement that the consistency in the DoPS is sorely lacking.
Yes, it was Douchebag move for the slapper into the net, but laying a cross heck on the guy is NEVER a good thing. I also agree he may have been aiming for the shoulder to send a message, butā€¦.whatever his intent, his check rode up the shoulder, and into his jaw. He should know better. If it was me in DoPS, it would have been 3. Reilly doesnā€™t have a history of this , so that must factor into the punishment.

Hereā€™s my real issue: Get rid of the Fā€™ing instigator penalty, and escalating fines/suspensions. He could then have dropped the gloves, and the boys will have settled it, the way hockey used to be. The way it is now, invites this behavior, as there is almost no outlet for players to police themselves. So weasel players get away with cheap shots, etc. without answering for it. That sucks! Answer for your sh!t, and man up, or get your ass a good beatdown.

Solves many of these issues, creates some REAL rivalries, and makes for a much more compelling, and interesting game. No one stays in on a Friday or Saturday evening for a game anymore. The NHL is losing its core, to try and gain the casual fan. Those casuals arenā€™t paying the bills!

Bring back hockey the way it should be, and this would never have happened!
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Feb 12 @ 10:18 PM ET
Love the avatar. Makes me laugh every time.

As far as the suspension goes, Iā€™m not a fan of either team. However, I agree with the statement that the consistency in the DoPS is sorely lacking.
Yes, it was Douchebag move for the slapper into the net, but laying a cross heck on the guy is NEVER a good thing. I also agree he may have been aiming for the shoulder to send a message, butā€¦.whatever his intent, his check rode up the shoulder, and into his jaw. He should know better. If it was me in DoPS, it would have been 3. Reilly doesnā€™t have a history of this , so that must factor into the punishment.

Hereā€™s my real issue: Get rid of the Fā€™ing instigator penalty, and escalating fines/suspensions. He could then have dropped the gloves, and the boys will have settled it, the way hockey used to be. The way it is now, invites this behavior, as there is almost no outlet for players to police themselves. So weasel players get away with cheap shots, etc. without answering for it. That sucks! Answer for your sh!t, and man up, or get your ass a good beatdown.

Solves many of these issues, creates some REAL rivalries, and makes for a much more compelling, and interesting game. No one stays in on a Friday or Saturday evening for a game anymore. The NHL is losing its core, to try and gain the casual fan. Those casuals arenā€™t paying the bills!

Bring back hockey the way it should be, and this would never have happened!

- Hokeeguy9


You could pretty much say this for regular, everyday life, just substitute "Lawyer saturation" with Instigator Rule.

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:40 PM ET
How would they fit him in cap wise? I like his size, game, and that heā€™s a rightie, but even if they could get 50% retained how do they fit in $2 million?
- Dozzer


Leafs have ~4+M in cap space once the roster shakes out b/c they're carrying so many (26) bodies.

You're going to have to trust me b/c people are probably sick of me doing the math.
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